BYU Post Game Thread

[Waquoit]

And in 06, their roles flipped again, and Rash gave us 13/gm off the bench.

And it was the worst finish to a season in school history. The other way won the title. But yeah, 13 ppl off the bench is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[FearThePups]

OR

You can just admit beating the number 7 team in the country is a great win and can’t be spun any other way.

Knowing they have the toughest schedule in the country coming up and betting they’ll lose at some point is disingenuous. I’m sure you can’t wait until they loss a game so you can somehow spin that into a justification for your terrible take.

What a sick spin. You people never quit.

 

[FearThePups]

Trust me, you’ve insulted yourself with how you’ve carried on in this thread more than I ever could. I know what your contention was, and I understand what your perception of the word “decent” must be. It’s laughable, but it is what it is; and I’m certainly done wasting mental energy and bandwidth on replying to you

You’re a jerk

 

[HW611]

The dunk was the most exciting thing to me. He recognized it really fast and closed on the basket really fast. Blew by guys. Reminded me a bit of Ajax

Yes this was the aggression we wanted to see from him.

The turn around was great to see because there was still like 10 seconds left on the shot clock. It looks like a shot he's comfortable with and another way for him to look to score.

If we want to look at the BYU game... Ross subbed in for Stew with us down 6-5. When he came out, we were up 23-12. I was on your side last year with instances where Ross entered, didn't necessarily light up the scoreboard, but all of a sudden, we were on a run. His energy and athleticism are very important off the bench. I think we all expect Mullins to be the starter soon enough, so this is all moot anyway.

Why would we want to purposefully not get off to a great start with our best lineup on the court??

Ross is playing like the best wing right now and we do better with him in. We should start him.

When Mullins comes back let him earn his starting spot by either Ross floundering or Mullins playing better than him to get it. A true meritocracy. Like everyone else during Hurley’s time he’ll have to come off the bench when he first gets back anyways.

Any spin to recognize someone is playing better but shouldn't be rewarded with a bigger role is just mental gymnastics at this point for reasons I don't understand.

 

[RuffRuff]

Yes this was the aggression we wanted to see from him.

The turn around was great to see because there was still like 10 seconds left on the shot clock. It looks like a shot he's comfortable with and another way for him to look to score.

Why would we want to purposefully not get off to a great start with our best lineup on the court??

Ross is playing like the best wing right now and we do better with him in. We should start him.

When Mullins comes back let him earn his starting spot by either Ross floundering or Mullins playing better than him to get it. A true meritocracy.

Any spin to recognize someone is playing better but shouldn't be rewarded with a bigger role is just mental gymnastics at this point for reasons I don't understand.

Yeah but you the to admit you’re a bit obsessed with this guy, so it doesn’t feel like a balanced view.

 

[HW611]

Yeah but you the to admit you’re a bit obsessed with this guy, so it doesn’t feel like a balanced view.

I'm obsessed with getting our best lineups and players on the court. And getting the most out of our guys in general.

Please don't try to spin this as anything weird when my evaluation on Ross has just been right so far is all.

 

[superjohn]

I'm obsessed with getting our best lineups and players on the court. And getting the most out of our guys in general.

Please don't try to spin this as anything weird when my evaluation on Ross has just been right so far is all.

 

[HW611]

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@temery can we please bring back the true ignore feature.

I’m trying to say this nicely, it would be helpful in avoiding silly back and forths if I could just block certain kind of people from seeing my posts altogether.

 

[boog204]

And it was the worst finish to a season in school history. The other way won the title. But yeah, 13 ppl off the bench is nothing to sneeze at.

Agreed on the finish... Don't think Rashad coming off the bench was the problem, though. Despite stupid talent, that team just never worked for whatever reason. I'm still somewhat surprised we got by Albany. Took Marcus going off to avoid that ridiculousness.

 

[Inyatkin]

The board: I hear what Hurley is saying, but this guy just hasn't shown it on the court.

One guy: This guy is going to be a starter and a facilitator and maybe has an NBA future.

The player: Puts up 7-2-1 and is a foul machine.

The board: Nice to see him start to contribute.

One guy: SEE! I TOLD YOU!

 

[RuffRuff]

I'm obsessed with getting our best lineups and players on the court. And getting the most out of our guys in general.

Please don't try to spin this as anything weird when my evaluation on Ross has just been right so far is all.

It's a bit of a combo of being obsessed with him, and being obsessed with being right. I've honestly never seen anyone latch on to one player with this much fervor.

And I'm talking from a perspective of being onboard with giving him a start. Although against AZ, Stew might be the better defender if we are throwing him on Peat, or go with AK. Not sure what Hurley's plan is there. I think it's safe to say Demary will be on Bradley. Burries hasn't shown much so far, so Solo can likely handle him until he can't.

 

[HW611]

It's a bit of a combo of being obsessed with him, and being obsessed with being right. I've honestly never seen anyone latch on to one player with this much fervor.

And I'm talking from a perspective of being onboard with giving him a start. Although against AZ, Stew might be the better defender if we are throwing him on Peat, or go with AK. Not sure what Hurley's plan is there. I think it's safe to say Demary will be on Bradley. Burries hasn't shown much so far, so Solo can likely handle him until he can't.

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

 

[RuffRuff]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

So you're right 100% of the time?

 

[Lafayette]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

Didn’t Solo and Hawkins make huge jumps before their Junior year?

And by “when people come around” you mean agree with you that Ross should start?

Literally EVERYONE that covers this team wether on tv, socials like youtube agree Mullins gets the start.

Ross starting has the same likelihood of Koroma starting over AK vs AZ. It is not happening.

