Cardoso to transfer[merged thread]

[bluedevil]

hmmm.... maybe there is something there with no other players welcoming her on social media, especially these days where they spend half the day on social media.

As The World Turns..lol...imagine a group of girls/women not inviting someone into their club. Has that ever happened?

 

[donalddoowop]

If Geno can get a 6’7” post that was ranked #5 coming out of high school and keep her for 4 years, why are we worrying about future recruits? A bird in the hand....

Recruits who have committed but not yet signed, such as Brady. She is the only one I wonder about.

 

[jaundicedeye]

The ONLY concern I have is about chemistry. It was reported that when Juhasz chose UCONN, only 2 players congratulated and welcomed her in IG - Anna and Nika. I think Saylor did shortly thereafter. I have no idea why the other players were less than enthusiastic (as it appeared - I'm not speaking factually as I have no inside knowledge) - there are numerous possible reasons - they were surprised it happened so fast, maybe some post players saw it as not necessary (in their eyes), etc.

But it was odd that on a team that is so "social-media" focused, no one besides our 2 foreign players welcomed her. I'm encouraged to see more players following Cardoso and vice versa.

EricLA, why would you even want to go there? In my estimation it is specious speculation that is way premature and serves no good purpose. You are essentially throwing shade on those that didn't post on Instagram.

 

[baggerbob]

The ONLY concern I have is about chemistry. It was reported that when Juhasz chose UCONN, only 2 players congratulated and welcomed her in IG - Anna and Nika. I think Saylor did shortly thereafter. I have no idea why the other players were less than enthusiastic (as it appeared - I'm not speaking factually as I have no inside knowledge) - there are numerous possible reasons - they were surprised it happened so fast, maybe some post players saw it as not necessary (in their eyes), etc.

But it was odd that on a team that is so "social-media" focused, no one besides our 2 foreign players welcomed her. I'm encouraged to see more players following Cardoso and vice versa.

Having said that about the chemistry, I am, and have always been, of the opinion that more is better. More talent, more size, more skill, more options. If she comes, it will be a HUGE roster filled with talented players. The best players who practice hard and perform the best in games will get the most PT, especially in big games. If anyone can't "get over the hump" to earn the PT they want or think they deserve, then they will have options.

I'm not advocating that anyone will, or should, leave. However, on a team with so much talent at so many positions, it's a reality. I hope everyone has, and continues, to buy in to the "team first" concept. It's all about winning NC's at UCONN (as well as developing student-athletes in to great people and great players), so anything that Geno can do to make that more likely, I'm 100% behind.

My last thought - UCONN does not "need" Cardoso to offset Betts. We have 6'5" Deberry. Brady is 6'3"-6'4", and much stronger. 2" on Deberry is not a game changer. Obviously it will depend how they develop. But I somehow get the impression that some feel Stanford will be unbeatable with Betts. How did that work out for Baylor and Griner?

Having said that, 6'7" does not grow on trees. It's very uncommon, especially for that 6'7" player to be mobile, relatively athletic, have good hands, and already have good shot blocking instincts (not the tomahawk chop), as well as the ability to keep the ball high when receiving it and not bringing it down so it can be stripped. I would be over the moon if we land her.

Kamilla can play the pick and roll well, Tiana who led the nation in assists, got a lot of them feeding Kamilla. Paige would have a field day with that play, try to pick your poison on the screen.

 

[Heytherego]

The ONLY concern I have is about chemistry. It was reported that when Juhasz chose UCONN, only 2 players congratulated and welcomed her in IG - Anna and Nika. I think Saylor did shortly thereafter. I have no idea why the other players were less than enthusiastic (as it appeared - I'm not speaking factually as I have no inside knowledge) - there are numerous possible reasons - they were surprised it happened so fast, maybe some post players saw it as not necessary (in their eyes), etc.

That’s ridiculous. Not everything goes on social media. They could have easily sent her a message or text and said congrats whatever...privately. No one knows what actually goes on behind closed doors, so it’s totally not fair to make an assumption that they aren’t enthusiastic or feel any type of way based on no public reaction.

