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I can't say I disagree with his assessment of Susan Herbst when it comes to athletics. She neither knows nor cares as long as it doesn't cause embarrassment (Calhoun would have been out on his butt when the Nate Miles story broke, especially after Laptopgate had she been President). If she's calling the shots in the AAC, we're going to be closer to the CAA than the Big 10 in 5 years. I've heard from a couple of reliable sources that she was the one who pushed for/demanded Tulane because she wanted to have an academic "equal" to balance out some of the glorified community colleges (Memphis, East Carolina, Houston) the league will be stuck with in the future. She seems to be doing a fine job on the academic side, but the athletic side is in free fall. And her rock star AD is turning into a mill stone.
 
I can't say I disagree with his assessment of Susan Herbst when it comes to athletics. She neither knows nor cares as long as it doesn't cause embarrassment (Calhoun would have been out on his butt when the Nate Miles story broke, especially after Laptopgate had she been President). If she's calling the shots in the AAC, we're going to be closer to the CAA than the Big 10 in 5 years. I've heard from a couple of reliable sources that she was the one who pushed for/demanded Tulane because she wanted to have an academic "equal" to balance out some of the glorified community colleges (Memphis, East Carolina, Houston) the league will be stuck with in the future. She seems to be doing a fine job on the academic side, but the athletic side is in free fall. And her rock star AD is turning into a mill stone.
I'll give you credit: for a troll, you're pretty creative.

Hey, wait, no you're not. It's the same s*** every time.
 
Calhoun would have been out on his butt when the Nate Miles story broke, especially after Laptopgate had she been President


Wow. I have heard of fortune tellers, but you can go back in time and predict an alternate future? Holy Sh&t that is impressive!!!

(unless you are just talking out of your as usual)
 
I'll give you credit: for a troll, you're pretty creative.

Hey, wait, no you're not. It's the same s* every time.
Oh yeah, you're right. The AAC is a great place to be. And Susan did say we want to winningly win. Can you honestly say that Athletics is getting better in the Herbst-Manuel regime?

Say what you will about Jeff Hathaway, On his watch UConn won multiple NCAA Championships in mens and womens basketball, upgraded the football program, went to multiple bowls including a BCS bowl, went to a super-regional in baseball, become the only program to win national Championships in mens and womens basketball. I think, though I am not sure, fastest program to get to a BCS bowl from upgrade to 1AA. When you look at the performance and not the person it isn't too shabby. Far better than the Rock Star has done. I have a sense that he might have just been there too long and had lost his fire,and he was as I said a nasty, petty miserable little man. But he certainly ran a successful department where he had to balance a couple of huge egos. Warde on the other hand, got played embarrassingly by one and ticked off the other one before having to back down.
 
Wow. I have heard of fortune tellers, but you can go back in time and predict an alternate future? Holy Sh&t that is impressive!!!

(unless you are just talking out of your as usual)
Ok let's re-phase: It is my opinion that if Susan Herbst had been President, Calhoun would have been out on his after the Nate Mile fiasco given all the other things that preceded it.
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Ok let's re-phase: It is my opinion that if Susan Herbst had been President, Calhoun would have been out on his after the Nate Mile fiasco given all the other things that preceded it.
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So, you are going with talkin out of your as usual.

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That's fair. Uconn sports is dying. Uconn academics are going great and rising.

You tell me how many of you guys are going to keep coming to this site to talk about the English department and the math test next Friday?
Really, do you have to be as big an ? We should all be proud of the academics so just stop it. Rant all you want about our part in CR but academics is what we are all about in the first place. At least for those of us who actually went to UConn.

$25 bucks in the DB jar for you.
 
Huskyfan, I'm on the road and no time right now to punch your silliness full of holes. That will come later. Based on how you fail in logic, I'll guess I followed UConn sports before your parents were born. Suffice to say that by your logic UConn is about to totally fall off the sports scene, which it isn't, and membership in a high level sports conference is what makes schools like Vandy and UVA academic powerhouses even if they aren't sports powerhouses. Dumb.
 
if sports were not important then michigan, uva, vandy, texas and everyone else wouldn't give a dam. the ivy's after everything that happened the past 40 years in college sports still play college sports at a d1 level. your mentally not capable of understanding sports and its relationships to schools at this point it seems. stick to the cesspool and the womens board i guess. sorry.

