Carlton, Whaley, Vital

[Huskygrad88]

Next year a lineup of Adams, Gilbert, Wilson, Whaley, and Carlton with Vital as the 6th man has a lot of potential. But then again, Ollie has had talent in the past and can't do anything with it..

I am not an Ollie apologist nor a defender of his coaching, nor a fan of their current offense, etc. However, does anyone think before they write anymore? How can you say that a coach, regardless of his abilities, who has WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, "has had talent in the past and can't do anything with it"??? Is there somehow more you could do than win a NC?

Sorry Kodiak for missing your post before mine...not stealing your point

 

[Kembacity]

I don't know how anyone who roots for this team could type the sentence "I hope Jalen is gone". Honestly, I don't.

I agree that the young nucleus looks good enough to build something with, but we only have one single proven scorer. I'm selfishly hoping he stays for next year...

I also don't know how anyone who roots for this team can say they hope Anderson is gone next year, since... you know, it's his last year of eligibility so it's not a conversation to have ever

 

[Rocktheworld]

In order to improve this 10-9 team for next year, I hope our best player, the only one who has an high-end talent, leaves.
^That is a hot garbage take.

This team needs a massive makeover/reinforcements. Rooting for Jalen Adams to leave is not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 50th step to that process.

Not talking about next year, bud. You recognize that a makeover is in order; well those don't come to fruition over one off-season.

You’re right it’s a garbage take. You invented it in your head.

I also don't know how anyone who roots for this team can say they hope Anderson is gone next year, since... you know, it's his last year of eligibility so it's not a conversation to have ever

I said “along with” knowing that Anderson is gone.

 

[Matrim55]

Anyone care to guess what our record would be without him this year?

2-17

 

[Rocktheworld]

Vital? Jesus

I think another common failed perception of my post is that I think that Vital is going to become some great scorer and lead guard. I simply put him in the nucleus of the team. He will be an important ball handler going forward for us, like it or not. And if he cleans up his efficiency with experience and better shot selection, 12/5/5 shouldn’t be out of the question for him, and that’s a solid piece.

 

[KodiacKemba]

I am not an

Sorry Kodiak for missing your post before mine...not stealing your point

Sorry Kodiak for missing your post before mine...not stealing your point

You gotta be quicker than that lol

 

[RayIsTheGOAT]

Not talking about next year, bud. You recognize that a makeover is in order; well those don't come to fruition over one off-season.

You’re right it’s a garbage take. You invented it in your head.

Wait wait wait.

So if a makeover doesn't happen in one season (which it can), then what harm will it do keeping Adams for one more year before he graduates?

The answer is it won't do harm, because that's moronic. He is the only reason we have a winning record. He would make a great pairing with another ball handling PG (Gilbert, Akinjo)

It's not like he would be stunting the growth of Gilbert and Akinjo. He would do just the opposite. Adams, Gilbert, Akinjo competing with each other in practice every day and learning how to play with each other does many good things for the future of UConn basketball.

 

[jorge34]

Jalen is a magnificentbasketball player. But his attitude is a problem and affects the team

And he really hasn't gotten better since his freshman year. and quite possibly, his outside shooting has regressed

 

[KodiacKemba]

And he really hasn't gotten better since his freshman year. and quite possibly, his outside shooting has regressed

The last 5 games he’s been shooting a lot better from 3 from pull up 2’s and foul shooting

 

[joober jones]

Wake up, Jalen is not good for this program.

Even if you think he's not, we need a point guard who can give us more than 6 games per season. If you think it's bad now, imagine next season with Gilbert out again and Vital running the point. That's the recipe for a 25 loss season.

 

[Rocktheworld]

It's not like he would be stunting the growth of Gilbert and Akinjo. He would do just the opposite. Adams, Gilbert, Akinjo competing with each other in practice every day and learning how to play with each other does many good things for the future of UConn basketball.

Your post boils down to this point.

Practicing amongst each other I believe is a highly overrated concept. What matters is in-game reps and experience. And within games, Jalen dominating the ball could absolutely potentially stunt AG’s development. And I think it’s been demonstrated that he does not really have the leadership qualities or potential tutelage which would benefit the younger players. He’s raw athleticism and skill; other players don’t benefit in their development through that.

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

Could be a good nucleus going forward. I hope Jalen is gone along with Larrier and Anderson who are both liabilities at this point (the latter much more so). Hand the reins over to AG and Vital, plug in a couple shooters, and we may have something in a couple years

Not sure how man more "couple years" we have, but that freshman pair and their potential is all the positive we have right now.

Was really impressed by some of the things Carlton was doing today. How many freshmen go for 13/9 (6 offensive), 2 assists, a steal, and a block, shooting 50% from the floor and 3/3 from the line, with no turnovers, against the clear cut #1 team in the country?

tough to put the reins in AG who has had shoulder issues the last 3 years

 

[intlzncster]

Carlton could be great with some work in the weight room and some coaching.

He needs this coaching change more than anyone.

There's a number of guys on the team with something to work with. If they can get good coaching, it could be a nice nucleus.

