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Ah, someone needs to tell Hurley that he hasn`t won anything yet. The four titles belong to Calhoun and Ollie. Let Sid suitup at least.
Not on your say so. Coach's decision.
 
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I understand trying to build a culture. But you also need to build a winning culture. I don’t know what Sid did; none of us do. But if it was not a culture wrecking incident, he needs to play. Winning against Houston on senior night and getting momentum going into the tournament will build a winning culture more quickly than sitting a pouting player, again not knowing what he did.

Standards and consistent expectations are far more important in the big picture. If the goal is a consistent winning program then everyone needs to buy in or move on to another program. It would be a huge mistake for Hurley to allow Sid to play
 
But if Hurley is dedicated to building a program culture, which he absolutely seems to be, and Sid's behavior justified the suspension (which i have to believe Hurley has reason for), what should he do? Cave on that whole culture / discipline / earn the right to wear the uniform thing for the sake of winning this particular game?

I trust Hurley to decide where the line is. Building a culture is incredibly important, but playing a walk-on 30 minutes against a top 25 team at home on senior night while building back up a fanbase to be a hardo is asinine if it can be avoided. I get that this isn't Sid's first offense. Hurley has been around basketball his whole life and I'm positive he knows how to make this work for the team's advantage if possible.

Culture is about buy-in, and sometimes people need stakes or extra incentive to buy in. What if the seniors on senior night voted to allow Sid to play. Do you think Sid would not be extremely grateful and play his ass off? Culture is established by the coach, but is affirmed and nurtured by the players, especially the leaders.

That all being said, this is all probably moot as Gilbert will likely play and I'd rather play 4 guards if possible and make Fabian White guard Brandon Adams or make them play Hinton at the 4 and neutralize their rebounding.
 
Alterique seemed like he was going to be healthy from that interview someone else had posted. Also we didn't use Temi in the last game anyways. Kind of feel like this is a non issue right now.
 
We had 3 guys foul out last time we played them and might have 6 scholarship players and only 1 walk-on this time. Hell a walk on TOOK THE LAST SHOT the last time we played them! If the same fouling result happened or we had an injury or whatever, there's a chance we'd have to play 3 or 4 vs. 5 on CV's senior night.

I don't know what Sid has done. If it is especially egregious that would ruin the culture by playing him, then sure, Hurley should not play him.

If you can use the circumstances as a motivating factor and spin it and let the team vote or something and let Sid dress (and play regularly or in emergencies as dictated by his conduct), then just do that. Let Sid earn the UConn uni by his peers decree. This "my team is on the floor" stuff is ridiculous and dramatic and idiotic. You all want to be hardo coaches from the 70's and 80's so bad. If you're building a culture 365, it can survive a guy coming in the game when you're down to 4 guys in a game and he has to play. You might even get a different sports movie moment out of it.
In all seriousness, what happens to us tomorrow night if Sid is still suspended so we are down to only six guys, plus our only walk on Temi, and 3 guys foul out?? Does the game just continue with 5 on 4?
 
In all seriousness, what happens to us tomorrow night if Sid is still suspended so we are down to only six guys, plus our only walk on Temi, and 3 guys foul out?? Does the game just continue with 5 on 4?

It does.
 
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I trust Hurley to decide where the line is. Building a culture is incredibly important, but playing a walk-on 30 minutes against a top 25 team at home on senior night while building back up a fanbase to be a hardo is asinine if it can be avoided. I get that this isn't Sid's first offense. Hurley has been around basketball his whole life and I'm positive he knows how to make this work for the team's advantage if possible.

Culture is about buy-in, and sometimes people need stakes or extra incentive to buy in. What if the seniors on senior night voted to allow Sid to play. Do you think Sid would not be extremely grateful and play his ass off? Culture is established by the coach, but is affirmed and nurtured by the players, especially the leaders.

That all being said, this is all probably moot as Gilbert will likely play and I'd rather play 4 guards if possible and make Fabian White guard Brandon Adams or make them play Hinton at the 4 and neutralize their rebounding.
I trust Hurley to decide where the line is. Building a culture is incredibly important, but playing a walk-on 30 minutes against a top 25 team at home on senior night while building back up a fanbase to be a hardo is asinine if it can be avoided. I get that this isn't Sid's first offense. Hurley has been around basketball his whole life and I'm positive he knows how to make this work for the team's advantage if possible.

Culture is about buy-in, and sometimes people need stakes or extra incentive to buy in. What if the seniors on senior night voted to allow Sid to play. Do you think Sid would not be extremely grateful and play his ass off? Culture is established by the coach, but is affirmed and nurtured by the players, especially the leaders.

That all being said, this is all probably moot as Gilbert will likely play and I'd rather play 4 guards if possible and make Fabian White guard Brandon Adams or make them play Hinton at the 4 and neutralize their rebounding.
letting players vote on discipline? This isn’t a democracy. It’s not being a hardo because you are holding people accountable for their actions.
 
Sid made his bed and needs to sleep in it. It is what it is. Anyone who thinks Hurley doesn't give second or third chances doesn’t know him. At some point, you can’t keep doing that.

So, do tell, what has Sid done?
 
We had 3 guys foul out last time we played them and might have 6 scholarship players and only 1 walk-on this time. Hell a walk on TOOK THE LAST SHOT the last time we played them! If the same fouling result happened or we had an injury or whatever, there's a chance we'd have to play 3 or 4 vs. 5 on CV's senior night.

I don't know what Sid has done. If it is especially egregious that would ruin the culture by playing him, then sure, Hurley should not play him.