I think U. Cal. San Diego isn't fretting where they stand in the sports world. There are others.
 
Say what you will about Jeff Hathaway, On his watch UConn won multiple NCAA Championships in mens and womens basketball, upgraded the football program, went to multiple bowls including a BCS bowl, went to a super-regional in baseball, become the only program to win national Championships in mens and womens basketball. I think, though I am not sure, fastest program to get to a BCS bowl from upgrade to 1AA. When you look at the performance and not the person it isn't too shabby. Far better than the Rock Star has done. I have a sense that he might have just been there too long and had lost his fire,and he was as I said a nasty, petty miserable little man. But he certainly ran a successful department where he had to balance a couple of huge egos. Warde on the other hand, got played embarrassingly by one and ticked off the other one before having to back down.
Do you realize that every rational observer of these events who has even passing familiarity with them reports that UConn achieved those stunning accomplishments in spite of Hathaway's incompetence, not because of it? And that he has been roundly faulted by his peers and colleagues in all corners for doing remarkably little if anything to capitalize on these amazing accomplishments, when he was in prime position on committees, etc. with every opportunity to do so? By all reports, the guy simply blew it. He liked attending meetings and being on committees simply for his own benefit, and did the least possible with the most one could expect. He was way, way out of his depth, and colleagues and peers from lesser institutions with far less impressive resumes ate his lunch, while he was out to lunch.
 
There were many other other students that got caught stealing laptops at UConn that year. Laptop stealing is an epidemic. Everyone carries one around, and there are apparently some on each campus willing to snag one (a lot more when you consider how many get away with it). I doubt Herbst changes the face of the university because of a pretty common occurrence. That would be beyond absurd.

What did Calhoun do wrong there anyway freescooter? Are you suggesting that Calhoun stop recruiting suburban kids from upper middle class families with parents who both graduated from the Ivy League?
 
I've heard from a couple of reliable sources that she was the one who pushed for/demanded Tulane because she wanted to have an academic "equal" to balance out some of the glorified community colleges (Memphis, East Carolina, Houston) the league will be stuck with in the future.

Psst, Scooter - your sources are suspect :)

>>Hitt (UCF President) sent a text message to Aresco about Tulane’s interest in the Big East, according to records obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.

“Scott Cowen at Tulane wants to talk with me about possibilities for Tulane in the Big East. Scott is a friend. Will listen and then call you. John,” Hitt wrote to Aresco on Nov. 18.

Aresco responded, “Great, John, their AD, Rick Dixon, is an old friend and he called this afternoon.

They are extremely interested. This would be a big one for us, important market, great school academically, and Scott would be in our tent on the BCS revenue share matter we have to deal with as well as other things. He’s a bulldog and very sharp. Keep me posted. Thanks, Mike.”<<

http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74204586/
 
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WTF is going on? ..............can we have sean and FriarJ give us their thoughts on this situation please, it has to be more optimistic than a couple of so-called UConn fans who throw their usual 2 cents in on these subjects............whacked!:eek:
 
Psst, Scooter - your sources are suspect :)

>>Hitt (UCF President) sent a text message to Aresco about Tulane’s interest in the Big East, according to records obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.

“Scott Cowen at Tulane wants to talk with me about possibilities for Tulane in the Big East. Scott is a friend. Will listen and then call you. John,” Hitt wrote to Aresco on Nov. 18.

Aresco responded, “Great, John, their AD, Rick Dixon, is an old friend and he called this afternoon.

They are extremely interested. This would be a big one for us, important market, great school academically, and Scott would be in our tent on the BCS revenue share matter we have to deal with as well as other things. He’s a bulldog and very sharp. Keep me posted. Thanks, Mike.”<<

http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74204586/
First off, that UCF wanted Tulane too doesn't mean she didn't. Anmd UConn was one of the powers left in the conference...nobody was joining without UConn's at least tacit approval. And Herbst wanted at least some schools that wouldn't be embarrassing academically. I have to believe when she talks about "our equals", she isn't talking Memphis. At least I pray she isn't!
 