 

[jaundicedeye]

hmmm.... maybe there is something there with no other players welcoming her on social media, especially these days where they spend half the day on social media.

Not cool to speculate like that. If you want drama there are plenty of daytime soaps to follow.

 

[jaundicedeye]

That’s ridiculous. Not everything goes on social media. They could have easily sent her a message or text and said congrats whatever...privately. No one knows what actually goes on behind closed doors, so it’s totally not fair to make an assumption that they aren’t enthusiastic or feel any type of way based on no public reaction.

Exactly! Thank you.

 

[HuskyNan]

That’s ridiculous. Not everything goes on social media. They could have easily sent her a message or text and said congrats whatever...privately. No one knows what actually goes on behind closed doors, so it’s totally not fair to make an assumption that they aren’t enthusiastic or feel any type of way based on no public reaction.

It’s silly time on Boneyard. Sounds like middle school

“Mary didn’t invite Sally to sit with her at lunch today!”
”Wow, are they fighting?”
”They must be. It probably has something to do with her boyfriend”
”Sally is trying to steal Mary’s boyfriend? I have to tell Jane!”

It’s been a long time since middle school. I don’t miss it one bit

 

[nuna23]

guys we want her to win but don't forgot that de have deberry ....if she came to uconn or not...we could win it alll ....and Im shore she will not came to uconn

 

[Bills Fan]

Is she comes (and stays 3 years), we will not need to worry too much about big recruits for a year or three.

Actually, wherever she goes, she will be like a Freshman with 4 years of eligibility due to the NCAA's last year doesn't count as a year of eligibility.
Edit: Sorry after I posted this I saw that it had already been noted.

 

[tower1]

hmmm.... maybe there is something there with no other players welcoming her on social media, especially these days where they spend half the day on social media.

Stop all this trash ! You have no idea what they are doing or saying. You trying to start up gossip
?

 

[uconnfan68]

It’s silly time on Boneyard. Sounds like middle school

“Mary didn’t invite Sally to sit with her at lunch today!”
”Wow, are they fighting?”
”They must be. It probably has something to do with her boyfriend”
”Sally is trying to steal Mary’s boyfriend? I have to tell Jane!”

It’s been a long time since middle school. I don’t miss it one bit

My middle school was nun or this and nun of that.

 

[Geew1992]

Stop all this trash ! You have no idea what thery are doing or saying. You trying to start up ?

I'm telling you............ People love the conspiracy theory.

 

[Argonaut]

The ONLY concern I have is about chemistry. It was reported that when Juhasz chose UCONN, only 2 players congratulated and welcomed her in IG - Anna and Nika. I think Saylor did shortly thereafter. I have no idea why the other players were less than enthusiastic (as it appeared - I'm not speaking factually as I have no inside knowledge) - there are numerous possible reasons - they were surprised it happened so fast, maybe some post players saw it as not necessary (in their eyes), etc.

But it was odd that on a team that is so "social-media" focused, no one besides our 2 foreign players welcomed her. I'm encouraged to see more players following Cardoso and vice versa.

You also have to keep in mind that Nika and Anna are probably the only ones who actually know Dorka — and that’s from playing before they came to the States. There haven’t been any visits and she’s had no chance to get to know the team. When freshmen sign as seniors, they’ve spent quite a bit of time on campus, most have had a couple days to get to know the team, and many already know each other through AAU, EYBL, and/or USAB. I don’t recall seeing a lot of social media hoopla when Anna signed after the season ended and without meeting the team. Similar situation.

Nothing to see here.

 

[triaddukefan]

Women's College Hoops is starting to look like the NBA teams. All the good players on a handful of teams.

Wouldn't surprise me if Cardosa stays in the ACC.. Either Louisville or Duke.

May God have mercy on the liquor stores and bakeries in Greensboro if that happens.... cause I surely won't.

