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Big East TV Deal with FOX, TNT, and NBC

I'm optimistic about the team, often. But Fanta works for the conference. His job is to hype it up and potentially soften the blow.
Fanta works for fox, not the conference. It’s literally in his interest to say the deal is good.
 
Fanta works for fox, not the conference. It’s literally in his interest to say the deal is good.
He also works for the Big East Digital Network. His "big break" was hosting Big East Shootaround for the conference, then parlayed that job into a job covering the league for Fox. He still does streaming events directly for the Big East like Media Day and postgame at the BET which are not through Fox. 2 weeks ago he interviewed Karaban for the Big East YouTube page. Etc.
 
Peacock gets a bad rap but it has some decent content. Old shows, originals, and sports. Use the app more than some of the other "bigger" named apps.
Peacock has a much better list of movies than Netflix. Sure they don’t pump out crap the same way but for a strong suit of films, they are very solid. Better than Paramount+.
 
I apologize for editorializing and using the term "death spiral" instead of just repeating "ticket to oblivion" word for word. Vastly distinct concepts and your point was entirely misrepresented to anyone reading my prose.

You said someone else looked foolish for their comments. I said I wouldn't judge someone else for looking foolish when you are the one arguing essentially opposite points in the same thread. Saying "No sports fan is going to subscribe to these to watch the Big East" which is a problem because (we all agree) the Big East needs to grow its popularity. And at the same time also arguing "I guess you haven't noticed that this whole thread is about Peacock getting jammed down everyone's throat." How can the ability to grow the league's popularity be a problem if (as you argue in this thread) a ton of people have access to Peacock for free and it's in a TON of homes?

If the argument is that those casual/free subs won't watch Big East basketball, well I have news for you about how many cable subscribers channel surf to Fox Sports 2. At any rate, it's the job of the league to convert them and that's not really hindered by being on a popular streaming platform (considering there weren't really any options to get any bigger of a platform for the league).

Well I still think you are stretching things here. In this post you omitted the part where I said who the peacock subscribers are, why and what they are there for, which is pretty darn central for what I'm saying. It doesn't matter how many subscribers there are if they don't even have an awareness for CBB. So no they are not opposite points at all.
Their paid subscriber base was ridiculed until they added the soccer and NFL, and that's what they are there for. And they can and do leave when their sports or teams are finished. Even with that they are one of the lower sized streamers.

And yes, I am aware of the fs1 problem, for which I was hoping for something on the ESPN side to happen

Really I keep stating I want to see what actually goes down at this point. It's done it seems. I had no confidence in this commissioner and this announcement only seems fitting to me. I hope it provides a ton of money and our games in particular are on the big networks. We deserve to have the biggest showcase for our teams. I think that is something we can agree on.
 
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That’s what matters. This is not good news until we see the $$$.
And what would be deemed a good deal ? Would $6 Million a team, $8 Million a team or $10 Million a team per year be considered a good deal ?
 
We didnt want ESPN to add the Big East. If they want UConn they gotta add them to the ACC and not just get them at a discount via taking the whole conference
 
Hoping its 8 million +. This deal is not bad. We could potentially play games on big CBS, NBC, and FOX as well as TNT. I could see TNT have a show with Barkley, Kellogg, etc. tied to it. It would be good for TNT to keep a little college basketball momentum going into the NCAA tournament.

It's telling how we are crossing our fingers for a bit over 8 mil when a program like BC is getting 30 mil+, Vandy 50 mil +, Northwestern and Rutgers 50 Mil +, Cinci 35 mil + etc etc etc.
 
It's telling how we are crossing our fingers for a bit over 8 mil when a program like BC is getting 30 mil+, Vandy 50 mil +, Northwestern and Rutgers 50 Mil +, Cinci 35 mil + etc etc etc.
I mean, what do you realistically expect?
 
I mean, what do you realistically expect?
I have no expectations. It's just shocking how much more football is valued than basketball. I look forward to football season more each year, though I am big into basketball, too. It's shocking to see what even mediocre football can bring an athletic program money-wise and viewer-wise over legendary basketball programs.
 
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Would it be arrogant if we demanded a greater share than our Big East brethren? We are after all the king of college hoops.
 
Would it be arrogant if we demanded a greater share than our Big East brethren? We are after all the king of college hoops.
If we end up on Peacock we deserve a double share. They need us way more than we need them. Let's see the details but I'm guessing some will be highly annoyed. As others have mentioned money is important. But in the context of basketball a top 10 team expects exposure unless you're getting top dollar for a P4 football conference revenue. Then it doesn't matter as much. A few thousand UConn fans may want to subscribe, but that's not the bigger picture. Does it help or hurt our ability to promote the program and lure recruits? That's the important question.
 
