BYU Post Game Thread

[cp176]

should we fire the coach? Forgive me, but that is an incredible reach based on what I wrote. I hate to bring up facts: 1. Hurley himself admitted that we stopped attacking. This fact was obvious to anyone who watched the game. 2. Objectively speaking, this is now game #5 where we are fouling at an insane rate. If all we do is foul less this game is not close. We are giving our opponents too many freebies. 3. We all can agree that this game could have been won by 20. Instead we barely hung on. This happened. And it is not okay. and 4. What is the matter with some of you that think so little of coach Hurley that the slightest criticism gets an over reaction? Coach said we played great for 25 minutes. That's wonderful. The game is 40 minutes long. Not good enough if your aspirations are a title in March.

.3 on your list doesn’t work for me. I don’t think that we would have beaten this team by 20 regardless of what our game plan was. They are too good. We were better but they aren’t bad. I’m not a big fan of slowing things down that early but oh well. What I would like to see in those situations though would be to stick Reed at the post and get the ball in to him. He is a tough stop.

 

[FearThePups]

Who said this team is currently “great”? It’s ridiculous to call them only “decent” after beating a top team, with a top 3 pick, sans one of our best players

You are just in semantics at this point.

Who said this team is currently “great”? It’s ridiculous to call them only “decent” after beating a top team, with a top 3 pick, sans one of our best players

youre the one who called them decent. Why don’t you go reread your post #260

I’ll posit it here

Who said this team is currently “great”? It’s ridiculous to call them only “decent” after beating a top team, with a top 3 pick, sans one of our best players

You should go back and read your comment to me in post #260. You were the one who used the word decent., not me.

Your comment verbatim: “So any “decent” team missing one of their best players can beat a top 10 team with a top 3 draft pick?
You really didn’t think that post through. You either drank too much tonight or you need a drink.”

 

[navery12]

You are just in semantics at this point.

youre the one who called them decent. Why don’t you go reread your post #260

I’ll posit it here



You should go back and read your comment to me in post #260. You were the one who used the word decent., not me.

Your comment verbatim: “So any “decent” team missing one of their best players can beat a top 10 team with a top 3 draft pick?
You really didn’t think that post through. You either drank too much tonight or you need a drink.”

Not to jump in the middle here, but he's pretty clearly quoting you calling UConn decent. I included a highlight and a big red arrow to show you calling them decent

 

[Excalibur]

Not to jump in the middle here, but he's pretty clearly quoting you calling UConn decent. I included a highlight and a big red arrow to show you calling them decent

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LOL. He thought he brought receipts. Turns out they were from someone else’s purchases.

 

[Rocktheworld]

You are just in semantics at this point.

youre the one who called them decent. Why don’t you go reread your post #260

I’ll posit it here



You should go back and read your comment to me in post #260. You were the one who used the word decent., not me.

Your comment verbatim: “So any “decent” team missing one of their best players can beat a top 10 team with a top 3 draft pick?
You really didn’t think that post through. You either drank too much tonight or you need a drink.”

No it’s not lame. Who cares that we were up 13 when that starter went down? We only won by 2 points as they came back at the end. So when someone says we’re pretty good, how is that when we blow a big lead and they’re missing 2 starters? We are a decent team, not a great team at this point.

Hey dummy, here you are being the one denigrating a team who beat a top 10 team with a top 3 draft pick while missing one of their best players as being “decent”. This is the first post of yours I responded to. Post 199. And everyone downvoting or laughing at you for saying it.

You made a fool of yourself. Maybe you drank a little more than you could handle. Just take the L and move on. Or just keep making yourself into a bigger and bigger fool; maybe that’s your MO

 

[FearThePups]

Hey dummy, here you are being the one denigrating a team who beat a top 10 team with a top 3 draft pick while missing one of their best players as being “decent”. This is the first post of yours I responded to. Post 199. And everyone downvoting or laughing at you for saying it.

