Big Ten Source: League targeting OU, Texas for 2024-25

[DarthGrumpy]

Meh, if you survived South Campus Weekend, you could survive that.

The last year of old South Campus was also my Sophomore year and it was a blast as everyone knew it was being torn down, so the rules were very lax. Spent many nights giving it the proper send-off.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

I'm sorry Butch, but Yale Bowl is in New Haven, on the border of West Haven. I am from that area originally. Also, check Wikipedia, Yale Bowl.

Bingo, and Yale Field (baseball) and the adjoining cemetery just across Rt 34/Derby Avenue are in Waste Haven.

 

[Stinger92860]

One of my friends is an AD at an ACC school. He has told me that it is likely that anytime over the next couple of years that UConn will have one more opportunity to upgrade conference affiliation; when the opportunity comes, we need to be ready to pounce. He said the next move to happen will be either the Big10 or Pac12 expanding - the question is do they go to 14 or 16 members. There is some thought that the Pac12 will make the move 1st because the Pac12 folks feel more at risk & no one knows what the Big12 (even those in the Big12) may do. Texas & Oklahoma are looked at as key players. ND is also a wild card with their football status. It is likely that the next move will set of a flurry of activity that finalizes things. Of course, he also said that it only takes one maverick move & everything goes to hell in a handbag.....

Does your friend moonlight at a car wash?

 

[buddy]

Bingo, and Yale Field (baseball) and the adjoining cemetery just across Rt 34/Derby Avenue are in Waste Haven.

We weren't talking about Yale Field, but Yale Bowl. I agree though. The southbound side of Rte 34 is in West Haven, as opposed to Waste Haven LOL! The northbound side, where Yale Bowl sits is in New Haven.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

We weren't talking about Yale Field, but Yale Bowl. I agree though. The southbound side of Rte 34 is in West Haven, as opposed to Waste Haven LOL! The northbound side, where Yale Bowl sits is in New Haven.

No Shiite Charlene!

 

[DarthGrumpy]

We weren't talking about Yale Field, but Yale Bowl. I agree though. The southbound side of Rte 34 is in West Haven, as opposed to Waste Haven LOL! The northbound side, where Yale Bowl sits is in New Haven.

And if this wasn't the Northeast, New Haven would stretch from Milford to Branford plus all of North Haven and Hamden.

 

[huskyrob1]

From the OU Insider...

Big Ten Source: League targeting OU, Texas

The article says the source has targeted Oklahoma and Texas for addition to the Big Ten in 2024-25. The Big Ten will coordinate with Oklahoma when OU negotiates its third tier rights so that the next third deal rights agreement will be a short term deal that expires in 2024. It mentions the Longhorn Network as not being as big of a hurdle as once thought, as it is a losing proposition for both Disney and exposure for UT sports.

Everybody wants Texas and Oklahoma, PAC 12 has the jump on the Big Ten though. Oklahoma came oh so close to joining the PAC 12 in 2010. Not sure about Oklahoma but the SEC would love to cherry pick Texas.

 

[SouthronCross]

I doubt the ACC will ever let us join after BloomingIdiot sued them. I think the ACC would invite URI before us. BloomingIdiot burned our bridge to the ACC.

Time has healed a lot of those old wounds, IMHO. There is still support for UConn within the ACC. UVA, and, the NC schools, specifically. It is generally thought that FSU, Miami, GT, and, Clemson are against you. Not sure about the others.

 

[YoungFree]

Honestly, if the Big 12 loses OU and Texas, it may be open season on the Big 12. Additions of TCU and Baylor to the AAC would not be out of the question.

That said, I'll believe this OU/Texas story when I see it.

Getting TCU and Baylor in the fold would destroy the Mountain West as we could convince Boise State and maybe even Fresno State to bounce over. Then we could have a true East and West conference. Although, it wouldn't help with travel costs....at all.....

 

[YoungFree]

Everybody wants Texas and Oklahoma, PAC 12 has the jump on the Big Ten though. Oklahoma came oh so close to joining the PAC 12 in 2010. Not sure about Oklahoma but the SEC would love to cherry pick Texas.

The PAC 12 is more of a mess than the Big 12. The same issues that lead to its original split are causing rifts again. The northern and southern schools just don't get along. Everyone looks at the Big 12-Big Ten as triggers. I am hoping the PAC 12 crumbles into two conferences that leads to a dismantling of the Mountain West and Big 12...which would inevitably lead to a power struggle and the rise of 16 team mega conferences when the remaining P5 conferences and the AAC scramble to pick up the scraps.

Oh sorry, I was daydreaming again...

 

[Adios]

The PAC 12 is more of a mess than the Big 12. The same issues that lead to its original split are causing rifts again. The northern and southern schools just don't get along. Everyone looks at the Big 12-Big Ten as triggers. I am hoping the PAC 12 crumbles into two conferences that leads to a dismantling of the Mountain West and Big 12...which would inevitably lead to a power struggle and the rise of 16 team mega conferences when the remaining P5 conferences and the AAC scramble to pick up the scraps.