 

[UcMiami]

This team is already crowded at the SG/Wing/SF position and at the PF position. It is less crowded at PG and Post. In reality:
PG - Paige, Nika
Center - Olivia, Piath
SG/Wing/SF - Evina, Christyn, Aubrey, Mir, Autumn, Saylor, Azzi, Caroline
PF - Dorka, Aaliyah, Amari

SG/Wing/SF is listed with the three typical names for two positions on the floor in a classic alignment. We all know that teams use 'small' and 'big' lineups, sometimes play '5 out' or '4 out' and may shift players between classically designed alignment depending on needs or other players on the floor with them. The two more consistent needs are 'primary ball handler' (PG) and 'post defender' (Center) and Uconn has two very capable PGs and one very capable Center and one developmental prospect. They have others who can handle those roles in emergencies, but are better at the positions I listed. Secondary listings would be:

PG - Evina, Christyn (maybe one of the freshman as well, but not likely next year)
Center - Aaliyah, Dorka, (Amira?)
PF - Aubrey, (Mir?)
SG/Wing/SF - Paige, Dorka

If Cardosa decided to come to Uconn, she would add a player to the Center position which is actually the weakest natural roster spot on the team with a single developed player. I like Piath a lot but feel she is at least a year away from being ready, and while the current roster has some valuable players who can cover in an emergency, it is a weakness. And it is a specific weakness in the most important games each year - those against other top 10 teams that have true centers on their rosters.

No one is 'complaining' about the plethora of SG/Wing/SF players, everyone was excited when we got another PF as a transfer creating another deep position, not sure what is so different about adding a true center if it does happen.

 

[Longtime fan]

WOW.

Is she the 7 footer from Brazil? She is a soon-to-be dominant center. Probably we'll see her at Baylor or S. Carolina.

 

[Longtime fan]

This team is already crowded at the SG/Wing/SF position and at the PF position. It is less crowded at PG and Post. In reality:
PG - Paige, Nika
Center - Olivia, Piath
SG/Wing/SF - Evina, Christyn, Aubrey, Mir, Autumn, Saylor, Azzi, Caroline
PF - Dorka, Aaliyah, Amari

SG/Wing/SF is listed with the three typical names for two positions on the floor in a classic alignment. We all know that teams use 'small' and 'big' lineups, sometimes play '5 out' or '4 out' and may shift players between classically designed alignment depending on needs or other players on the floor with them. The two more consistent needs are 'primary ball handler' (PG) and 'post defender' (Center) and Uconn has two very capable PGs and one very capable Center and one developmental prospect. They have others who can handle those roles in emergencies, but are better at the positions I listed. Secondary listings would be:

PG - Evina, Christyn (maybe one of the freshman as well, but not likely next year)
Center - Aaliyah, Dorka, (Amira?)
PF - Aubrey, (Mir?)
SG/Wing/SF - Paige, Dorka

If Cardosa decided to come to Uconn, she would add a player to the Center position which is actually the weakest natural roster spot on the team with a single developed player. I like Piath a lot but feel she is at least a year away from being ready, and while the current roster has some valuable players who can cover in an emergency, it is a weakness. And it is a specific weakness in the most important games each year - those against other top 10 teams that have true centers on their rosters.

No one is 'complaining' about the plethora of SG/Wing/SF players, everyone was excited when we got another PF as a transfer creating another deep position, not sure what is so different about adding a true center if it does happen.

I think you are being generous and optimistic about Piath. If she is a contributing senior, we'll be lucky. Hoping for Cardosa is too much. Won't happen. Think Baylor or Stanford or S. Carolina. Where do they speak portuguese?

 

[Longtime fan]

Have a friend living in Syracuse told me she is coming to UConn. Hope this is true ... saying she wants a NC ring in her college.

Does your friend have any idea WTF is going on in Syracuse Women's BB? A year or two ago they all adored that coach. Now, everyone wants out?

 

[UcMiami]

Where do they speak portuguese?

