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Watched the replay. At one point this game became a uncalled push-off, stiff arm, shoulder drop instructional video.
Where's the replay??

Fox just shows a condensed version currently.
 
At what point will the staff look to start him while Mullins is out though? When he's playing like this he looks like one of the best perimeter guys on the team. And he's now had his 2 best games against the best teams we played so far (MSU, BYU). Confidence looks to be soaring.
The answer is likely not until he shows he can cut down on the fouls. If he starts and picks up two quick ones, it changes a lot for the team and also how Ross has to play. He’s played well in the 3 and D role off the bench. I’m not sure I’d change that if I’m Hurley as he’d move back once Mullins comes back. I feel like the role consistency has been good for him.
 
I’m excited to see Mullins added to the mix, and quite possibly Furphy for depth minutes too. This team has exciting potential.
We will have an 8-9 man rotation at most. Furphy won’t be part of it.
 
I think its because we went from being euphoric we a re crushing BYU, to OMG we might blow this, and its natural for people emotionally invested to feel that way. Had we been behind and had some crazy comeback people’s mind set would have been different.
Then that person should wait a little while after it’s over, have a drink or sober up, cry some tears to themselves, and then consider making a fool of themselves on the internet.
 
The answer is likely not until he shows he can cut down on the fouls. If he starts and picks up two quick ones, it changes a lot for the team and also how Ross has to play. He’s played well in the 3 and D role off the bench. I’m not sure I’d change that if I’m Hurley as he’d move back once Mullins comes back. I feel like the role consistency has been good for him.
I'd think we'd reward a guy for playing at the level he's been playing at and continue to build that confidence.

He's worked hard to start showing his ability in games. Let's reward him. Being a starter trying to stay on the court can also help him be mindful about his fouls.
 
I'd think we'd reward a guy for playing at the level he's been playing at and continue to build that confidence.

He's worked hard to start showing his ability in games. Let's reward him. Being a starter trying to stay on the court can also help him be mindful about his fouls.
I like Ross off the bench. He brings athleticism and energy and can spark things. Stew is not that guy. He needs time to acclimate and get into the flow. Sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn’t. Once Mullins is back, as things are now, I’d think he’d be your starter and Ross is your first off the bench at the 2/3. Stew is your backup 4 and grabs some minutes at the 3 as well. We all know Stew has a ton of talent, but he just can’t seem to consistently give you a game at both ends.
 
I like Ross off the bench. He brings athleticism and energy and can spark things. Stew is not that guy. He needs time to acclimate and get into the flow. Sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn’t. Once Mullins is back, as things are now, I’d think he’d be your starter and Ross is your first off the bench at the 2/3. Stew is your backup 4 and grabs some minutes at the 3 as well. We all know Stew has a ton of talent, but he just can’t seem to consistently give you a game at both ends.
Mullins will and should be the starter when he's back. Ross is a first piece off the bench rotational defensive sparkplug.

I would agree that for now, I'd totally throw Ross in there.
 
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I like Ross off the bench. He brings athleticism and energy and can spark things. Stew is not that guy. He needs time to acclimate and get into the flow. Sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn’t. Once Mullins is back, as things are now, I’d think he’d be your starter and Ross is your first off the bench at the 2/3. Stew is your backup 4 and grabs some minutes at the 3 as well. We all know Stew has a ton of talent, but he just can’t seem to consistently give you a game at both ends.
I've never heard of let's start the struggling player over the player that's playing well before.

The mental gymnastics for some on this board to make this make sense is hilarious and a part of the entertainment of Ross playing well. Haha
 
Some closing thoughts before heading back…

1 As my favorite comedian (Earthquake) says “These ain’t jokes” well this ain’t March. at this point in the season we are way ahead of last year.

2. Complaints about Malachi and Silas clock management and press issues: last year Mahaney failed to get the ball to half court in 10s…twice. But also don’t we have a few 6’7” guys who could see over their press? What Liam did last year?

3. The committee loves “neutral court” OOC wins. This helps way more than it hurts by being a 2 pt win.

4. by March we will be firing on all cylinders as since when are we not better than the 4th game?

5. UConn fans brought the noise, cheer, and support - About a dozen “U-C-O…” fired up the bench like they had no idea our fanbase could bring it.

6. I can barely speak…shouted at the refs, players, etc. Breakfast ordering was a lot of “Que?”
 
I've never heard of let's start the struggling player over the player that's playing well before.

