That’s what matters. This is not good news until we see the $$$.Will UConn get more money?!?!!
That’s what matters. This is not good news until we see the $$$.Will UConn get more money?!?!!
Fanta works for fox, not the conference. It’s literally in his interest to say the deal is good.I'm optimistic about the team, often. But Fanta works for the conference. His job is to hype it up and potentially soften the blow.
He also works for the Big East Digital Network. His "big break" was hosting Big East Shootaround for the conference, then parlayed that job into a job covering the league for Fox. He still does streaming events directly for the Big East like Media Day and postgame at the BET which are not through Fox. 2 weeks ago he interviewed Karaban for the Big East YouTube page. Etc.Fanta works for fox, not the conference. It’s literally in his interest to say the deal is good.
Peacock has a much better list of movies than Netflix. Sure they don’t pump out crap the same way but for a strong suit of films, they are very solid. Better than Paramount+.Peacock gets a bad rap but it has some decent content. Old shows, originals, and sports. Use the app more than some of the other "bigger" named apps.
I apologize for editorializing and using the term "death spiral" instead of just repeating "ticket to oblivion" word for word. Vastly distinct concepts and your point was entirely misrepresented to anyone reading my prose.
You said someone else looked foolish for their comments. I said I wouldn't judge someone else for looking foolish when you are the one arguing essentially opposite points in the same thread. Saying "No sports fan is going to subscribe to these to watch the Big East" which is a problem because (we all agree) the Big East needs to grow its popularity. And at the same time also arguing "I guess you haven't noticed that this whole thread is about Peacock getting jammed down everyone's throat." How can the ability to grow the league's popularity be a problem if (as you argue in this thread) a ton of people have access to Peacock for free and it's in a TON of homes?
If the argument is that those casual/free subs won't watch Big East basketball, well I have news for you about how many cable subscribers channel surf to Fox Sports 2. At any rate, it's the job of the league to convert them and that's not really hindered by being on a popular streaming platform (considering there weren't really any options to get any bigger of a platform for the league).
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And what would be deemed a good deal ? Would $6 Million a team, $8 Million a team or $10 Million a team per year be considered a good deal ?That’s what matters. This is not good news until we see the $$$.
Nah, im good. Im an adult.pirated streams
Hoping its 8 million +. This deal is not bad. We could potentially play games on big CBS, NBC, and FOX as well as TNT. I could see TNT have a show with Barkley, Kellogg, etc. tied to it. It would be good for TNT to keep a little college basketball momentum going into the NCAA tournament.
I mean, what do you realistically expect?It's telling how we are crossing our fingers for a bit over 8 mil when a program like BC is getting 30 mil+, Vandy 50 mil +, Northwestern and Rutgers 50 Mil +, Cinci 35 mil + etc etc etc.
I have no expectations. It's just shocking how much more football is valued than basketball. I look forward to football season more each year, though I am big into basketball, too. It's shocking to see what even mediocre football can bring an athletic program money-wise and viewer-wise over legendary basketball programs.I mean, what do you realistically expect?
If we end up on Peacock we deserve a double share. They need us way more than we need them. Let's see the details but I'm guessing some will be highly annoyed. As others have mentioned money is important. But in the context of basketball a top 10 team expects exposure unless you're getting top dollar for a P4 football conference revenue. Then it doesn't matter as much. A few thousand UConn fans may want to subscribe, but that's not the bigger picture. Does it help or hurt our ability to promote the program and lure recruits? That's the important question.Would it be arrogant if we demanded a greater share than our Big East brethren? We are after all the king of college hoops.
Not arrogant. It would be flat out stupid.Would it be arrogant if we demanded a greater share than our Big East brethren? We are after all the king of college hoops.
To get more money than DePaul? Do explain.Not arrogant. It would be flat out stupid.
It's not mediocre football bringing in the money, though. It's the conference. It just so happens that programs like Vandy and Northwestern were grandfathered in, and that BC was added at a time when UConn football had just upgraded.I have no expectations. It's just shocking how much more football is valued than basketball. I look forward to football season more each year, though I am big into basketball, too. It's shocking to see what even mediocre football can bring an athletic program money-wise and viewer-wise over legendary basketball programs.
Agree, but I'd rather have a good TV deal and seven titles.Guess what: I’d rather have a crappy TV deal and 6 titles
Look. I have nothing against Cincy. UConn and the Bearcats have had a strange fraternity in all the conference re-org stuff.
Are you aware of how many of those subscriptions are free for peacock? I have it free, you join Comcast rewards and there it is. I wouldn't pay for it otherwise as I'm sure millions of others wouldn't either.
Now, how many total TV households were there in 1980-81 compared to today?
And you can go to any history book about the Big East to know ESPN gets the biggest credit for making the league the giant it quickly became. You are looking foolish here.
And the red headed father took off and went to LA.Lol @ "our".
Cincinnati is the redheaded stepchild of that conference.
the irony of this is hysterical!
our new (power conference) tv deal starting next year is what’s booting the church league off of fox/fs1.
you can’t make this up!
Nah, im good. Im an adult.
I have two in college, and they mostly use Netfilx. They or their friends have become creative when finding content (I don't understand how and got lost when they tried to tell me). Add in that they are in college and have limited time to watch tv other than what is must see.That's where we are headed for ALL tv/sports. Like it or not (and I'm not saying I like it). I "cut the cord" years ago. The only reason I still have YouTubeTV for live tv is that I want the sports and news channels. I'm paying way too much for that and would love to cancel, but I'm not ready for that yet. My son will watch sports on YTTV, but he doesn't flip around. He puts on a specific game. So sometimes he's on Peacock or ESPN+ for soccer games, sometimes on YTTV. To him, it's all the same. My daughter has never used her YTTV log in. They are going to college next year. I was curious what college kids do for tv. They literally didn't care. They figured they have netflix, MAX, Peacock, etc. and don't care about live tv.
I'd actually be more worried if we were on some crappy network that didn't have a streaming option. I don't know how much we're getting for this deal, but that's more important than where it's televised.
Would it be arrogant if we demanded a greater share than our Big East brethren? We are after all the king of college hoops.
Not arrogant. It would be flat out stupid.
To get more money than DePaul? Do explain.
I am hoping for rights for our women’s basketball none conference gamesDemanding uneven media revenue sharing from the conference may be something we consider but it will lead to one of two outcomes:
1 - They refuse upfront, which we really can't do much in response to as we currently have little in terms of options.
2 - They agree, on the condition that our departure fee increases significantly, which would at best neutralze (financially) the benefit of additional revenues prior to our departure.
We need to show some diplomacy here. It may not hurt to mention our role in the overall value of the media deal but all parties are fully aware that we will leave in a heartbeat if something better comes along,
0% chance this deal is going up 300-400%. It'll go up 80% and Val will call that a massive win for the league.I can stomach it if it means the TV deal is between $12M-$15M per year for UConn. We need the cash. Otherwise it’s a huge middle finger to the fans by Commissioner Val
the irony of this is hysterical!
our new (power conference) tv deal starting next year is what’s booting the church league off of fox/fs1.
you can’t make this up!
Since we don't know the terms as yet, I will refrain until we see them
Boston College too. Great company to be apart ofThe "my team is terrible but they happened to be added to a power conference so let me go to a champion's message board and brag about money that isn't mine" move has a distinct Rutgers vibe. Congrats on being the Rutgers of the Big 12.