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WrenchFan69 said:
Hopkins's injury reminded me of Paige Buecker's first knee injury. Weird steps followed by an over-the-front hyperextension. She was out what 6-8 weeks? Significantly better than an ACL tear
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Paige had a tibial plateau fracture and meniscus tear not a hyperextension?
 
Edward Sargent said:
Paige had a tibial plateau fracture and meniscus tear not a hyperextension?
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I believe her injury was the result of that hyperextension. So much pressure pinching on the cartilage and front of the tibial plateau. It is physics essentially.
 
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This really stinks for the kid, for Providence, and for the Big East. Providence was going to make some noise this season, IMO and I'm rooting for Kim English.

I probably can't find any numbers on this and it might just be in my head but it seems like more basketball players are getting major injuries in recent years than I remember in the past.
 
XLCenterFan said:
Hate to see kids get hurt. I want all these teams at full strength. Not only for when we beat them, but so the BE can smack teams in the NCAA.
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That's my sentiment as well. Plus, I hate to see any athlete go through that when they work so hard, but even more for college athletes since they don't get paid like the pros in most cases depending on their NIL deal. Hopkins is a legitimate pro prospect and 1st team all Big East player. The news about his injury bummed me out just like it did with Clingan and Paige Bueckers (spelling).
 
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Friarsnoop said:
I was there and I'd be very happy but very surprised if it isn't serious.
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cross the fingers and toes and hope it's minor knee sprain or minor hyperextension of his knee and he is out for only 2 weeks. I hate seeing injuries like this to any player but especially ones of Hopkins' caliber who is a bonafide 1st team all Big East player.
 
gsmooth said:
cross the fingers and toes and hope it's minor knee sprain or minor hyperextension of his knee and he is out for only 2 weeks. I hate seeing injuries like this to any player but especially ones of Hopkins' caliber who is a bonafide 1st team all Big East player.
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It's already been released, torn ACL
 
superjohn said:
This really stinks for the kid, for Providence, and for the Big East. Providence was going to make some noise this season, IMO and I'm rooting for Kim English.

I probably can't find any numbers on this and it might just be in my head but it seems like more basketball players are getting major injuries in recent years than I remember in the past.
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Certain injuries have increased recently because players are larger and more explosive than in the past.
A lot of it is due to players developing more muscle and explosive power through weight training techniques that have been refined in recent years and applied to athletes in team sports. These techniques were used by Olympic weight lifters and power lifters for decades before they made it into mainstream team sports.
I forget the exact stats, but from the NFL draft you can predict the likelihood of certain injuries based on the weight and 40 yard dash time of running backs. Ex. if a guy is 220lbs and runs a 4.4 second 40 yard dash, then his chances of an ACL tear might be 50% higher than a running back who is 195 and runs a 4.6 second 40 yard dash. The heavier the player and the greater his force production, then the greater the likelihood of tearing tissue. Also, in the past there were likely more partial tears of ligaments (called sprains) instead of full tears that require surgery and a year to recover.
 
WrenchFan69 said:


Welp I was wrong. ACL Tear
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Seemed most likely based on that video but awful to have it confirmed. Heck of a player to watch and now takes a team that possibly could have made some noise and probably drops them pretty far out of contention.
 
Kid was screaming when it happened felt awful for him. The crowd quieted down and you could hear it. Wasn’t thinking it would be good to bad for them no doubt.
 
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Just an awful blow for Hopkins and for PC. He's a hell of a player.
 
This thread is proof that we are BE fans. I'm very happy we're all on the same page. I feel like PC fans would be celebrating this if it happened to Clingan, but maybe I overestimate their scumbaggery.
 
XLCenterFan said:
This thread is proof that we are BE fans. I'm very happy we're all on the same page. I feel like PC fans would be celebrating this if it happened to Clingan, but maybe I overestimate their scumbaggery.
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UConn is the most prestigious program in the conference, with that comes some jealousy. I don't think many fans celebrate season ending injuries though.
 
