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Caroline on her way back

CTtoSanDiego said:
My one problem with her is that she constantly positions herself several feet behind the 3 point line while "spotting up"... thus making many of her 3 pt attempts longer than they need to be. A small thing, maybe, given the myriad ways she has shown us she can score.
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With all due respect I say if she can make them from there to take them from there. Extend the defense and if not comfortable a look inside to a player that may be open for a easy shot. Not many teams are going to defend at that level and a couple from that distance changes the dynamics of the game.
I would never ask a player to take a shot according to the lines on the floor other than the foul line. If your comfortable and open put it up.
We have seen that with Azzi this year with her mid range and to the rim presence where she was labeled long range. So welcomed.
 
Ducharme spent the summer rehabbing her hip with no practice and no shooting. Ducharme proved her shooting/scoring last year as a freshman when she was the primary scorer on a team of mostly seniors for a chink of the year, until the effects of her head injury limited her minutes.
Two years ago some had already written Griffin off. Let's have some patience with Ducharme. She is well worth it.
 
I have stated it in multiple other threads that discuss Caroline's current status, the fact that she wears kinesio tape on the back of her neck is an indication that she is still not 100%. I am looking forward to the day when she is on the court for multiple games (or practices) when the tape is off. Then her game will become what most of us here want to see.
 
Woof 101 said:
With all due respect I say if she can make them from there to take them from there. Extend the defense and if not comfortable a look inside to a player that may be open for a easy shot. Not many teams are going to defend at that level and a couple from that distance changes the dynamics of the game.
I would never ask a player to take a shot according to the lines on the floor other than the foul line. If your comfortable and open put it up.
We have seen that with Azzi this year with her mid range and to the rim presence where she was labeled long range. So welcomed.
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The thing is Caroline has NOT been making them from there... not last year and not so far this year (very small sample). Azzi is rarely more than a foot behind the line when she shoots a 3 pointer..... I agree about pull up mid range shots... and of course about going to the rim
 
CTtoSanDiego said:
She is not in H.S. anymore. My point is not whether she can hit from far out, but that she would make more from a few feet closer, as would most anyone.. even Steph Curry!
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I think most of us are on the same page here. If you shoot from a yard behind the line and you could have taken the shot at the line, then obviously closer is better and you should have stepped closer. The point for the longer shot is sometimes you are not open at the line but are a few feet behind it. The defense has to extend that much farther to cover it.

Now many if not most three point shooters are not good enough that a shot several feet behind the line is still a high enough percentage shot to take. Clark at Iowa shoots way behind the line consistently, largely because defenses won't come out that far to guide her. I am pretty sure Azzi has that ability as well, probably Paige, and maybe with Caroline. Her HS career suggests she can, but her first year 3pt percentage was disappointing. I think she is a much better long-range threat than she showed last year, particularly since she won a few 3pt shooting contests.

If she is not better than a 30% shooter from the line measured over a significant period, then she probably has no business taking shots longer than that. If on the other hand she appears to be upper 30's or lower 40's from the line, then some shots from deeper might be good for her.
 
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RockyMTblue2 said:
She's an All American in waiting. We just have to get the injury bug to fly off and freeze in a winter storm.
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Folks, we are only going to get very limited number of All Americans, no matter how good we are. For example this year, absent injuries, AA locks are Clark, Boston, Morrow and take your pick from Stanford. That doesn't even get to the likely 2nd team AA's such as Siegrist (sp?).

If we get one, I think we know who that would be. If we get a 2nd and or 3rd team AA then Liya or Lou would come before Caroline and If things continue the way they are, then Nika would be a strong candidate for 3rd team. Next year won't be any easier, with our AA candidate line being led by Paige, Azzi, Liya, Nika. Caroline's strength on the court is scoring and next year I would say that our top two scorers will be PB and .

This is in NO WAY meant to downgrade Caroline, but rather to recognize the real world of AA selections. There are only a limited number of AA spots and the good ole days when UCONN absolutely dominated the sport are long gone. Agreeing that Caroline is (or can be) an outstanding player just not an All American is hardly a knock on her-none of the other 99.99% of WCBB D-1 players will be AA's this year or next year either
 
HuskyNan said:
There were some Caroline related things I liked about yesterday’s game.

