boise not coming

[noeynox]

The reality is that there's no brand left to protect. The only options are to add more C-USA schools. So what's the difference if we bring them into whatever conference we're "creating" or if we join them. To be honest, the only way I see this conference landing a TV deal is by joining a conference with a pre-existing one. No one wants to touch the NNNNBE because UConn and Cincy will jump at anything and they are the only reasons to offer a semi-decent tv deal. Boise leaving shows that there is no TV deal in the works and that if the MWC deal, plus whatever their own tv deal is, is better, than there's nothing left for UConn.....

This post encompasses our plight. I've read scenario after scenario on this board of how we could "get acc to act" if ABC happens. You have to figure Boise and others saw they too were being used as pawns . Do I blame them for looking out for themselves , hell no, I applaud it.

 

[zls44]

I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what you're talking about.

The best of the CUSA has already joined the Big East!!!!

And they're alllllllllllllllll about to go back.

 

[upstater]

The reality is that there's no brand left to protect. The only options are to add more C-USA schools. So what's the difference if we bring them into whatever conference we're "creating" or if we join them. To be honest, the only way I see this conference landing a TV deal is by joining a conference with a pre-existing one. No one wants to touch the NNNNBE because UConn and Cincy will jump at anything and they are the only reasons to offer a semi-decent tv deal. Boise leaving shows that there is no TV deal in the works and that if the MWC deal, plus whatever their own tv deal is, is better, than there's nothing left for UConn.....

There is something for Boise. They get their own TV rights. Which they have deemed to be more valuable than their pooled rights (split with the likes of Tulane) are in the BE. Good for them--I doubt Boise knows what it's doing, but good for them.

 

[upstater]

This post encompasses our plight. I've read scenario after scenario on this board of how we could "get acc to act" if ABC happens. You have to figure Boise and others saw they too were being used as pawns . Do I blame them for looking out for themselves , hell no, I applaud it.

Boise was doing the same thing. Boise is trying to remain viable until the Pac-10 comes calling. That being said, the idea of Boise selling its own TV rights seems preposterous to me. They are a flash in the pan school.

 

[Pudge]

Start with the Contract. This is about money to US = UConn. If Aresco (and I would agree that this is in the questionable category ... but he has far more TV big contract experience than Marinatto or the rest of Providence) can get us money for Markets ... and we do well in the SNY world, we have viability. We are Independent. But we can't go Independent. By that, I mean you have to fill 8 games a year solidly; you have to have the Logo/Conference. You are better with the Comcast people in front of you than NOT.

So Memphis - USF (Tampa) - UCF (Orlando) - Navy (Baltimore-Washington)- Houston - SMU (Dallas) - Tulane (New Orleans) - Cincinnati - UConn (Hartford). It's worth something to a Regionally oriented NBC for content.

We are screwed ... but that Murphy article is crazy: the MWC can't entice Houston or SMU with a Boise clause. And then what?

 

[upstater]

And they're alllllllllllllllll about to go back.

Good. I'll show Tulane the door first.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Sometimes I wonder how the **** some people get through life.

Apparently 2/3 of our board asked out the second prettiest girl for fear of rejection, took the safe / boring career job, stopped running when their toe hurt, and drives a minivan. CT needs some damn fight.

 

[Adios]

Apparently 2/3 of our board asked out the second prettiest girl for fear of rejection, took the safe / boring career job, stopped running when their toe hurt, and drives a minivan. CT needs some damn fight.

I seriously doubt 2nd prettiest.

 

[WestHartHusk]

I seriously doubt 2nd prettiest.

Agreed. Maybe 2nd to the bottom, because its not exactly the bottom, but safe none-the-less.

 

[Pudge]

And they're alllllllllllllllll about to go back.

No they won't. I get paid more by TV contracts than the C-USA in their total Package.

A NEW entity has opportunity. The old contract of the C-USA locks them out. And, further, ESPN is just hateful article after article. Why would Houston or SMU go to the MWC with their $12m total TV contract (less than $1m per school)>? The one thing I agree with: the potential of UConn or Cincy leaving puts this whole venture in an awful situation.