First off, that UCF wanted Tulane too doesn't mean she didn't. Anmd UConn was one of the powers left in the conference...nobody was joining without UConn's at least tacit approval. And Herbst wanted at least some schools that wouldn't be embarrassing academically. I have to believe when she talks about "our equals", she isn't talking Memphis. At least I pray she isn't!
I don't even think UConn was involved in the voting process on Tulane. You're completely making s*** up again.
 
There were many other other students that got caught stealing laptops at UConn that year. Laptop stealing is an epidemic. Everyone carries one around, and there are apparently some on each campus willing to snag one (a lot more when you consider how many get away with it). I doubt Herbst changes the face of the university because of a pretty common occurrence. That would be beyond absurd.

What did Calhoun do wrong there anyway freescooter? Are you suggesting that Calhoun stop recruiting suburban kids from upper middle class families with parents who both graduated from the Ivy League?
What did he do wrong? How about let Williams back on the basketball team for the 2nd half of the 2005-06 season? He was suspended for December...Good grief, he missed all those tough games against Fairfield and Texas Southern or somebody...And Price didn't miss a single game because of this incident. Did you know that? Not 1. He didn't get medical clearance to return until MAY 2006, AFTER the 2006 season ended.Go back and look it up. He was back on the court for the start of the 2006-07 season. His "punishment" was laughable. So his suspension was co-terminus with his inability to play. Like telling your 15 year old you'r taking away his drivers license until he turns 16. And please don't tell me they were also kicked out of the dorms...LOL. That whole incident was Jim Calhoun's absolute lowest point in his entire tenure. Worse than Miles by a long shot. Maybe she doesn't fire him over that, but I also think that neither Williams nor Price would get off virtually without penalty.
 
What did he do wrong? How about let Williams back on the basketball team for the 2nd half of the 2005-06 season? He was suspended for December...Good grief, he missed all those tough games against Fairfield and Texas Southern or somebody...And Price didn't miss a single game because of this incident. Did you know that? Not 1. He didn't get medical clearance to return until MAY 2006, AFTER the 2006 season ended.Go back and look it up. He was back on the court for the start of the 2006-07 season. His "punishment" was laughable. So his suspension was co-terminus with his inability to play. Like telling your 15 year old you'r taking away his drivers license until he turns 16. And please don't tell me they were also kicked out of the dorms...LOL. That whole incident was Jim Calhoun's absolute lowest point in his entire tenure. Worse than Miles by a long shot. Maybe she doesn't fire him over that, but I also think that neither Williams nor Price would get off virtually without penalty.

Your timeline is off. The laptop incident happened the previous year. It was investigated in the early summer. Marcus Williams was suspended FROM school for one semester. As I wrote, this was the decision of the faculty board BECAUSE it was in line with all the suspensions the other students received. As for AJ Price, we was suspended for an entire YEAR, and his illness was from 2 years earlier. It was concurrent. That's life.

I get a kick over people who are incensed by property theft. Your punishments for this sort of thing are draconian.
 
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I don't even think UConn was involved in the voting process on Tulane. You're completely making s* up again.
Huh? Come on. Apparently nobody was involved. At least nobody was willing to admit it. All the Catholics deny voting for them too. So UConn didn't, they didn't, Cincy didn't. Yet somehow they're there. Unless Central Florida, who wasn't even officially a member at the time, decided to admit them. Yeah, that's what happened. Or I guess the other option was they just showed up and refused to leave?
 
Your timeline is off. The laptop incident happened the previous year. It was investigated in the early summer. Marcus Williams was suspended FROM school for one semester. As I wrote, this was the decision of the faculty board BECAUSE it was in line with all the suspensions the other students received. As for AJ Price, we was suspended for an entire YEAR, and his illness was from 2 years earlier. It was concurrent. That's life.

I get a kick over people who are incensed by property theft. Your punishments for this sort of thing are draconian.
You don't get it, clearly. Yeah, I'm sure both Williams and AJ Price were really upset about being suspended form school. If they were suspended from school but could have still played hoops they'd have taken that deal in a NY second. And you know what? I'm fine with the University suspending them for comparable times as others. Seems fair to me. But the next question is what did Calhoun do? They got zero "basketball" punishment. He was not a student in the fall of 2005 so he couldn't play anyway. Here's the difference between the current administration and the old regime. Wolf was suspended from basketball for half a semester and is allowed to return to the team as a walk on. Neither Williams nor Price suffered any basketball consequences for their actions. And again, AJ Price didn't miss 1 single basketball game, not one, because of this incident. Zero. Look it up. He got clearance to return to basketball in May 2006, after the 2006 season ended and before the 2006-07 season began. "Son, I'm taking away your driver's license until you turn 16...and by golly we won't allow you to eat broccoli either " that's what happened to Price. I know you will deny it but facts are stubborn things.
 