You made a fool of yourself. Maybe you drank a little more than you could handle. Just take the L and move on. Or just keep making yourself into a bigger and bigger fool; maybe that’s your MO

I’ll admit I was wrong but your insults that I’m a dummy, a fool and drank too much are laughable. My contention to the original poster was that UConn loses a 20 point lead and folks are spinning it saying it’s a nothing to see here burger. I don’t agree with that take. And where did I denigrate the team in my post? Saying they are decent but not great is a fair assessment at this point in the season. I’m not ready to drink the kool aid yet. Let’s see where we’re are after the next 5 games.

 

[Mike Honcho]

He's becoming a much more complete player. 31% from three but he's shooting 67% from two, last season he was 48% from two. He's driving much better and finishing much better at the rim.

It's been a huge jump and no one is talking about it. Last season he would pull a Jalen Adams and favor his strong hand on layups, even at the right side of the rim. This year, he's using both hands and is finishing in traffic. It was one of my biggest criticisms of his last year and it's clear that he's made a huge leap. It's going to make him so much more dangerous as an offensive player. Not at all worried about Solo's three-point shooting.

 

[KingAG]

I’ll admit I was wrong but your insults that I’m a dummy, a fool and drank too much are laughable. My contention to the original poster was that UConn loses a 20 point lead and folks are spinning it saying it’s a nothing to see here burger. I don’t agree with that take. And where did I denigrate the team in my post? Saying they are decent but not great is a fair assessment at this point in the season. I’m not ready to drink the kool aid yet. Let’s see where we’re are after the next 5 games.

OR

You can just admit beating the number 7 team in the country is a great win and can’t be spun any other way.

Knowing they have the toughest schedule in the country coming up and betting they’ll lose at some point is disingenuous. I’m sure you can’t wait until they loss a game so you can somehow spin that into a justification for your terrible take.

 

[boog204]

Rashad was actually better off as a starter than a bench player, at least for the 2004 championship team. Originally, Denham Brown was the starter and Rashad Anderson came off the bench. Sometime later in the middle of the season Calhoun replaced Denham Brown in the starting lineup with Rashand Anderson and that team took off and won the title.

Your original point stands, some guys are better off bringing energy and spark off the bench. Stewart might be better off the bench-he was good in 2024 (i.e Marquette BET game) and on and off in 2025. No matter what role Stewart plays, Husky fans just want to see more consistency.

And in 06, their roles flipped again, and Rash gave us 13/gm off the bench. I believe wholeheartedly that Ross is more of an instant "effect" guy off the bench with his energy and athleticism, and that's something this team needs. Stew is not going to come in, bring energy, and make things happen. It's not his nature. We can cherry-pick a couple of games here and there, but he had more 0-point efforts off the bench than he had double-figure games. Again, I'm not knocking him. He's a flow guy. Ross, for better or worse, makes things happen, and he's probably our most athletic and energetic (spazzed?) player. That's a nice thing to insert to bring a wrinkle.

 

[HW611]

And in 06, their roles flipped again, and Rash gave us 13/gm off the bench. I believe wholeheartedly that Ross is more of an instant "effect" guy off the bench with his energy and athleticism, and that's something this team needs. Stew is not going to come in, bring energy, and make things happen. It's not his nature. We can cherry-pick a couple of games here and there, but he had more 0-point efforts off the bench than he had double-figure games. Again, I'm not knocking him. He's a flow guy. Ross, for better or worse, makes things happen, and he's probably our most athletic and energetic (spazzed?) player. That's a nice thing to insert to bring a wrinkle.

Didn't Rashad have an infection for him to start coming off the bench?

Besides. The main reason he came off the bench was because he couldn't play defense. Those guys usually come off the bench.

Bringing a defender off the bench doesn't make sense in basketball because why would you want your best defender guarding the second unit and not starting off on the best player.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I’ll admit I was wrong but your insults that I’m a dummy, a fool and drank too much are laughable. My contention to the original poster was that UConn loses a 20 point lead and folks are spinning it saying it’s a nothing to see here burger. I don’t agree with that take. And where did I denigrate the team in my post? Saying they are decent but not great is a fair assessment at this point in the season. I’m not ready to drink the kool aid yet. Let’s see where we’re are after the next 5 games.