Oh sorry, I was daydreaming again...

Original split? I think the only schools the Pacific Coast Conference conference "kicked" out were Idaho and Montana.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

The PAC 12 is more of a mess than the Big 12. The same issues that lead to its original split are causing rifts again. The northern and southern schools just don't get along. Everyone looks at the Big 12-Big Ten as triggers. I am hoping the PAC 12 crumbles into two conferences that leads to a dismantling of the Mountain West and Big 12...which would inevitably lead to a power struggle and the rise of 16 team mega conferences when the remaining P5 conferences and the AAC scramble to pick up the scraps.

Oh sorry, I was daydreaming again...

I would think the Big Ten would love to get into California, especially since the Rose Bowl is there. They could then have full control of that bowl and invite whoever they want from the SEC, Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame, etc.. A Las Vegas bowl is also possible. The Big Ten would use the western locations as a draw, just like New Orleans and Atlanta are draws for the southern programs.

 

[huskyrob1]

The PAC 12 is more of a mess than the Big 12. The same issues that lead to its original split are causing rifts again. The northern and southern schools just don't get along. Everyone looks at the Big 12-Big Ten as triggers. I am hoping the PAC 12 crumbles into two conferences that leads to a dismantling of the Mountain West and Big 12...which would inevitably lead to a power struggle and the rise of 16 team mega conferences when the remaining P5 conferences and the AAC scramble to pick up the scraps.

Oh sorry, I was daydreaming again...

If the PAC 12 crumbles, where are they going to go? Australia? The Yukon? Outback Football, I love it.
UCSY (University of California at Sydney?). PAC 12 is pretty solid IMHO.

 

[JeepCSC]

Time has healed a lot of those old wounds, IMHO. There is still support for UConn within the ACC. UVA, and, the NC schools, specifically. It is generally thought that FSU, Miami, GT, and, Clemson are against you. Not sure about the others.

Those 3 (UVA/Duke/UNC) were the same ones for UConn last time. The UConn question has always been about the further South football contingent. Clemson and FSU are in the driver’s seat and they’ll get what they want. Of course what they want is ND. UConn’s best bet might be a few hail mary’s and bending the knee in Indiana to get ND in the mood for conference membership.

 

[buddy]

Once again, the only conference ND can join before 2036 is the ACC. This is very unlikely to occur. UConn can bend a knee wherever you want, but it will not make a difference.

 

[YoungFree]

Original split? I think the only schools the Pacific Coast Conference conference "kicked" out were Idaho and Montana.

True but it was always north vs. south

 

[YoungFree]

If the PAC 12 crumbles, where are they going to go? Australia? The Yukon? Outback Football, I love it.
UCSY (University of California at Sydney?). PAC 12 is pretty solid IMHO.

Big 12, Big Ten, Mountain West, AAC are all options.

If the Big 12 doesn't get anyone out west and can keep Oklahoma and Texas they should grab Cincy and Memphis for WVU travel partnerships.

Then you can have two new Pacific Conferences.

Southwest: Utah, Arizona State, USC, Arizona, UCLA, Utah State, San Diego State, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, Nevada, UNLV

Northwest: Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Oregon, California, Oregon State, Boise State, Fresno State, Wyoming, Air Force, San Jose State, Hawai'i

This would lead to a new AAC that has UCF, USF, Tulane, ECU, Navy, Tulsa, Buffalo, Temple, UConn, Houston, SMU, New Mexico, UMass, and Liberty. Conference USA would add Marshall to replace Buffalo and Conference USA would add New Mexico State.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Big 12, Big Ten, Mountain West, AAC are all options.

If the Big 12 doesn't get anyone out west and can keep Oklahoma and Texas they should grab Cincy and Memphis for WVU travel partnerships.

Then you can have two new Pacific Conferences.

Southwest: Utah, Arizona State, USC, Arizona, UCLA, Utah State, San Diego State, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, Nevada, UNLV

Northwest: Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Oregon, California, Oregon State, Boise State, Fresno State, Wyoming, Air Force, San Jose State, Hawai'i

This would lead to a new AAC that has UCF, USF, Tulane, ECU, Navy, Tulsa, Buffalo, Temple, UConn, Houston, SMU, New Mexico, UMass, and Liberty. Conference USA would add Marshall to replace Buffalo and Conference USA would add New Mexico State.

Remember, the PAC is more like the B1G than the SEC and XII as academics to matter in terms of dollars and pride. There are a lot of research dollars, private funding, business networks, alumni, etc. at play, especially in Seattle, San Francisco/Bay Area and LA. The big research universities (U Washington, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, and USC) are not going to want to be separated from those sources. Oregon, Arizona, and Arizona St are also heavily reliant on admissions from out-of-state students (it's estimated that neary 40% of U Oregon students are from Washington and California while Californian's make-up close to 33% of Arizona State's student body. Those are serious numbers and while the PAC may 'merge' with another conference, it won't be broken-up.

