I’m reminded when Donny Marshall didn’t get named to any of the Big East teams and then completely went off in the Big East tournament. I’m not saying that’s necessarily going to happen, but, Evina can make a point if she wants to.Congrats to all players. Evina should have won one.
While Ducharme was very good when she finally broke out, she did miss a handful of games to injury late in the year & some early due to freshman status pre-Paige/Azzi injuries. Missed games is presumably the reason Azzi didn’t receive any award recognition aside from All-Freshman.It would be somewhat ironic if Evina Westbrook is the highest WNBA draft choice from the Big East, after not receiving any recognition. I think she earned at least sixth player of the year.
I don't think Kelly did -- she was DPOY and I think tied for most improved her senior year. I'm reasonably sure Kiah Stokes was DPOY without making first or second team all-BigE.Nika has certainly been a pest and hounded other teams ballhandlers to death, but haven't people on this forum, and I think Geno, been saying Williams is our best defender, we put her on the other teams top scorer, etc. If so, why is she not the defensive POY? Maybe she is just most versatile defender because of her size? But as noted, I do love Nika's defense and her hustle and enthusiasm. Has a defensive POY ever not been on one of the all big east teams, not even honorable mention? Did Farris make an all BE team?
Yeah, pretty good for someone who can never stay in front of her mark and only defends by fouling.Who said Muhl's defense is overrated??!!
Re Williams vs Nika for the award: Big East coaches vote for the award winners and in their eyes Nika was defensive best. I have to agree.Nika has certainly been a pest and hounded other teams ballhandlers to death, but haven't people on this forum, and I think Geno, been saying Williams is our best defender, we put her on the other teams top scorer, etc. If so, why is she not the defensive POY? Maybe she is just most versatile defender because of her size? But as noted, I do love Nika's defense and her hustle and enthusiasm. Has a defensive POY ever not been on one of the all big east teams, not even honorable mention? Did Farris make an all BE team?
Yeah the reclusive Pennyfeather started a long line of exceptional New York State high school basketball champions: Chamique, Sue Bird, Tina Charles, Stef Dolson, Bria Hartley, Breanna Stewart et al" I wish I could have seen Shelly Pennefather play."
She was a great one. I think that a good "UCONN comp" would be Kerry Bascom.
I was thinking the same thing, Nan--at least second team. I'm not saying anyone was not deserving but that's just strange. Additionally, if Caroline and Azzi had full seasons, IMO both would have been 1st team as well...It’s also ironic that the Defensive POY isn’t on the All Big East team. We know what we have in Nika . We have Nika and they don’t
Yeah! I noted that too, but thought I'd missed something when I read the awards. Is it possible this is a BIg East practice/tradition that the POY and DPOY are not included on the FIrst (or second or third) team?So, do I understand this right? Maddy Siegrist is the Big East Player of the Year, but she's not on the All Big East First Team? How does that happen?
Ahhh, I did miss something!!!See post #37 above.
I am admittedly biased because I am a big fan of Nikia, but I think the difference in her and CW is that CW is a great individual defender while Nakia was the catalyst for UConn's team defense and made more visual, impactful plays such as steals for a basket. When asked to stop the opponent's best scorer, CW is that stopper, which is why Geno coined her the team's best defender. . Both are very valuable, but Nakia set the defensive tone for entire season when she was inserted into the lineup....Re Williams vs Nika for the award: Big East coaches vote for the award winners and in their eyes Nika was defensive best. I have to agree.
Yeah, pretty good for someone who can never stay in front of her mark and only defends by fouling.
That is intentional. The POY is not eligible; a way to spread the wealth.So, do I understand this right? Maddy Siegrist is the Big East Player of the Year, but she's not on the All Big East First Team? How does that happen?
Your assumption is correctThe only thing I can think of is that the conference views these two awards SEPARATELY. There can only be 1 POY. There are 5 first team players that comprise a team or a "group" award.
In theory, the POY is "THE BEST" of this group, but is listed and recognized separately, and is given her own award. In my mind, there are 6 players that are on that first team. The POY, and the 5 other players named.
Thoughts?
Nice backhanded compliment to Nika(?) Glad you think "...and Nika generally does very well in Big East games" after pointing out three teammates that in your opinion were probably better. It seems the coaches in the league including Geno rate her defensive value a bit higher, but what do they know... A simple congrats to one of our players on being recognized would be a great response imo.Those 1st 6 games Paige was our best defender and the rest of the year CW was up there. I think a strong case overall could be made for Liv as the league's best defender. A lot of this stuff is impressions during Big East games and Nika generally does very well in Big East games. They all are very good defenders.
I have little doubt that, if healthy and given PT, both Caroline and Azzi would have been 1st team overall. Paige is the only guard in this league that's better IMO.
Game after game Christyn gets the toughest defensive assignment covering the opposing team’s best offensive threat at g/w. I think that speaks to Geno’s feelings about Christyn’s defensive ability.I don't think I've seen Geno say that CWill is our best defender. I saw him say Paige was, and that CWill improved, but not best.
Personally, I thought Nika was our best defender this year. And I'm certainly happy that she was recognized because she's a player who some don't value. She reminds me of Kelly Farris, but has the potential to be an even better player because she's a point guard. (It's really a shame Kelly could never make that transition)