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Can anyone muster up one positive takeaway?

UGo said:
There is one. Jack G. was massively disappointing. When he had trouble handing the ball off the first play of the game, knew he wasn’t in right mental state to lead the team.

Biggest issues is he misses guys left and right and doesn’t deliver balls where our receivers can fight for yardage. And honestly, just not a good tight spiral - hard for receivers.

While we are one game in, Krajewski looked like big, confident and delivered the rock. Yes, has missed a coupe throws but he looked far more in command of the offense. If it turns out he is our starter, got to put the decision to start Jack G today on the coaches.

While there is some negative in this post - it’s mostly positive.
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My question is, what did he see in Zerg vs SK? Could SK have been in the doghouse for some reason?
 
Brochacho said:
We looked competitive in Q1 when the offense was terrible as opposed to historically bad. Nobody in their right mind expected a win. Win next week and we are right where we expected. I think every poster here would like to have (And expected to) look better than we did yesterday, but it is what it is. Fresno is solid - not a NY6 contender - but a solid 6 or 7 win team. Going into the season we expected UConn to be bad and clearly we still are. Thing is, we play a lot of bad teams. Two FCS teams. MTSU and UMass are among the worst (With UConn) at the G5/Indy level. Progress is 3-9 or 4-8 while looking better than the teams that are below us and we can still show that. Yesterday was discouraging, but I'm withholding judgment on the season & RE until we see what happens with Holy Cross. I'm not expecting 56-0 but if we get something like 14-12... then yes, yikes.
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This is where I am. I did not expect to win but 45-0 hit me like a ton of bricks. Did not expect the offense to look like it regressed after almost two years of maturation. I was worried about the OLine and I was right. However, the "glass half full" me hopes it was the heat, hopes it was Fresno proves to be good this year, hopes it was the shoes, hopes they learn and get better quickly. I will see with my own two eyes next Saturday vs. HC. If we don't dominate them, um, "yikes" just about covers it.
 
Nextmanup said:
Dehydration played a factor for some of the players .. 120 on the turf and there were people sick from the heat in the stands. It was hot and miserable today.
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FWIW, Bulldog fan here, and wanted to comment on this. This game time can be blamed on CBS Sports and their need to fit a game into a specific time slot. This is normal weather for this time of year in Fresno. That is why all home games have historically been night games (7pm or later), at least early in the season. The last time a non-night game was held in these kind of conditions was against Colorado in 2012. That was at 5pm instead of 7pm. The result? Fresno won 69-14. That was also due to CBS Sports needing to fit a game into a time slot.

Best of luck on the rest of your season. Am hoping to make the return trip out there next year. Always enjoy going to one road game a year, and a trip to see the fall colors of the NE combined with a football game sounds like a good time.
 
FS is a very good team. The problem is not RE, he has already proven that he can win here. The problem is we have dropped down a level by leaving the AAC. Recruiting has gone down as a result.
 
Chief00 said:
Randy’s plan was good, the players didn’t execute.
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I didn’t watch the the game but it sounded horrible on the radio. Glad there were some positives. This performance is a least partially because they did not play against better competition last year. A whole year without full contact. Hope they can get it together in the next couple of games.
 
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Fresno expects to be good this year and had 20 out of 22 starters back. We will see how it plays out for them. Not scoring is what makes this so disappointing. Not being close enough to try a field goal. Without better QB play the HCRE will be fired. UMass played some big programs a few years back and they could score despite the beatdown. This ongoing QB problem has to get solved. Our o-line blocking schemes in the run game are an issue as our players can not execute them against a decent defense. Everything takes too long to develop. With no run game we were sunk. HC will tell us if any progress has been made. Winning by 2 touchdowns is not enough progress in my mind. Progress would be 38-10 UConn.
 
The defense looked very solid first quarter and gave up big plays consistently in the 2nd. Fix those big play issues in the secondary and I believe this will be a solid D.

The offense may be historically bad this season if the QB can’t throw deep. Every opponent will fill the box and play receivers tight, not worrying about separation deep. That’s a recipe for disaster against all opponents except possibly Holy Cross.