XLCenterFan said:
This thread is proof that we are BE fans. I'm very happy we're all on the same page. I feel like PC fans would be celebrating this if it happened to Clingan, but maybe I overestimate their scumbaggery.
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When AJ blew out his knee against USD in the 2008 tournament I was a member of a board that was designed for all (then) BE schools. The PC fans (there were a lot of them) were split 50/50 between those who felt bad for AJ and those who were thrilled that we got knocked out of the tournament as a result of the injury. St John's fans on the other hand were in unison in their elation that we lost our PG and were eliminated.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
When AJ blew out his knee against USD in the 2008 tournament I was a member of a board that was designed for all (then) BE schools. The PC fans (there were a lot of them) were split 50/50 between those who felt bad for AJ and those who were thrilled that we got knocked out of the tournament as a result of the injury. St John's fans on the other hand were in unison in their elation that we lost our PG and were eliminated.
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Scumbaggery confirmed.
 
superjohn said:
UConn is the most prestigious program in the conference, with that comes some jealousy. I don't think many fans celebrate season ending injuries though.
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Especially because a lot of older big east fans can’t get out of their heads the pre Calhoun Huskies that they used to demolish. They‘re stuck in 1980-1985 and still can’t believe the new reality before their eyes. 5 NC baby. Whadayou got to show?
 
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XLCenterFan said:
This thread is proof that we are BE fans. I'm very happy we're all on the same page. I feel like PC fans would be celebrating this if it happened to Clingan, but maybe I overestimate their scumbaggery.
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You had me with your first 2 sentences and lost me with the last... Methinks you overestimate their scumbaggery...Real fans appreciate all the hard work that these kids put in and can separate the emotions of a heated rivalry from their empathy for a rival player who has had a serious injury.. AND for what it's worth, Bryce is a genuine good kid and the type of teammate you'd want on your team.
 
Wish Hopkins a speedy recovery.

Providence needs 5 or 6 more wins for an NIT bid. With all 4 Georgetown/Depaul games left, they will probably get it. They need 9 more wins for an NCAA bid. That seems out of reach.

St. Johns and Butler would be the most likely beneficiaries in terms of improving their shot at getting a bid, although Butler already lost one of their games to Providence. This injury makes a potential loss at Providence less likely for the top BE teams.
 
You’ll never be able to convince me that at least 50% of Providence and Syracuse fans wouldn’t celebrate a season ending Clingan injury… you can sit there and say things like “real fans wouldn’t do something like this” but you’re just not living in the real world… a lot of them would… and they’re “real fans” by any other measure… AJ Price, Jerome Dyson, etc. lot of examples… I know one who was shoveling dirt on us following Clingan going down at Seton Hall going on about playing the Wednesday game in the Big East Tourney and loving it… just cause we don’t go that low doesn’t mean they don’t and wishing it wasn’t the case doesn’t make it so
 
Yawin4Heisman said:
You’ll never be able to convince me that at least 50% of Providence and Syracuse fans wouldn’t celebrate a season ending Clingan injury… you can sit there and say things like “real fans wouldn’t do something like this” but you’re just not living in the real world… a lot of them would… and they’re “real fans” by any other measure… AJ Price, Jerome Dyson, etc. lot of examples… I know one who was shoveling dirt on us following Clingan going down at Seton Hall going on about playing the Wednesday game in the Big East Tourney and loving it… just cause we don’t go that low doesn’t mean they don’t and wishing it wasn’t the case doesn’t make it so
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Shoveling dirt on the team is different than shoveling dirt on the player was my point
 
superjohn said:
That looks really bad. Would be a real bummer if he's out for the season. Providence and Hopkins are very good.

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It's unbelievable how these injuries happen. It's like his foot momentarily stuck, just like Aubrey Griffin's injury. Nothing spectacular, like coming down on it from dunking height.
Geno said she had her foot rotated to the side when she came down and that caused the injury. Wonder if Hopkins' injury was similar.
 
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