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Chuck said:
I'm in agreement with @Deepelm. I like everything I've gotten from Barrel. Seagrass, Dovetail, and I recently bought a second bottle of the Armida. The Armida seems a bit polarizing. I'd say it's not really a bourbon anymore. Kind of like a brandy, or even a super high octane madeira.
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They are coming to our store tomorrow for a tasting. Cant wait. The staff will get to try the new Grey Label Dovetail.
 
Deepelm said:
They are coming to our store tomorrow for a tasting. Cant wait. The staff will get to try the new Grey Label Dovetail.
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Steal it. Give it to us.
 
Fishy said:
It’s $100….

It’s off 82 in Ancram. Not crazy convenient for people in Connecticut. Best bet is to come out 44….or make a day of it, come out 84, head up the Taconic to Vale Fox, Hudson House, Taconic, Dutch’s, Hill Rock and then head home down through 44.



Distilling your own stuff is overrated.

Far more appreciative of how Barrel does it than how Hillrock does. (Get a current Hillrock and tell me that you will pay $100 for it….)
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Nice, looks like batch 004 is a good one under $100 will give it a shot if I see it.
 
8893 said:
Funny, we were in Waitsfield with a group of friends a few summers ago and one morning we hit up the local farmers market, where Mad River had a booth and was pouring samples. My buddies were eager to partake; I had one taste and thought it was jet fuel. They were looking for a gift for a friend of theirs and decided to chip in on whatever their most expensive one was. I was thinking I would have been bummed if I was the recipient.
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I used to go to that farmer's market all the time! It's about 20 minutes from our former house in Rochester. There is a "tasting place" adjacent to it in the plaza, that always has Mad River and some other stuff to try. I understood when they were new and aging quickly, but there's no excuse now to sell crap aged in tiny barrels for under 2 years at $50 a bottle.

Barr Hill is often there too. Their gin is excellent, especially the Tomcat. Their vodka is good too and if you see the maple syrup vodka, buy that. I didn't and regret it. Distilled entirely from maple syrup as the sugar source.
 
Fishy said:
Distilling your own stuff is overrated.

Far more appreciative of how Barrel does it than how Hillrock does. (Get a current Hillrock and tell me that you will pay $100 for it….)
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Local shop owner bought a barrel of it. I tried it and...NFW. It's not worth $50.
Deepelm said:
They are coming to our store tomorrow for a tasting. Cant wait. The staff will get to try the new Grey Label Dovetail.
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Man, t8ke raved about the grey label stuff. Lucky to get some of it.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Local shop owner bought a barrel of it. I tried it and...NFW. It's not worth $50.

Man, t8ke raved about the grey label stuff. Lucky to get some of it.
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His review of the Seagrass Grey was a 10/10. I tried the Dovetail Saturday and I would say its an easy 9/10. Just amazing stuff. The new " Vantage " expression is quite good too.

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HuskyHawk said:
Local shop owner bought a barrel of it. I tried it and...NFW. It's not worth $50.
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Right?

Are they just reusing barrels for too long?
 
Fishy said:
Right?

Are they just reusing barrels for too long?
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The bourbon is aged Solera style, which just doesn't seem to work for bourbon. It's an end run on the legal requirement that bourbon is aged in new charred oak. Meaning a new barrel. By adding some in and taking some out over a long time, they seem to be using barrels longer than would be possible otherwise. The result is just bland, and some of it may be quite young, you don't know. I honestly don't know how they legally call it bourbon. I haven't had the Malt or Rye. The rye gets new charred oak, might be better. No idea who the crazy people are that pay their prices.
 
Mrs Diesel and I started binge watching The Outlaws on Amazon Prime this wek and have enjoyed some of this each night.

Nothing crazy and you should be able to find it at most stores. But for the $40-$50 price range it's plenty good for sipping and serving a guest.

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Deepelm said:
This was VERY hot. Never had a whiskey take so much water and stay hot Azzi Fudd. Will have to let it sit a couple months and settle some. Once I got it dialed in though the flavors were crazy.
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The worst I've had were some of the hazmat level Stagg Jr. bottles, but ECBP is often a bruiser. Oxidation really seems to help take the edge off. I used to open those bottles, poor some and put it back in a dark place for a few months.

Took me a moment to figure out what you actually typed for Azzi Fudd.
 
HuskyHawk said:
The worst I've had were some of the hazmat level Stagg Jr. bottles, but ECBP is often a bruiser. Oxidation really seems to help take the edge off. I used to open those bottles, poor some and put it back in a dark place for a few months.

Took me a moment to figure out what you actually typed for Azzi Fudd.
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Yup. Had this happen with a Glenallachie 15. It was ROUGH when opened. Two months on and its amazing now that its been open. I can wait.
 