I have no expectations. It's just shocking how much more football is valued than basketball. I look forward to football season more each year, though I am big into basketball, too. It's shocking to see what even mediocre football can bring an athletic program money-wise and viewer-wise over legendary basketball programs.
It's not mediocre football bringing in the money, though. It's the conference. It just so happens that programs like Vandy and Northwestern were grandfathered in, and that BC was added at a time when UConn football had just upgraded.

The entire Boston College campus could drift into the Atlantic Ocean tomorrow and the ACC would become more valuable by not having them.
 
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Look. I have nothing against Cincy. UConn and the Bearcats have had a strange fraternity in all the conference re-org stuff.
Also, they know the pain of successful coaches leaving the program, one even left right before a national championship game.
We were almost in that situation so I for one will not throw gas on this fire. It hits too close home. Maybe the scary mojo gods at UConn have finally left, but I'm gonna respect the karma gods. You can all thank me later.
 
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Are you aware of how many of those subscriptions are free for peacock? I have it free, you join Comcast rewards and there it is. I wouldn't pay for it otherwise as I'm sure millions of others wouldn't either.

Now, how many total TV households were there in 1980-81 compared to today?

And you can go to any history book about the Big East to know ESPN gets the biggest credit for making the league the giant it quickly became. You are looking foolish here.

I believe I got Peacock through my chase sapphire card which got me a free year of Instacart and a free year of Instacart gets you a year of peacock. Explores this loophole during NFL playoffs.
 
the irony of this is hysterical!

our new (power conference) tv deal starting next year is what’s booting the church league off of fox/fs1.

you can’t make this up!

We have rings, and you get to play KU in both basketball and football

Where to you think a sportsFAN wants to land?

Rhetorical question really. Then again, you seem to think we care about wannabes who like to rub elbows with NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

I have been to KU's board, UK's, Cuse's, conference members and tournament opponents. Never found it necessary to visit Bearcat Blues Clues

Butt Hey, remember the Big O? Although even he wouldn't choose Cinci in 2024.
 
That's where we are headed for ALL tv/sports. Like it or not (and I'm not saying I like it). I "cut the cord" years ago. The only reason I still have YouTubeTV for live tv is that I want the sports and news channels. I'm paying way too much for that and would love to cancel, but I'm not ready for that yet. My son will watch sports on YTTV, but he doesn't flip around. He puts on a specific game. So sometimes he's on Peacock or ESPN+ for soccer games, sometimes on YTTV. To him, it's all the same. My daughter has never used her YTTV log in. They are going to college next year. I was curious what college kids do for tv. They literally didn't care. They figured they have netflix, MAX, Peacock, etc. and don't care about live tv.

I'd actually be more worried if we were on some crappy network that didn't have a streaming option. I don't know how much we're getting for this deal, but that's more important than where it's televised.
I have two in college, and they mostly use Netfilx. They or their friends have become creative when finding content (I don't understand how and got lost when they tried to tell me). Add in that they are in college and have limited time to watch tv other than what is must see.
 
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Would it be arrogant if we demanded a greater share than our Big East brethren? We are after all the king of college hoops.

Not arrogant. It would be flat out stupid.

To get more money than DePaul? Do explain.

Demanding uneven media revenue sharing from the conference may be something we consider but it will lead to one of two outcomes:

1 - They refuse upfront, which we really can't do much in response to as we currently have little in terms of options.
2 - They agree, on the condition that our departure fee increases significantly, which would at best neutralze (financially) the benefit of additional revenues prior to our departure.

We need to show some diplomacy here. It may not hurt to mention our role in the overall value of the media deal but all parties are fully aware that we will leave in a heartbeat if something better comes along,
 
Demanding uneven media revenue sharing from the conference may be something we consider but it will lead to one of two outcomes:

1 - They refuse upfront, which we really can't do much in response to as we currently have little in terms of options.
2 - They agree, on the condition that our departure fee increases significantly, which would at best neutralze (financially) the benefit of additional revenues prior to our departure.

We need to show some diplomacy here. It may not hurt to mention our role in the overall value of the media deal but all parties are fully aware that we will leave in a heartbeat if something better comes along,
I am hoping for rights for our women’s basketball none conference games
 
I can stomach it if it means the TV deal is between $12M-$15M per year for UConn. We need the cash. Otherwise it’s a huge middle finger to the fans by Commissioner Val
0% chance this deal is going up 300-400%. It'll go up 80% and Val will call that a massive win for the league.
 
the irony of this is hysterical!

our new (power conference) tv deal starting next year is what’s booting the church league off of fox/fs1.

you can’t make this up!

The "my team is terrible but they happened to be added to a power conference so let me go to a champion's message board and brag about money that isn't mine" move has a distinct Rutgers vibe. Congrats on being the Rutgers of the Big 12.
 
The "my team is terrible but they happened to be added to a power conference so let me go to a champion's message board and brag about money that isn't mine" move has a distinct Rutgers vibe. Congrats on being the Rutgers of the Big 12.
Boston College too. Great company to be apart of
 
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