Angola, Brazil, Cape Verde, East Timor, Guinea Bissau, Macau, Mozambique, Portugal, & São Tomé and Príncipe.
Except for Brazil, none of them are much into women's basketball. Think she is going to have to stick to English for her college career.

 

[CocoHusky]

If Geno can get a 6’7” post that was ranked #5 coming out of high school and keep her for 4 years, why are we worrying about future recruits? A bird in the hand....

I'm worrying about future recruits because:
0) This would be the second post player UCONN has signed in the last few weeks. A month ago Amari DeBerry was thinking" I'm only competing with ONO and AE for minutes next season. Today she is thinking I have to compete with ONO + AE + Dorka + Cardoso.
1) Cardoso's DoB is April 2001 which makes her WNBA eligible Spring of 2023. I doubt she will be sticking around Storrs until 2025.
2) Both of the current UCONN 2022 commits Brady and Patterson are higher ranked than Cardoso. Both are also capable of playing in the post.
3) Aalyah Del Rosario '23 is higher ranked than Cardoso and is being recruited by UCONN.
IMO Geno should still do this but the impact on future recruits has to be consider because if signing Cardoso cost UCONN Amari, Ayanna, Ice, or that other Aalyah it will not be wort it.

 

[jazz]

Stop all this trash ! You have no idea what they are doing or saying. You trying to start up gossip
?

im not trying to start anything but i do feel like it is unusual. stop going off the deep end.

 

[jazz]

Actually, wherever she goes, she will be like a Freshman with 4 years of eligibility due to the NCAA's last year doesn't count as a year of eligibility.
Edit: Sorry after I posted this I saw that it had already been noted.

thank you nonetheless.

 

[newfrontier]

Except the coach will pay nothing. The new school will foot the bill and if in a P5 league their TV money will take care of it and they'll put off the biannual renovations to the locker room for a year...............

OK, so the new or "winning" school who hires the coach pays off or easily absorbs the financial penalty that must be given/paid to the old or "losing" school. But, at least the old school gets some compensation when their coach bolts for greener pasture. However, under the new world order, when the great player bolts to a new school which looks greener, what compensation will the old school get when they lose their best player? NOTHING. There is no contract penalty to be paid off or other compensation to be given to the old school. They simply lose. I see the rich getting richer in this new system of penalty free player transfers. This is not good for college sports.

 

[jazz]

Not cool to speculate like that. If you want drama there are plenty of daytime soaps to follow.

very well but i just find it curious. there is a lot of speculation on a board. actually most posts are speculation.

not sure what daytime soaps have to offer since i have never seen one.

 

[jazz]

As The World Turns..lol...imagine a group of girls/women not inviting someone into their club. Has that ever happened?

im just responding to the original post. maybe it means nothing and maybe there is a good reason for it....but it also seems a bit unusual. anyway, the more we go back and forth over it, the more of a drama it becomes.

 

[tower1]

I think you are being generous and optimistic about Piath. If she is a contributing senior, we'll be lucky. Hoping for Cardosa is too much. Won't happen. Think Baylor or Stanford or S. Carolina. Where do they speak portuguese?

I don't care how crowded it is you don't turn away a 6'-7" player they don't grow on trees. And she is talented !!!!

 

[jazz]

Whether Deberry can/will bang down low remains an unknown. She has a wider frame than Liv, and is still filling out. Not mention she hasn't yet had the benefit of college strength and conditioning work.

i was thinking more of immediately next year. it seems she may struggle down low but we will see. i do remain skeptical however but hopeful. if we get cardosa is will not matter

 

[jazz]

I think this was an assumption.

another poster reminded me that is was due to a low SAT score. but i cant confirm this and not sure anyone else can either but i do remember reading it on this board.

 

[GreatValue]

Yes this starts in 2022 however for the current year 2021 it’s July 1

From the ESPN article:
The NCAA's new transfer rules will require players in fall and winter sports to notify their current schools they intend to leave by May 1; spring sport athletes must do so by July 1, starting in 2022.

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