I get a kick over people who are incensed by property theft.

When I was school, someone stole my baseball glove. It was just barely broken-in and cost me about 12 hours pay. I was livid. I have no doubt it was boosted by a guy like you, they type who gets a kick out of someone being incensed over property theft. I can only imagine if it was years later and it was my laptop with all my stuff on it.
 
You don't get it, clearly. Yeah, I'm sure both Williams and AJ Price were really upset about being suspended form school. If they were suspended from school but could have still played hoops they'd have taken that deal in a NY second. And you know what? I'm fine with the University suspending them for comparable times as others. Seems fair to me. But the next question is what did Calhoun do? They got zero "basketball" punishment. He was not a student in the fall of 2005 so he couldn't play anyway. Here's the difference between the current administration and the old regime. Wolf was suspended from basketball for half a semester and is allowed to return to the team as a walk on. Neither Williams nor Price suffered any basketball consequences for their actions. And again, AJ Price didn't miss 1 single basketball game, not one, because of this incident. Zero. Look it up. He got clearance to return to basketball in May 2006, after the 2006 season ended and before the 2006-07 season began. "Son, I'm taking away your driver's license until you turn 16...and by golly we won't allow you to eat broccoli either " that's what happened to Price. I know you will deny it but facts are stubborn things.

It's total BS for you to say they got ZERO basketball punishment. You know Williams missed the fall--he couldn't even practice. AJ Price was 2 years away from the game. Why are you twisting things by saying that?

And comparing violence against women to property theft is always a losing argument. Miles was expelled for twisting a girl's arm, for heaven's sake. During the Calhoun years.
 
When I was school, someone stole my baseball glove. It was just barely broken-in and cost me about 12 hours pay. I was livid. I have no doubt it was boosted by a guy like you, they type who gets a kick out of someone being incensed over property theft. I can only imagine if it was years later and it was my laptop with all my stuff on it.

Yes, and all the faculty will steal your baseball glove too!! Because it's the faculty dealing suspensions for 1 semester for laptop theft! For multiple students.

What people bugs me is people who like beating up women. When did you last beat your wife?
 
Do you realize that every rational observer of these events who has even passing familiarity with them reports that UConn achieved those stunning accomplishments in spite of Hathaway's incompetence, not because of it? And that he has been roundly faulted by his peers and colleagues in all corners for doing remarkably little if anything to capitalize on these amazing accomplishments, when he was in prime position on committees, etc. with every opportunity to do so? By all reports, the guy simply blew it. He liked attending meetings and being on committees simply for his own benefit, and did the least possible with the most one could expect. He was way, way out of his depth, and colleagues and peers from lesser institutions with far less impressive resumes ate his lunch, while he was out to lunch.
I guess I was less than clear. I didn't like Hathaway. He was a nasty, petty, miserable guy and that's how he ran things. And I believe that he probably lost his edge and needed to be replaced. No problem with that. It happens to lots of people. But the idea that he was incompetent is just wrong. Incompetent don't see the level of success across the board that occurred on his watch. He had two huge egos he needed to placate. 3 if you count Edsall whose ego was almost as big even if his accomplishment weren"t. And neither one was shy about going over his head to the media or the adminstration or outside supporters/donors if he was unhappy. The process by which hathaway was replaced revealed a very ugly side of Susan Herbst, too. She wanted to replace him with someone who shared her vision, such as it is, and that's fine. But she elected to do it in the most ugly way possible. She did something similar at the med school for what its worth. And in all seriousness, ask yourself if Manuel is better. I guess if you're a hockey fan, the answer is yes. But beyond that, you'd be hard pressed to say UConn Athletics is better off under Manuel. Of course it matters less, so maybe that's ok. He was brought here for one reason and one reason only. He got Buffalo out of its APR mess. They had 4 or 5 teams that were below the NCAA standards when he arrived there and none when he left. Susan Herbst wanted a guy she could point to as someone who took APR seriously because her interest in athletics is that they not embarrass the university. Read HFD's list of failures. Forget the bad syntax and all that and focus on the points. And Manuel is following the same old script that made him a "rock star" at Buffalo down to replacing the logo. Pretty soon we'll be Buffalo.
 