If you can use the circumstances as a motivating factor and spin it and let the team vote or something and let Sid dress (and play regularly or in emergencies as dictated by his conduct), then just do that. Let Sid earn the UConn uni by his peers decree. This "my team is on the floor" stuff is ridiculous and dramatic and idiotic. You all want to be hardo coaches from the 70's and 80's so bad. If you're building a culture 365, it can survive a guy coming in the game when you're down to 4 guys in a game and he has to play. You might even get a different sports movie moment out of it.
I’m cool with that. Just really disappointed in sid- he knows the team desperately needs him, get yer ish together. He s had many chances. Cmon Sid WAke up!!!
 
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So, do tell, what has Sid done?
We don't know and we may never know but we do know that he has not met expectations laid out by Coach Hurley and the staff while the other members of the team apparently have. That's good enough for me. The coaching staff doesn't have to let all of us know every rule in place.
 
For those killing Coach what about Sid holding up his end of end of the bargain. Dan would like nothing more that to keep winning but it’s obvious to me that Sid did something(s) too egregious to let slide. Without knowing what the violation(s) were I am willing to trust Coach. Dan is probably doing this as much for Sid’s future as the team’s.
 
Sid made his bed and needs to sleep in it. It is what it is. Anyone who thinks Hurley doesn't give second or third chances doesn’t know him. At some point, you can’t keep doing that.
If Dan Hurley has reasons to not play Sid that's fine as long as the expectations are level team wide.
Not being a smart arse Chief00
But by saying that indicates you know what Sid did/accused of doing
IF Dan Hurley wants to keep the supposed transgression "in the family" why would you know and if he has allowed some outside the family to know then I am questioning his confidentiality.
I have spoken to Dan Hurley numerous times but I don't know him.
 
Sid made his bed and needs to sleep in it. It is what it is. Anyone who thinks Hurley doesn't give second or third chances doesn’t know him. At some point, you can’t keep doing that.

If Dan Hurley has reasons to not play Sid that's fine as long as the expectations are level team wide.
Not being a smart arse Chief00
But by saying that indicates you know what Sid did/accused of doing
IF Dan Hurley wants to keep the supposed transgression "in the family" why would you know and if he has allowed some outside the family to know then I am questioning his confidentiality.
I have spoken to Dan Hurley numerous times but I don't know him.

I think you're reading way to much into Chief's comment...

"Sid made his bed (did enough to be suspended indefinitely by Dan Hurley) and needs to sleep in it (accept the consequences)."

Pretty straight forward. Doesn't mean he knows what Sid did or was informed by Dan Hurley.
 
letting players vote on discipline? This isn’t a democracy. It’s not being a hardo because you are holding people accountable for their actions.

One man's democracy is another man's players taking ownership of their team. I mentioned earlier I could see bringing in the seniors and see what their perspective is on the situation.
As the coach/leader of the organization hearing from the seniors gives Dan Hurley a great perspective on what Dan Hurley's two years of coaching/mentoring/leading has gotten through to the seniors. It's a helluva feedback mechanism on desired culture without any of the academics. The seniors have a real life situation to see how they think the program should act.
 
Look at all the fans who attacked KO for not giving it his all wanting to have a kid play for not applying himself.
 
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Sid needs to go to Hurley and say " I'll sit out two games next year to play this one for my brothers on senior night. I let them down and they need me. I'll pay the cost with interest just don't let me hurt them any more than I have." DO IT SID!
 
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One man's democracy is another man's players taking ownership of their team. I mentioned earlier I could see bringing in the seniors and see what their perspective is on the situation.
As the coach/leader of the organization hearing from the seniors gives Dan Hurley a great perspective on what Dan Hurley's two years of coaching/mentoring/leading has gotten through to the seniors. It's a helluva feedback mechanism on desired culture without any of the academics. The seniors have a real life situation to see how they think the program should act.
hearing Players opinions and voting are as different as night and day.....i have no doubt hurley solicits feedback from players...a team vote tho no way
 
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hearing Players opinions and voting are as different as night and day.....i have no doubt hurley solicits feedback from players...a team vote tho no way
Agree. Hurley should not and will not cede responsibility for the Sid decision on a team vote. Coach is paid to make difficult decisions.
 
Sid needs to go to Hurley and say " I'll sit out two games next year to play this one for my brothers on senior night. I let them down and they need me. I'll pay the cost with interest just don't let me hurt them any more than I have." DO IT SID!
Hurleys not a loan shark. Also surprised that a lot of this stuff never leaks. In today's age it's really hard to keep anything high profile like this secretive.
 
Hurleys not a loan shark. Also surprised that a lot of this stuff never leaks. In today's age it's really hard to keep anything high profile like this secretive.

With the previous regime, we would have already known the reason by now. Oz can't help here.
 
Shot a man in Reno. Just to watch him die.

smh
Yeah but when he thinks about it he hangs his head and cries.
 
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Sid made his bed and needs to sleep in it. It is what it is. Anyone who thinks Hurley doesn't give second or third chances doesn’t know him. At some point, you can’t keep doing that.
Looks like Papa Hurley is letting Sid stay up late tonight

NATIONAL. TITLE. BACK. ON.
 
Sid needs to go to Hurley and say " I'll sit out two games next year to play this one for my brothers on senior night. I let them down and they need me. I'll pay the cost with interest just don't let me hurt them any more than I have." DO IT SID!

What? He’s not likely to even be here next year.
 
Looks like Papa Hurley is letting Sid stay up late tonight

NATIONAL. TITLE. BACK. ON.
Still a game time decision but my guess is if he is really needed Coach is going to do whatever he can to give Al and CV a win on Senior Day.
 
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