Trust me, you’ve insulted yourself with how you’ve carried on in this thread more than I ever could. I know what your contention was, and I understand what your perception of the word “decent” must be. It’s laughable, but it is what it is; and I’m certainly done wasting mental energy and bandwidth on replying to you

 

[boog204]

Didn't Rashad have an infection for him to start coming off the bench?

Besides. The main reason he came off the bench was because he couldn't play defense. Those guys usually come off the bench.

Bringing a defender off the bench doesn't make sense in basketball because why would you want your best defender guarding the second unit and not starting off on the best player.

99% sure the Staph Infection was in his junior year. Rash was brought off the bench for his offense, for sure. Ross is better off the bench for his energy, and he's been a better offensive player than Stew as well (at least through four games this year).

If we want to look at the BYU game... Ross subbed in for Stew with us down 6-5. When he came out, we were up 23-12. I was on your side last year with instances where Ross entered, didn't necessarily light up the scoreboard, but all of a sudden, we were on a run. His energy and athleticism are very important off the bench. I think we all expect Mullins to be the starter soon enough, so this is all moot anyway.

 

[HW611]

99% sure the Staph Infection was in his junior year. Rash was brought off the bench for his offense, for sure. Ross is better off the bench for his energy, and he's been a better offensive player than Stew as well (at least through four games this year).

I just want to know these cases where a teams best defender came off the bench. Genuinely curious.

When I checked he started coming off the bench towards the end. And his junior year was his most inefficient year coming back from that which is part of the reason he moved. It was performance based I believe. Not fit based.

 

[mauconnfan]

Didn't Rashad have an infection for him to start coming off the bench?

Besides. The main reason he came off the bench was because he couldn't play defense. Those guys usually come off the bench.

Bringing a defender off the bench doesn't make sense in basketball because why would you want your best defender guarding the second unit and not starting off on the best player.

He’s not our best defender how can he be? He’s fouled out last 2 games both in less than 15 minutes. And while Ross is okay guarding on the perimeter Stew has proved to be solid against the low post, back in players he’s defended. He was the better of the 2 on D versus BYU. Ross needs to come off the bench, it’s his spot.

 

[Vancat]

The dunk was the most exciting thing to me. He recognized it really fast and closed on the basket really fast. Blew by guys. Reminded me a bit of Ajax

Same!

 

[Waquoit]

And in 06, their roles flipped again, and Rash gave us 13/gm off the bench.

And it was the worst finish to a season in school history. The other way won the title. But yeah, 13 ppl off the bench is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[FearThePups]

OR

You can just admit beating the number 7 team in the country is a great win and can’t be spun any other way.

Knowing they have the toughest schedule in the country coming up and betting they’ll lose at some point is disingenuous. I’m sure you can’t wait until they loss a game so you can somehow spin that into a justification for your terrible take.

What a sick spin. You people never quit.

 

[FearThePups]

Trust me, you’ve insulted yourself with how you’ve carried on in this thread more than I ever could. I know what your contention was, and I understand what your perception of the word “decent” must be. It’s laughable, but it is what it is; and I’m certainly done wasting mental energy and bandwidth on replying to you

You’re a jerk

 

[HW611]

The dunk was the most exciting thing to me. He recognized it really fast and closed on the basket really fast. Blew by guys. Reminded me a bit of Ajax

Yes this was the aggression we wanted to see from him.

The turn around was great to see because there was still like 10 seconds left on the shot clock. It looks like a shot he's comfortable with and another way for him to look to score.

If we want to look at the BYU game... Ross subbed in for Stew with us down 6-5. When he came out, we were up 23-12. I was on your side last year with instances where Ross entered, didn't necessarily light up the scoreboard, but all of a sudden, we were on a run. His energy and athleticism are very important off the bench. I think we all expect Mullins to be the starter soon enough, so this is all moot anyway.

Why would we want to purposefully not get off to a great start with our best lineup on the court??

Ross is playing like the best wing right now and we do better with him in. We should start him.

When Mullins comes back let him earn his starting spot by either Ross floundering or Mullins playing better than him to get it. A true meritocracy. Like everyone else during Hurley’s time he’ll have to come off the bench when he first gets back anyways.