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It's total BS for you to say they got ZERO basketball punishment. You know Williams missed the fall--he couldn't even practice. AJ Price was 2 years away from the game. Why are you twisting things by saying that?

And comparing violence against women to property theft is always a losing argument. Miles was expelled for twisting a girl's arm, for heaven's sake. During the Calhoun years.
No, Miles was expelled for violating a court order. Calhoun didn't suspend Williams for a single game. If it had been up to him, Williams wouldn't have been out at all. Price only missed games because he had his illness. He was scheduled to join the team as a freshman in 2004-2005. He missed the 2004-05 season due to the brain hemorrhage, AVM I think it was called, and had surgery in February 2005. So he missed the 2004-05 season due to illness. In August 2005 he was arrested for the laptop incident. he was suspended for the 2005-06 year. But he was not cleared to return to playing basketball until MAY 2006. So while he missed 2 years, it was two years when he was physically unable to perform. So it was a meaningless penalty. As I said above, like telling your 15 year old you're taking away his drivers license. He doesn't have one anyway. You, my friend, are the one who is making up timelines and twisting things. Even if the laptop incident never happened, AJ Price could not play basketball in the 2004-05 or 2005-06 seasons. His doctors wouldn't allow it. His health wouldn't allow it. So saying he missed basketball during that period because of the laptop incident is simply wrong and turns reality on its head. Talk about through the looking glass...
 
No, Miles was expelled for violating a court order. Calhoun didn't suspend Williams for a single game. If it had been up to him, Williams wouldn't have been out at all. Price only missed games because he had his illness. He was scheduled to join the team as a freshman in 2004-2005. He missed the 2004-05 season due to the brain hemorrhage, AVM I think it was called, and had surgery in February 2005. So he missed the 2004-05 season due to illness. In August 2005 he was arrested for the laptop incident. he was suspended for the 2005-06 year. But he was not cleared to return to playing basketball until MAY 2006. So while he missed 2 years, it was two years when he was physically unable to perform. So it was a meaningless penalty. As I said above, like telling your 15 year old you're taking away his drivers license. He doesn't have one anyway. You, my friend, are the one who is making up timelines and twisting things. Even if the laptop incident never happened, AJ Price could not play basketball in the 2004-05 or 2005-06 seasons. His doctors wouldn't allow it. His health wouldn't allow it. So saying he missed basketball during that period because of the laptop incident is simply wrong and turns reality on its head. Talk about through the looking glass...

You know what Miles was expelled for? Precisely? The rest of what you write is pure BS. A player gets suspended for games, and you want the coach to suspend him for additional games because the coach didn't issue the judgment? Really? That is beyond absurd. It would put these judgments into the hands of coaches, like what is done at Syracuse. You're actually requiring MORE coach involvement with your method rather than less. Your AJ Price point is equally absurd.
 
You know what Miles was expelled for? Precisely? The rest of what you write is pure BS. A player gets suspended for games, and you want the coach to suspend him for additional games because the coach didn't issue the judgment? Really? That is beyond absurd. It would put these judgments into the hands of coaches, like what is done at Syracuse. You're actually requiring MORE coach involvement with your method rather than less. Your AJ Price point is equally absurd.
LOL...he was suspended during a period he couldn't play anyway. Look it up. It is true. And for all your bluster you didn't know that and you're embarrassed...so his penalty was being suspended from school for a semester...that's it. The rest of the time he was either too ill to actually be there. And he was allowed back to the school for the Spring of 2006. He wasn't allowed back on the team but that was a meaningless penalty since he wasn't cleared to participate anyway. But I suppose that's more than enough in your eyes. As for Miles, yeah, he was suspended for violating a restraining order. Go back and read the reports on the incident. there was zero action taken against him by the school or Calhoun for original violation which led to the order. It was only after he ended up under arrest for violation that he was subject to any action by the University. Though in Calhoun's defense, he violated the order so quickly, within 15-20 minutes after he was notified, that maybe he didn't have time to take action...
 