Need a star or two though.

 

[intlzncster]

Anyone care to guess what our record would be without him this year?

No wins. 0-19. And I'm not being sarcastic.

 

[intlzncster]

Really I just want to rip the band-aid off and move on with the pieces we will have for the next 2-3 years.

It's nothing against Jalen or his game. I see a lot of people seem to have perceived that statement in that way.

I would say this, can you imagine how good Jalen would be with proper coaching. I'm willing to bet his attitude (as people seem to harp on) would be better as well. And the kids around him would be better, which would help him even more.

He's the type of kid who could absolutely thrive in the right offense. Run things smoothly all game, and take over only when necessary.

 

[LIUCHusky]

Carlton could be great with some work in the weight room and some coaching.

He needs this coaching change more than anyone.

if anyone has improved this year it is Carlton. I think any fair minded person has to give a lot of credit for that improvement to the coaching staff. Agreed he needs a ton of work in the weight room.

 

[intlzncster]

And he really hasn't gotten better since his freshman year. and quite possibly, his outside shooting has regressed

It's hard to shoot well when you're the only guy the other team has to guard.

 

[Showballot]

I don't know how anyone who roots for this team could type the sentence "I hope Jalen is gone". Honestly, I don't.

I agree that the young nucleus looks good enough to build something with, but we only have one single proven scorer. I'm selfishly hoping he stays for next year...

If Larrier comes back and works on his game , does he slide into the 1st round?

 

[Matrim55]

No wins. 0-19. And I'm not being sarcastic.

We won the first game of the year without him. I'm giving them that and the Coppin State game.

2-17.

 

[AdamaNation]

I

Wait wait wait.

So if a makeover doesn't happen in one season (which it can), then what harm will it do keeping Adams for one more year before he graduates?

The answer is it won't do harm, because that's moronic. He is the only reason we have a winning record. He would make a great pairing with another ball handling PG (Gilbert, Akinjo)

It's not like he would be stunting the growth of Gilbert and Akinjo. He would do just the opposite. Adams, Gilbert, Akinjo competing with each other in practice every day and learning how to play with each other does many good things for the future of UConn basketball.

If Gilbert can play

 

[intlzncster]

We won the first game of the year without him. I'm giving them that and the Coppin State game.

2-17.

Hahaha fair. My mistake. Coppin's a tough call. They are a 1-19 ball club. Toss up. But I could go with 2-17.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I would say this, can you imagine how good Jalen would be with proper coaching. I'm willing to bet his attitude (as people seem to harp on) would be better as well. And the kids around him would be better, which would help him even more.

He's the type of kid who could absolutely thrive in the right offense. Run things smoothly all game, and take over only when necessary.

I completely agree. Part of my exchange with Fishy was about, given that KO seems likely to return next season, if Jalen has a good reason to stay another year anyway

 

[Doctor Hoop]

If Larrier comes back and works on his game , does he slide into the 1st round?

Not sure if this is serious.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Could be a good nucleus going forward. I hope Jalen is gone along with Larrier and Anderson who are both liabilities at this point (the latter much more so). Hand the reins over to AG and Vital, plug in a couple shooters, and we may have something in a couple years

Not sure how man more "couple years" we have, but that freshman pair and their potential is all the positive we have right now.

Was really impressed by some of the things Carlton was doing today. How many freshmen go for 13/9 (6 offensive), 2 assists, a steal, and a block, shooting 50% from the floor and 3/3 from the line, with no turnovers, against the clear cut #1 team in the country?

my only concern or thoughts on Jalen is that he is basically the same player today as he was his freshman season. he still looks surprised that his team isn't keeping up and doesn't have that "i'll put the team on my back" mentality that other Uconn greats have shown.

he's a talented player no doubt. I wonder how he would have transformed under calhoun's guidance?

 

[Stinger92860]

I think another common failed perception of my post is that I think that Vital is going to become some great scorer and lead guard. I simply put him in the nucleus of the team. He will be an important ball handler going forward for us, like it or not. And if he cleans up his efficiency with experience and better shot selection, 12/5/5 shouldn’t be out of the question for him, and that’s a solid piece.

He can't be a key ball handler. That's not a strength for him. If he is playing on the ball, his +/- goes down.

 

[blackbird]

2-17

Try 0-19

 

[msgordon]

nucleus of carlton whaley and vital? god thats depressing

 

[ASweet3781]

"I hope Jalen and Larrier gone...."

We have the DUMBEST fans. Truly.

Insane roster upheavel and lack of getting a nucleus playing together for more than a year has all but destroyed our program but yes let's hope 2 of our only talented offensive players are GONE.

"Hand over the reigns to AG..."

Oh yeah, the same AG who has suffered 3 shoulder injuries and hasn't played more than 10 games the last 2 seasons?

 

[Matrim55]

Try 0-19

We literally won a game without Jalen this year.

 

[ccsuphanner]

I also don't know how anyone who roots for this team can say they hope Anderson is gone next year, since... you know, it's his last year of eligibility so it's not a conversation to have ever

Didn't read thread. Amazing post.