HuskyHawk said:
The worst I've had were some of the hazmat level Stagg Jr. bottles, but ECBP is often a bruiser. Oxidation really seems to help take the edge off. I used to open those bottles, poor some and put it back in a dark place for a few months.

Took me a moment to figure out what you actually typed for Azzi Fudd.
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*Pour. Why does this happen? I did not type poor. I know the difference in the words. I see this all the time lately. I swear I made fewer mistakes before spellcheck/AI got in the way.
 
Deepelm said:
His review of the Seagrass Grey was a 10/10. I tried the Dovetail Saturday and I would say its an easy 9/10. Just amazing stuff. The new " Vantage " expression is quite good too.

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Yeah, you straight motivated me to kill the rest of my bottle of Dovetail this weekend.

Love it....I won't replace it right away, though. I need to start making a dent in what I have.

Taylor Small Batch is gone now, too. Received it as a gift...enjoyed it, but not replacing it unless I see it retail price...which I won't.
 
Picked up High West Campfire yesterday at a small store that had an old batch at the old price. Anybody else like this stuff? The blend of bourbon, rye and peated Scotch just works nicely as a fall dram.
 
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Fishy said:
Yeah, you straight motivated me to kill the rest of my bottle of Dovetail this weekend.

Love it....I won't replace it right away, though. I need to start making a dent in what I have.

Taylor Small Batch is gone now, too. Received it as a gift...enjoyed it, but not replacing it unless I see it retail price...which I won't.
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If you get a chance at a pour of the Grey Label dive on it. Its beyond good.

Taylor is a great bourbon, just wish it wasnt such a unicorn. So dumb some of this stuff is harder to get than others.
 
Deepelm said:
If you get a chance at a pour of the Grey Label dive on it. Its beyond good.

Taylor is a great bourbon, just wish it wasnt such a unicorn. So dumb some of this stuff is harder to get than others.
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Taylor Small Batch was always a favorite at $40. But the prices are stupid now.

What's your view on Barrell Vantage. I saw it on shelves this weekend at $85. It was in your tasting right?
 
HuskyHawk said:
Taylor Small Batch was always a favorite at $40. But the prices are stupid now.

What's your view on Barrell Vantage. I saw it on shelves this weekend at $85. It was in your tasting right?
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I have a Taylor I snagged at pretty much retail, $55.00. So I cant complain. And I just traded for one as well, along with an OF Single Barrel. So pretty excited to try that OF.

The Vantage is quite nice stuff. It had some classic bourbon flavors, caramel, toffee, vanilla as well as some good pepper on the finish with I assume was due to proof. I would try and get a taste before I purchased if it were me. The Barrell stuff is so palate specific in my experience. For instance Seagrass is everyones fav one, and it did nothing for me at all. I found it quite boring actually. As always with your own palate YMMV. But the Vantage would be a buy for me personally. However I have the advantage of having tasted it. I know its tough to pull the trigger on stuff that is that price and a blend or lower in age. Especially for those of us who typically drink single malts.
 
Yeah, I am just gonna buy it if I see it.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Taylor Small Batch was always a favorite at $40. But the prices are stupid now.

What's your view on Barrell Vantage. I saw it on shelves this weekend at $85. It was in your tasting right?
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These guys are putting together some excellent single cask and blended US whiskies from craft distillers around the country. I've given some as gifts and its been very well received. I really liked the Cedar Ridge when it was released.

Lost Lantern Whiskey
 
uconndogs said:
These guys are putting together some excellent single cask and blended US whiskies from craft distillers around the country. I've given some as gifts and its been very well received. I really liked the Cedar Ridge when it was released.

Lost Lantern Whiskey
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Is that like an IB for bourbon and rye? Interesting I suppose but I wonder if the barrel variation justifies it. In Scotch the IBs often take barrels that may be great but off profile or house style. More options is a good thing in any event.
 
Yes. Very common in Scotland and these folks are doing a great job with the concept in the US.
 
Barrell batch 31 at the local shop for $72. Gonna take y’all’s word for it and pull the trigger
 
HobokenHusky said:
Barrell batch 31 at the local shop for $72. Gonna take y’all’s word for it and pull the trigger
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That is supposed to be a good one. You can look up what is in it as far as the blend.

www.barrellbourbon.com

Barrell Bourbon Batch 031

Barrell Bourbon Batch 031 is a blend of 6, 7, 10, 15 and 16-year-old barrels.The blend was built around the sweetness in a group of 99% corn bourbon barrels and a group of wheated bourbon barrels. To bridge these two groupings, we layered in 15 and 16-year-old barrels for their gentle nuttiness...
www.barrellbourbon.com www.barrellbourbon.com
 
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