One thing is for certain: this is going to keep playing out.

 

[metsfan2323]

Why would CUSA or MWC schools join this? Why?

I am quite certain that Tulane and ECU were ecstatic about leaving CUSA just a few weeks ago. We need to lock arms with them along with UCF, USF, Cincy, Temple, and Memphis and fight for the Big East name. Joining CUSA is not an option.

 

[Mr. Hand]

Enough with the bull**** that UConn hoops can be salvaged without the football program. Do you want to know the last time a non-BCS school won the title? 23 years ago. And the gulf has only been widening. If you want bball you need football. Period.

The last time a non-bcs school won the title was UConn in 1999.

 

[UCFBfan]

A NEW entity has opportunity. The old contract of the C-USA locks them out. And, further, ESPN is just hateful article after article. Why would Houston or SMU go to the MWC with their $12m total TV contract (less than $1m per school)>? The one thing I agree with: the potential of UConn or Cincy leaving puts this whole venture in an awful situation.

This part is more likely to be asked of the MWC. Granted their deal will be reworked but for how much more? Why add more schools and make the payout less for all the programs in the MWC. You just lured back your big fish, why dilute the rest by adding more schools? SDSU may find its way back but that's probably it. Unless there's some mega TV deal their hiding.

 

[huskyharry]

Pick up another 10 million atleast.

Per ESPN: "
Although Boise State never spent a day in the Big East, the Broncos still must pay a $5 million exit fee to the Big East, though Boise State officials said there are contract provisions that could lower that amount. The Mountain West is expected to help pay that fee, sources said."

But every million counts...UConn may ended up having to split the exit fees with few others...then still find a real home at the end. Just keep swimming...just keep swimming

 

[WestHartHusk]

The last time a non-bcs school won the title was UConn in 1999.

I get your point but in 1999 our upgrade to D-1 was several years in the works, and officially began the upgrade in Jan. 1999. I don't think that championship happens without the 'university on the rise' feel of a school moving into the then very strong Big East.

 

[Mr. Hand]

I get your point but in 1999 our upgrade to D-1 was several years in the works, and officially began the upgrade in Jan. 1999. I don't think that championship happens without the 'university on the rise' feel of a school moving into the then very strong Big East.

I don't disagree with your conclusion - ultimately those that play football on the highest level will be the haves, and everyone else will be the have-nots. Just making a point of order.

 

[huskymedic]

JFowlerCBS 4:39pm via Web
A MWC source says Texas schools have recently expressed interest in joining league. UTEP, Rice, Houston, UTSA could be in that mix.

 

[TuxedoYoda]

JFowlerCBS 4:39pm via Web
A MWC source says Texas schools have recently expressed interest in joining league. UTEP, Rice, Houston, UTSA could be in that mix.

This is being talked about all over Texas....I will be surprised if it doesn't happen.

 

[djct1999]

I, for one, can care less what Boise State decided to do. Lets catch our breath and realize that the formation of the Catholic 7 and Boise's return to the MWC were moves predicated by the understanding that UConn has no intention of ever playing in the newly formed Big East.

 

[Dann]

This is being talked about all over Texas....I will be surprised if it doesn't happen.

yoda, i have been seeing and talking aout it also but every time i always had tmu in and not rice. whats the deal with that? rice would be a double market with uh no? smu would somewhat bring dallas over ntex right?

i think the mwc is going big and texas will have a huge part of the east division of it. why not get tulsa in it also right?

 

[Mr. Hand]

This is being talked about all over Texas....I will be surprised if it doesn't happen.

It would be a great move for the conference, much better fit than what the Big Zombie conference offers.

Watching realignment from the perspective of a UConn fan is certainly more frightening and repulsive than anything I've seen on the Walking Dead, or any other quasi-freakshow scarefest going these days.

 

[upstater]

It would be a great move for the conference, much better fit than what the Big Zombie conference offers.