The mental gymnastics for some on this board to make this make sense is hilarious and a part of the entertainment of Ross playing well. Haha
Granted Ross has a decent offensive game. 2 of his first for fouls were unnecessary and the 5th one was just plain BS. Also, we learned that he should be nowhere near the ball when the team is facing a full court press.
 
I've never heard of let's start the struggling player over the player that's playing well before.

The mental gymnastics for some on this board to make this make sense is hilarious and a part of the entertainment of Ross playing well. Haha
He has 10 fouls in 34 total minutes over the last two games and will end up as a bench piece regardless once Mullins is back. It’s not absurd to suggest that keeping him in his current and future role is best for him and the team. I truly don’t understand why you feel the need to be so argumentative over literally anything involving Ross.
 
I've never heard of let's start the struggling player over the player that's playing well before.

The mental gymnastics for some on this board to make this make sense is hilarious and a part of the entertainment of Ross playing well. Haha
I feel like, given it’s a temporary fill-in starting position anyway (assuming we’ve established that Mullins would be there if uninjured) there is not much to gain in starting Ross over Stewart. Reward him with more minutes, sure (and he likely would’ve played more yesterday if not for foul trouble). But in the meantime, Ross seems to be building confidence in a role where he knows he’s going to play plenty and perhaps part of his good play is due to a lack of pressure that may be inherent in shouldering the “responsibility” of being a starter.

On the other hand, I think it could hurt us to have Stewart take a hit to his confidence by losing “his spot” in the starting lineup. Also, I think he’s been doing fine pulling his weight on the court and it’s not really a big deal to me that he’s not getting 10 points a game or whatever might satisfy the people who want him coming off the bench now.

Personally, I think I’d love to see those two both back next year, starting side by side and leading the team with Karaban sadly gone. If Solo doesn’t end up as a draft prospect in 2026 then having him back too will be huge.
 
I'm a little confused by people complaining about our supposed inability to inbound the ball or beat the press. We had no inbounds violations, no 10 second violations, and only 1 bad turnover. Twice we got fast breaks because we beat it so effectively, unfortunately one of those Jaylin Stewart thought Tarris Reed Jr was 18 feet tall on the 2 on 1 fast break
 
We just beat a top 10 team and half our fans are obsessing over the 2 guys who had bad games instead of talking about Reed, Demary, Karaban, and Ross

Yes, we had three great players and a fourth very good one. It would be nice to have a fifth. Look forward to seeing Mullins.
 
I guess if we compare to last years Maui un-wowwy this was a step in the right direction for early season games. If this was an elite 8 game our tune would be different as survive and advance rules would be enforced.

Still, Hurley teams take awhile to get going, sorta like the oven in the house I grew up in.

So early season wins vs top 10 teams with a tourney feel bode well for March seeding and team play improvement.
Yup / got to take it and run with it. Big win. The second half certainly exposed some things that need to be worked on, but that’s not a bad thing. Good learning game with a W.

AZ game is going to be tough. Really hoping Tarris isn’t hobbled.
 
I'm a little confused by people complaining about our supposed inability to inbound the ball or beat the press. We had no inbounds violations, no 10 second violations, and only 1 bad turnover. Twice we got fast breaks because we beat it so effectively, unfortunately one of those Jaylin Stewart thought Tarris Reed Jr was 18 feet tall on the 2 on 1 fast break
The press took us out of our game!!! A by product of killing the clock way too early. How does one beat the press? Not by inbounding to the spot in the floor where they want you to pass!!! 2-3 passes and a layup. If you have a lead and you keep scoring your opponent won’t catch you!
 
But in the meantime, Ross seems to be building confidence in a role where he knows he’s going to play plenty and perhaps part of his good play is due to a lack of pressure that may be inherent in shouldering the “responsibility” of being a starter.
These are some of the mental gymnastics takes I've never heard used for a basketball player ever.

Now starting could lead to a lack of confidence because of too much responsibility.

Usually how it goes in any environment you're in, the better you play the more responsibility you get and earn. What are we talking about
 
The press took us out of our game!!! A by product of killing the clock way too early. How does one beat the press? Not by inbounding to the spot in the floor where they want you to pass!!! 2-3 passes and a layup. If you have a lead and you keep scoring your opponent won’t catch you!
You beat the press by passing the ball instead of trying to dribble the ball and beat your defender 1 on 1, which is exactly what we did last night. Because here's the thing, we had the lead and kept scoring, and guess what? BYU didn't catch us
 

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