If they win handily against Holy Cross, it’ll indicate nothing in terms of how they’ll do against other teams on the schedule. On the other hand, if they don’t win handily against HC ….
 
NE Football said:
FS is a very good team. The problem is not RE, he has already proven that he can win here. The problem is we have dropped down a level by leaving the AAC. Recruiting has gone down as a result.
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You are trolling, right? Recruiting is much better now. Our incoming class is actually “good”. The recruits like the Indy deal with some big names on the schedule and the CBS deal putting every game on national tv.

Edsall needs to get his head out of the sand, start Krajewski and hire a genuine OC and let him do his job. Randy Edsall should be a recruiter, evaluator and manager. Game planning has passed him by but I love his eye for athleticism and talent. (Except at QB, where he continually picks the wrong one)
 
jdb50 said:
Fresno expects to be good this year and had 20 out of 22 starters back. We will see how it plays out for them. Not scoring is what makes this so disappointing. Not being close enough to try a field goal. Without better QB play the HCRE will be fired. UMass played some big programs a few years back and they could score despite the beatdown. This ongoing QB problem has to get solved. Our o-line blocking schemes in the run game are an issue as our players can not execute them against a decent defense. Everything takes too long to develop. With no run game we were sunk. HC will tell us if any progress has been made. Winning by 2 touchdowns is not enough progress in my mind. Progress would be 38-10 UConn.
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UMASS had Whipple
 
CL82 said:
If they don’t beat the Holy Cross handily, I think I’m done.
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You should brace yourself for a lower scoring version of the last Rhode Island game. Reset your expectation to that and then be pleasantly surprised if UConn wins easily. And note that it could end up the other way. That is not unthinkable at this point.
 
Self-awareness and restraint were the big winners yesterday.

I was pretty stoked for the game so about 30 minutes before kickoff I made a nice big Tito's and lemonade in a Yeti style tumbler (I would never buy a Yeti but it's that style). Tasted great, so about midway through the first quarter I made a second one. About the same time I finished the second drink the wheels had fallen off and it was game over. I made the wise decision to stop the vodka and switch over to some macro brand ultra light beer. Wise decision. Sipped a couple of them during the second half, took a nice nap after the game and by 5 pm, I felt great.

So, there's that.
 
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Hoophound said:
You are trolling, right? Recruiting is much better now. Our incoming class is actually “good”. The recruits like the Indy deal with some big names on the schedule and the CBS deal putting every game on national tv.

Edsall needs to get his head out of the sand, start Krajewski and hire a genuine OC and let him do his job. Randy Edsall should be a recruiter, evaluator and manager. Game planning has passed him by but I love his eye for athleticism and talent. (Except at QB, where he continually picks the wrong one)
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100% this!!!

Nothing against Zergiotis, except for the fact that he is clearly the second best QB on our team. I kind of had a heart-sinking feeling when I saw him start.

And Fresno might be a good team, but to perform historically bad on offense against them after having had 2 years to prepare a gameplan... unbelievable...
 
JMick said:
poor McFadden. Comes here to kick FG's, has to take over punting because the other guy sucks, and the offense can't even get within the 40 to run him out there.
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Was thinking the same thing. Kids a 4 ⭐️ kicking recruit all-American w/ offers from you name it U, and comes here to play immediately doesn’t attempt even 1 kick except warm ups his first collegiate game. And has to take over punting too.
 
Punting. Defense in 1st quarter before they got gassed, even the secondary which is young. Offensively idk, receivers ran good routes to gain open space. Then we couldn’t throw the ball to hit the broad side of a barn.
 
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One would require a very fine sieve to find anything positive to take away from yesterday. "Flashes of competence," is not a qualifier in my book. The D looking respectable for 20 minutes is not a positive when the game is 60 minutes long and you give up 45 and the scrubs were put in early. For the last two seasons opponents scored at will be throwing 10-15 routes. It took Fresno 20 minutes to figure that out. I chalk that up to the Fresno staff wanting to stick to a script for the 1st Quarter. Nothing has really changed on D. The line looked a bit better but with so many holes, it doesn't really matter.