I liked that:
  • Geno let her play for 23 minutes to help her get back into the game flow
  • Caroline was battling for rebounds, not shying away from contact. She had two offensive rebounds! With Dorka and Ice out, she needs to continue playing big
  • She didn’t hesitate to shoot. No, the shots aren’t necessarily falling yet but she’s showing a scoring mentality
  • She had 1 TO in 22 minutes. Pretty good for a kid with limited playing time
I saw progress. Knowing Caroline’s work ethic, it’s just a matter of time before she’s fully back
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Caroline had surgery. She's done well returning to her former form. She'll once again lead the Huskies. This Iowa game isn't over. Fudd isn't over, Lou isn't over. Long season to GROW into.
 
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Bills Fan said:
Folks, we are only going to get very limited number of All Americans, no matter how good we are. For example this year, absent injuries, AA locks are Clark, Boston, Morrow and take your pick from Stanford. That doesn't even get to the likely 2nd team AA's such as Siegrist (sp?).

If we get one, I think we know who that would be. If we get a 2nd and or 3rd team AA then Liya or Lou would come before Caroline and If things continue the way they are, then Nika would be a strong candidate for 3rd team. Next year won't be any easier, with our AA candidate line being led by Paige, Azzi, Liya, Nika. Caroline's strength on the court is scoring and next year I would say that our top two scorers will be PB and Azzi Fudd.

This is in NO WAY meant to downgrade Caroline, but rather to recognize the real world of AA selections. There are only a limited number of AA spots and the good ole days when UCONN absolutely dominated the sport are long gone. Agreeing that Caroline is (or can be) an outstanding player just not an All American is hardly a knock on her-none of the other 99.99% of WCBB D-1 players will be AA's this year or next year either
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You are aware the WBCA has a 10 person team right? So what most us are referring to is either the AP 5 person 1st team or 10 person WBCA team. Link is below. Also, I am Not so certain Morrow will be making the AP team. Only Clark and Boston are locks as Haley Jones is not having a great start to the season.
wbca.org

WBCA Coaches' All-America

The WBCA Coaches' All-America program honors the 10 best women's or girls' basketball players on each membership level (NCAA Division I, NCAA Division II, NCAA Division III, NAIA, two-year college and high school) as determined by member coaches each year. The WBCA NCAA DI Coaches' All-America...
wbca.org wbca.org
 
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Caroline can safely play several positions, she is position less but vital going forward. Aren't we Luckey. Griffin has also become interchangeable. These two types of players are the future of basketball in my opinion.
 
She's back , finally. At the start of the game she made a 2 point lay-up and I was happy. Then , when Caroline made her first 3 pointer , I jumped up and clapped my hands, finally. She played a great game like games last year and you could see it in her face after each score that she was finally helping her team win. Yes Caroline, you did that and many,many more games ahead. You deserve the best and I pray you won't have anymore setbacks. GO CAROLINE!!! GO HUSKIES!!!
 
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hoophuskee said:
No she is not. She is a better Offensive Player. Not better defensively. Not close.
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Well, Geno disagrees with you. He made a negative comment about Aubrey's defense last press conference. And I believe that's why he took her out fourth quarter.

I remember a game in 2020, her freshman year. There were no fans in the stands, so you could hear the coaches quite clearly. Geno yelled at Aubrey frequently for being out of position. I remember thinking "how could she concentrate with the coach constantly yelling at her."
 
Aluminny69 said:
Well, Geno disagrees with you. He made a negative comment about Aubrey's defense last press conference. And I believe that's why he took her out fourth quarter.

I remember a game in 2020, her freshman year. There were no fans in the stands, so you could hear the coaches quite clearly. Geno yelled at Aubrey frequently for being out of position. I remember thinking "how could she concentrate with the coach constantly yelling at her."
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HE does? HE said Ducharme is the better defensive player? You have the quote?

You are also bringing up frosh year? Or now? I also remember though in the past Geno putting in Aubrey because he said when she comes in she has an impact. And back then she was never much of a scorer.

But we are talking this year, right?
 
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I like Caroline's defense. She struggles to keep up with quick guards but she is smart as heck and well coached. You don't see her making stupid errors and her decision making is both quick and good. All plus factors in her game. Often she doesn't block a shot but she makes it more difficult. She also is a solid TEAM defender. Recognizing and covering for others quickly.
 
HuskyNan said:
Can’t we just be happy Caroline had a good game?
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I am. My post on the post game reflected that. And when I say Ducharme is a greater offensive player - that certainly is darn happy. I'm also loving Griffin's game. So much so she could be a WNBA player. Her Defense is tremendous.

Griffin and Ducharme's games are super but for different reasons.

Maybe the poster shouldn't have pitted them against each other.
 
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