LOL...he was suspended during a period he couldn't play anyway. Look it up. It is true.

Who cares?

And for all your bluster you didn't know that and you're embarrassed...

What's embarrassing is you're making stuff up.

so his penalty was being suspended from school for a semester...that's it.

For a year.

As for Miles, yeah, he was suspended for violating a restraining order.

Show me a link that says that.

There was zero action taken against him by the school or Calhoun for original violation which led to the order.

This is bizarrely stupid even by your standards. He violate the restraining order within hours of it being issued! Hilarious.

It was only after he ended up under arrest for violation that he was subject to any action by the University. Though in Calhoun's defense, he violated the order so quickly, within 15-20 minutes after he was notified, that maybe he didn't have time to take action...

Yeah, everyone would have gotten out of bed to immediately suspend him for twisting the girl's arm. If they only knew he would violate the restraining order instantly, they could have waited until he had done that!!

You went off the rails last year blasting Kevin Ollie and by now you're like one of the goes hand-pumping a trolley into some godforsaken nowhere of a desert.
 
I'm sorry to inform you of this and I'm very guilty of it. The AAU invite will be in the early 2020s if everything goes smooth. We're not as close as I and others here like to pump all over the internets. That's just a save face thing among Cr talk across boards. We have a long way to go. A lot of money to gain fund wise. There are 5 or 6 schools ahead of us on the list and 2 or 3 of those have upgrading conf eyes just like uconn does. Not to mention the aau doesnt like to grow. And money is tight. It's not happening soon. No matter how much I or oers here defend it and pump it. It's simply keeping us up in the world of Internet chatter and nothing more. It's the whole show a pulse thing. That's why a select couple here like fishy po po it and just straight up tell u guys the b10 is not happening.

That's the real world. Enjoy.

I'm going to moan and carry on because I saw this all coming and wated things different. Then it all happened and everyone here then thinks they know . We continue to stand still and do nothing.

You have yet to tell me what steps we have taken to help get into a athletic conference. The acc does not need AAU status. The b10 doesn't either technically. It's a nice measurement they talk up to feel special and separate themselves from the sec, but its not set in stone. Nebraska plays in the b10. Ge b10 tried to add Norte dame. Fantasy land you live in.

I may be a crazy drunk sob and love to rant and dream leagues up etc. but I actually live in reality and that simply is the leadership here sucks, we have no vision and no balls. End of story.

Now go ahead and try another argument and tell me what a bad guy I am and so on.

And while I'm at it I will beg this board one more time to stop with the paschal threads and arguing. I can fit out and said it in a thread over e winter what the deal was and what was going to happen. Yet everyone here would rather invite a bunch of shoebies over here to talk nonsense.

This board is unreal. Full of idiots, clowns and a couple stern truth tellers that don't want to chat in public any more.

I just want to yell really loud right now

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Just a suggestion. The booze is bringing you down too much.
 
LOL...he was suspended during a period he couldn't play anyway. Look it up. It is true. And for all your bluster you didn't know that and you're embarrassed...so his penalty was being suspended from school for a semester...that's it. The rest of the time he was either too ill to actually be there. And he was allowed back to the school for the Spring of 2006. He wasn't allowed back on the team but that was a meaningless penalty since he wasn't cleared to participate anyway. But I suppose that's more than enough in your eyes. As for Miles, yeah, he was suspended for violating a restraining order. Go back and read the reports on the incident. there was zero action taken against him by the school or Calhoun for original violation which led to the order. It was only after he ended up under arrest for violation that he was subject to any action by the University. Though in Calhoun's defense, he violated the order so quickly, within 15-20 minutes after he was notified, that maybe he didn't have time to take action...
You may be right on the timeline but since he was suspended for the entire season there actually was no need for clearance until he was returning to the team. If his suspension was less. medical clearance might have been expedited.
I agree Williams as the senior should have been more culpable. Did he lead Price astray or did Price influence him.
He was a senior star Price had never played a game.

The way that season played out it would have helped JC legacy if he lost his entire senior year.




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