 

[Mr. French]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

Why are you pretending you were the only one who thoughts Hawkins and Solo would start, and equating that to Ross? Hawk and Solo were going to be our starting 2s as sophomores. No one didn’t think that.

You talk about mental gymnastics multiple times but are easily the one who extrapolates 50 moves out and acts like others are haters.

Ross has a solid game off the bench with still warts in his game and you’re now off to the races man.

 

[HW611]

Didn’t Solo and Hawkins make huge jumps before their Junior year?

And by “when people come around” you mean agree with you that Ross should start?

Literally EVERYONE that covers this team wether on tv, socials like youtube agree Mullins gets the start.

Ross starting has the same likelihood of Koroma starting over AK vs AZ. It is not happening.

Let me clear this up before this is the next thing that gets purposefully misconstrued.

Ross deserves the opportunity to start while Mullins is out. He earned it.

When Mullins gets back he will come off the bench at first anyways like every other player that's ever came back from an injury under Hurley.

During that time there should be a true competition for the position. If Ross continues to play at a high level then there should be no reason to move him back to the bench. If Mullins comes out and he's everything and more and outplays Ross, then he should move to the starting lineup as planned.

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

 

[Rocktheworld]

You’re a jerk

The jerk in this thread is the one flippantly dismissing this team as “decent” and whining about not coasting to victory over a top 10 team with a top 3 draft pick, without one of our best players. And then turning around and not being able to keep track of the dumb crap they say.

 

[RuffRuff]

Let me clear this up before this is the next thing that gets purposefully misconstrued.

Ross deserves the opportunity to start while Mullins is out. He earned it.

When Mullins gets back he will come off the bench at first anyways like every other player that's ever came back from an injury under Hurley.

During that time there should be a true competition for the position. If Ross continues to play at a high level then there should be no reason to move him back to the bench. If Mullins comes out and he's everything and more and outplays Ross, then he should move to the starting lineup as planned.

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

Hard to argue with letting the best player win.

 

[HW611]

Why are you pretending you were the only one who thoughts Hawkins and Solo would start, and equating that to Ross? Hawk and Solo were going to be our starting 2s as sophomores. No one didn’t think that.

You talk about mental gymnastics multiple times but are easily the one who extrapolates 50 moves out and acts like others are haters.

Ross has a solid game off the bench with still warts in his game and you’re now off to the races man.

I don't want to continue rehashing these things on the board. I tried Dming you but it's not open.

So you're right 100% of the time?

More like 95% 😉

 

[Lafayette]

Let me clear this up before this is the next thing that gets purposefully misconstrued.

Ross deserves the opportunity to start while Mullins is out. He earned it.

When Mullins gets back he will come off the bench at first anyways like every other player that's ever came back from an injury under Hurley.

During that time there should be a true competition for the position. If Ross continues to play at a high level then there should be no reason to move him back to the bench. If Mullins comes out and he's everything and more and outplays Ross, then he should move to the starting lineup as planned.

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

That’s not how it works..Ross did not earn a start over Stewart. Stewart managed to stay in the game and was the better defender overall (How do you put Ross’s 12 minutes ahead of the Stewart?)

Also one game does not make for a change of starters especially when your dude did 12 minutes and fouled out. See Tarris having really better games than Samson for most of last year and didn’t unseat him.

Your train is still at the station.

 

[HW611]

That’s not how it works..Ross did not earn a start over Stewart. Stewart managed to stay in the game and was the better defender overall (How do you put Ross’s 12 minutes ahead of the Stewart?)

Also one game does not make for a change of starters especially when your dude did 12 minutes and fouled out. See Tarris having really better games than Samson for most of last year and didn’t unseat him.

Your train is still at the station.

If you think it's just one game and agree that Tarris shouldn’t have started last season your train is off the tracks.

 

[Stew Crew]

Agreed on the finish... Don't think Rashad coming off the bench was the problem, though. Despite stupid talent, that team just never worked for whatever reason. I'm still somewhat surprised we got by Albany. Took Marcus going off to avoid that ridiculousness.

It was the most entitled team UConn has ever had, at least since the Jim Calhoun era. Half the team was looking towards the NBA halfway through the season. It seemed like many of them were more worried about not getting hurt than winning.

 

[mauconnfan]

There’s just opinion here and I get all the thoughts but there’s more to basketball at this level than “that guy was really good tonight so he deserves to start or get a shot”…. It’s chemistry, strategy from the staff. My guess is he’s played a little better than Stew but not enough and they like his offense now off the bench so it will stay there. He had 10 pts and 1 assist and didn’t get a rebound while fouling out (more than likely sending people to the foul line) in 12 minutes. That’s not someone stating “I deserve to start on this team” sorry. It’s an “I’m getting better and need to fix some things” kinda game.

You are obsessed with being right, not about Ross in particular. These 2 are battling to see who gets more time off the bench when Mullins games back and they will continue to do that, it’s good for the team we need them both to improve.

In the meantime this is not our biggest concern. Our biggest concern is to get last years version of Solo Ball back soon and not even worry about what we had hoped to be improvement. Need him to make wide open looks, pass the ball better and defend like he did at least that last 10 games of last year. So far he’s been disappointment although driving to the hoop has improved. Need more!

 

[navery12]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

This is why nobody likes or respects you. You were 100% early on the Ross train, ignoring the absurd levels of hyperbole you did and continue to use. But when you try to take victory laps on Solo Ball or Jordan Hawkins, guys that 99% of people on this board loved and it was obvious from the day they stepped onto campus were stars you lose all your credibility

 

[navery12]

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

The piece you're missing is that it did play out on the court all summer, and Mullins won the job. That's why he's going to start when he's healthy. Did Eric Reibe continue to start when Tarris Reed Jr was healthy again?