Watching realignment from the perspective of a UConn fan is certainly more frightening and repulsive than anything I've seen on the Walking Dead, or any other quasi-freakshow scarefest going these days.

Let's have a reality check here folks.

Back when the MWC had TCU, BYU, Utah in it, the conference was embarrassed by its network contract. Its own TV unit folded. Things got so bad that TCU abandoned a geographically suited conference for the BE. BYU upped and left without any conference whatsoever. That's how bad the MWC contract was.

Now, we're supposed to believe that with the addition of San Jose St. and the like, this conference is anything but moribund? What essentially happened is that the WAC merged with the dregs of the MWC and added a couple teams from central Cali.

With or without those teams, UConn's plight doesn't change. It really doesn't matter that you now have to schedule yearly games against UCF, E Carolina and Memphis instead of SD St., Boise and Houston.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Boise was doing the same thing. Boise is trying to remain viable until the Pac-10 comes calling. That being said, the idea of Boise selling its own TV rights seems preposterous to me. They are a flash in the pan school.

The PAC will never consider a school like Boise. Never. Boise won't continue this success anyway.

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[TRest]

Let's have a reality check here folks.

Back when the MWC had TCU, BYU, Utah in it, the conference was embarrassed by its network contract. Its own TV unit folded. Things got so bad that TCU abandoned a geographically suited conference for the BE. BYU upped and left without any conference whatsoever. That's how bad the MWC contract was.

Now, we're supposed to believe that with the addition of San Jose St. and the like, this conference is anything but moribund? What essentially happened is that the WAC merged with the dregs of the MWC and added a couple teams from central Cali.

With or without those teams, UConn's plight doesn't change. It really doesn't matter that you now have to schedule yearly games against UCF, E Carolina and Memphis instead of SD St., Boise and Houston.

I have been assuming Houston and SMU would rather stick with the nBE than try out the MWC, I haven't seen anything to the contrary.

 

[upstater]

The PAC will never consider a school like Boise. Never. Boise won't continue this success anyway.

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I didn't say the Pac is inviting them in.

 

[Mr. Hand]

Let's have a reality check here folks.

Back when the MWC had TCU, BYU, Utah in it, the conference was embarrassed by its network contract. Its own TV unit folded. Things got so bad that TCU abandoned a geographically suited conference for the BE. BYU upped and left without any conference whatsoever. That's how bad the MWC contract was.

Now, we're supposed to believe that with the addition of San Jose St. and the like, this conference is anything but moribund? What essentially happened is that the WAC merged with the dregs of the MWC and added a couple teams from central Cali.

With or without those teams, UConn's plight doesn't change. It really doesn't matter that you now have to schedule yearly games against UCF, E Carolina and Memphis instead of SD St., Boise and Houston.

Times have changed.

 

[Pudge]

And Times will change again.

You just can't monetize Laramie, Fort Collins & Logan ... Or even Boise ... that well.

If Aresco is any good, you'll see a Market driven contract. One that is greater than the MWC because of Dallas, Houston, Orlando, Tampa, Philadelphia and ... Hartford.

I dunno why the MWC would want to be 16.

 

[Adios]

And Times will change again.

You just can't monetize Laramie, Fort Collins & Logan ... Or even Boise ... that well.

If Aresco is any good, you'll see a Market driven contract. One that is greater than the MWC because of Dallas, Houston, Orlando, Tampa, Philadelphia and ... Hartford-New Haven*. (And the rest of Connecticut.)

I dunno why the MWC would want to be 16.

 

[Adios]

JFowlerCBS 4:39pm via Web
A MWC source says Texas schools have recently expressed interest in joining league. UTEP, Rice, Houston, UTSA could be in that mix.

I figured UTSA would get somewhere quick. Let's continue talking crap about ODU.

 

[huskymedic]

I have been assuming Houston and SMU would rather stick with the nBE than try out the MWC, I haven't seen anything to the contrary.

FWIW...

sdutzeigler 6:01pm via web
Bottom line right now: MW is looking for a 12th member. BYU is almost certainly first choice. SDSU vying with SMU and Houston after that.