Any spin to recognize someone is playing better but shouldn't be rewarded with a bigger role is just mental gymnastics at this point for reasons I don't understand.

 

[RuffRuff]

Yes this was the aggression we wanted to see from him.

The turn around was great to see because there was still like 10 seconds left on the shot clock. It looks like a shot he's comfortable with and another way for him to look to score.

Why would we want to purposefully not get off to a great start with our best lineup on the court??

Ross is playing like the best wing right now and we do better with him in. We should start him.

When Mullins comes back let him earn his starting spot by either Ross floundering or Mullins playing better than him to get it. A true meritocracy.

Any spin to recognize someone is playing better but shouldn't be rewarded with a bigger role is just mental gymnastics at this point for reasons I don't understand.

Yeah but you the to admit you’re a bit obsessed with this guy, so it doesn’t feel like a balanced view.

 

[HW611]

Yeah but you the to admit you’re a bit obsessed with this guy, so it doesn’t feel like a balanced view.

I'm obsessed with getting our best lineups and players on the court. And getting the most out of our guys in general.

Please don't try to spin this as anything weird when my evaluation on Ross has just been right so far is all.

 

[superjohn]

I'm obsessed with getting our best lineups and players on the court. And getting the most out of our guys in general.

Please don't try to spin this as anything weird when my evaluation on Ross has just been right so far is all.

 

[HW611]

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@temery can we please bring back the true ignore feature.

I’m trying to say this nicely, it would be helpful in avoiding silly back and forths if I could just block certain kind of people from seeing my posts altogether.

 

[boog204]

And it was the worst finish to a season in school history. The other way won the title. But yeah, 13 ppl off the bench is nothing to sneeze at.

Agreed on the finish... Don't think Rashad coming off the bench was the problem, though. Despite stupid talent, that team just never worked for whatever reason. I'm still somewhat surprised we got by Albany. Took Marcus going off to avoid that ridiculousness.

 

[Inyatkin]

The board: I hear what Hurley is saying, but this guy just hasn't shown it on the court.

One guy: This guy is going to be a starter and a facilitator and maybe has an NBA future.

The player: Puts up 7-2-1 and is a foul machine.

The board: Nice to see him start to contribute.

One guy: SEE! I TOLD YOU!

 

[RuffRuff]

I'm obsessed with getting our best lineups and players on the court. And getting the most out of our guys in general.

Please don't try to spin this as anything weird when my evaluation on Ross has just been right so far is all.

It's a bit of a combo of being obsessed with him, and being obsessed with being right. I've honestly never seen anyone latch on to one player with this much fervor.

And I'm talking from a perspective of being onboard with giving him a start. Although against AZ, Stew might be the better defender if we are throwing him on Peat, or go with AK. Not sure what Hurley's plan is there. I think it's safe to say Demary will be on Bradley. Burries hasn't shown much so far, so Solo can likely handle him until he can't.

 

[HW611]

It's a bit of a combo of being obsessed with him, and being obsessed with being right. I've honestly never seen anyone latch on to one player with this much fervor.

And I'm talking from a perspective of being onboard with giving him a start. Although against AZ, Stew might be the better defender if we are throwing him on Peat, or go with AK. Not sure what Hurley's plan is there. I think it's safe to say Demary will be on Bradley. Burries hasn't shown much so far, so Solo can likely handle him until he can't.

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

 

[RuffRuff]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

So you're right 100% of the time?

 

[Lafayette]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

Didn’t Solo and Hawkins make huge jumps before their Junior year?

And by “when people come around” you mean agree with you that Ross should start?

Literally EVERYONE that covers this team wether on tv, socials like youtube agree Mullins gets the start.

Ross starting has the same likelihood of Koroma starting over AK vs AZ. It is not happening.

 

[Mr. French]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

Why are you pretending you were the only one who thoughts Hawkins and Solo would start, and equating that to Ross? Hawk and Solo were going to be our starting 2s as sophomores. No one didn’t think that.

You talk about mental gymnastics multiple times but are easily the one who extrapolates 50 moves out and acts like others are haters.

Ross has a solid game off the bench with still warts in his game and you’re now off to the races man.