The offense might be the worst in FBS history. 35 yds rushing and 72 yds passing isn't offense, it's a rounding error. Beating Holy Cross and Yale isn't what we signed up for, assuming we do. Same goes for Army, Wyoming, and UMass. These are gimmies for any legitimate program, even one that can be considered rebuilding. The clock is officially ticking on RE 2.0. Win 4 of the above 5 if you want to shut everyone up. Anything less is a failure because yesterday was a festival of ineptness.
 
RSTuthill said:
You should brace yourself for a lower scoring version of the last Rhode Island game. Reset your expectation to that and then be pleasantly surprised if UConn wins easily. And note that it could end up the other way. That is not unthinkable at this point.
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Post ass whipping hangover. My mind will be right by the next game.
 
O-Line was poor (apparently they didn't really intend to start Walker at C, who was the guy responsible for the first sack). Zergiotis can not be the QB going forward, he simply can't complete anything outside of 5-10 yards on a crossing route. Without the ability to threaten teams outside or deep, there will never be a running game and no running game, means that an offense lead by Edsall and Giufre is lost.

The defense looked good for about a quarter and a half. Then they faced some adversity with the first big play and they all seemed to pack it in. Whether it was the heat, whether it was a feeling of "here we go again" for a group of guys who've never managed to come back, or whether it was poor talent/schemes it wasn't good from that point on. My own feeling with the defense was that it was more mental coupled with the heat.

I think there are some building blocks and the defense could be competent; but without the ability to score (particularly against what was one of the worst G4 defenses a year ago) it won't matter. My hopes were modest and for a quarter/quarter and a half I felt ok (I wanted to see a competitive(ish) game that gave me a reason to want to be watching into the second half, instead my biggest hope coming out of halftime was that we'd see a QB change while there was a chance to evaluate Krajewski against Fresno's 1st team for more of an apples to apples comparison).
 
SubbaBub said:
Beating Holy Cross and Yale isn't what we signed up for, assuming we do. Same goes for Army, Wyoming, and UMass. These are gimmies for any legitimate program, even one that can be considered rebuilding.
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Based on yesterday’s game, do you believe we are a 5 win team? I would take that, gratefully. It’s not my goal for the program, but it means that we are playing at least vaguely competent football. Of course it also means that Randy’s here at least one more season.
 
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I’m sticking to it watch Dan Os commentating sk high school tape. The balls he throws as a high schooler is ridiculous. Also against teams that have multiple secondary players that went to P5 schools. He was lashlees guy and Zerg is res. He strikes me as the type that will pick personal feelings over talent. The proof is in the pudding
 
FWIW, The Boneyard still has not changed its mind on this issue:

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Watchdog said:
Even on short throws he's not putting the ball where it needs to be to keep the receivers' momentum going.
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Agree 100%, attended the open practice and both QBs were completing short, med and long passes but not under this kind of pressure.
The staff has to find a way to simulate that even if it means having a O lineman fall down each play. ;) The D pressure was not in the thought process, he also did not shake off the faux fumble or the coaches failed to talk to him. You could easily tell on the next two terrible plays it was still in his head.
BlueDogs said:
The solution is clean house.
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In essence what you suggest would shut down the program. We are on what one might call strike 3. I don't see many even the hardcore hanging in another 5 years or more for strike 4.
Dave will hang with Randy as long as he possibly can, he was his first big move on coming here and will give it every possible chance to work. He also knows football and realizes Randy was handed a pail of shat not once but twice. First a bare cupboard and then a period of trying to recruit with out being able to tell recruits who they might be playing.
 
Finally saw the vid of the first FS pick 6. I agree with the refs. The pass rusher had his hand on the ball before the arm started forward. Or at least it was close enough that the call on the field could not be overturned.
 
RSTuthill said:
Finally saw the vid of the first FS pick 6. I agree with the refs. The pass rusher had his hand on the ball before the arm started forward. Or at least it was close enough that the call on the field could not be overturned.
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The problem with these kinds of calls is that the refs are basically taught now to not blow the whistle, and let it go to replay. It's all well and good, until you bring in the "clear evidence" to overturn piece - you basically decide on the field, every time, that it's a fumble.
 
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