 

[JeepCSC]

Once again, the only conference ND can join before 2036 is the ACC. This is very unlikely to occur. UConn can bend a knee wherever you want, but it will not make a difference.

Of course ND can only join the ACC, that isn’t the question. The question is how best to get in a UConn that FSU/Clemson obviously look down on. Again, the best shot is to convince ND to join in football and that UConn is their best dance partner. FSU would hand deliver the invitation to Storrs if the Leprechaun asked.

 

[billybud]

I suppose that convincing Notre Dame would be actually convincing ESPN....who would advise on who the dance partner that would bring the highest return would be.

Sentiment rarely overturns the $$ in such decisions.

I suppose if it was Notre Dame's sentiment only, they might want Navy.....93 seasons meeting in a row...

 

[ThetaZoo]

I suppose that convincing Notre Dame would be actually convincing ESPN....who would advise on who the dance partner that would bring the highest return would be.

Sentiment rarely overturns the $$ in such decisions.

I suppose if it was Notre Dame's sentiment only, they might want Navy.....93 seasons meeting in a row...

Yes, ESPN could find a soft landing for UConn if they wanted to when the next round of media deals are made but alas, it's not in their self-interest.

 

[CL82]

If the Big 12 doesn't get anyone out west and can keep Oklahoma and Texas they should grab Cincy and Memphis for WVU travel partnerships. This would lead to a new AAC that has UCF, USF, Tulane, ECU, Navy, Tulsa, Buffalo, Temple, UConn, Houston, SMU, New Mexico, UMass, and Liberty.

 

[bobbyinaz]

Of course ND can only join the ACC, that isn’t the question. The question is how best to get in a UConn that FSU/Clemson obviously look down on. Again, the best shot is to convince ND to join in football and that UConn is their best dance partner. FSU would hand deliver the invitation to Storrs if the Leprechaun asked.

As has been said numerous times on the BY over the years, the worst position to be in regarding Conference Realignment is to be Notre Dame's +1.

You keep saying the best chance is for the ACC to get ND to join for football when there is no logical reason for them to do that.

They just proved that they can make the 4 team playoff without being a conference member and if/when the playoffs expand it will provide them with more access.

Waiting on ND to join the ACC is not a solution for UConn

 

[JeepCSC]

As has been said numerous times on the BY over the years, the worst position to be in regarding Conference Realignment is to be Notre Dame's +1.

You keep saying the best chance is for the ACC to get ND to join for football when there is no logical reason for them to do that.

They just proved that they can make the 4 team playoff without being a conference member and if/when the playoffs expand it will provide them with more access.

Waiting on ND to join the ACC is not a solution for UConn

I didn’t say it was an easy solution. Merely, in all likelihood, the only solution as it relates to the ACC. The football schools are running the ACC now. UConn being wanted by UNC/Duke/Virginia is likely a hindrance at this point. UConn needs ND to champion them because ND is the only voice FSU/Clemson would likely listen to now. But as you said, it doesn’t seem likely.

The B10 is probably an easier scenario to imagine, though they have several directions they can go in so.

 

[huskyrob1]

Of course ND can only join the ACC, that isn’t the question. The question is how best to get in a UConn that FSU/Clemson obviously look down on. Again, the best shot is to convince ND to join in football and that UConn is their best dance partner. FSU would hand deliver the invitation to Storrs if the Leprechaun asked.

For all intents and purposes ND is a full ACC member now. Officially they are full members in everything except football, and even in football they usually play 5 or 6 games with ACC teams anyway every season.

 

[JeepCSC]

For all intents and purposes ND is a full ACC member now. Officially they are full members in everything except football, and even in football they usually play 5 or 6 games with ACC teams anyway every season.

If they were a full member, the ACC would be adding a 16th team. In this particular case, those extra 3 football games are of enormous importance to a school like UConn.

 

[huskyrob1]

If they were a full member, the ACC would be adding a 16th team. In this particular case, those extra 3 football games are of enormous importance to a school like UConn.

They can't add a 16th team until football officially moves over, at least I think so.

 

[dayooper]

For all intents and purposes ND is a full ACC member now. Officially they are full members in everything except football, and even in football they usually play 5 or 6 games with ACC teams anyway every season.

Those games are considered out of conference and ND can't participate in the ACC championship game. The 5 games are the tradeoff so ND can plant their other sports in the conference. If they were full members, they would have either played Clemson in the regular season or in the championship game.

 

[methodology]

Yeah, I think the ACC would pressure Notre Dame for a full-time answer but it's really hard to see ND joining any conference after this year's Playoff Committee decision. If the Big 12 dissolves, WVU makes sense there too. Of course, Cincinnati would be in the discussion.

I would LOVE to see UConn make a significant football statement soon. I know it won't happen...we have a part-time hockey arena to build...but it's nice to dream!

WVU seems like a perfect fit for the SEC if the big XII dissolved and SEC wanted to expand

 

[Adios]

I wouldn't be surprised if Oklahoma gets an invite to the SEC.