Big East TV Deal with FOX, TNT, and NBC

[huskymedic]

 

[Ha Who]

Cute article, but I don’t think the guy is real knowledgeable

 

[NJHusky]

It's clear the football schools are holding the NCAA hostage NOT because football is that much more popular, but because they can.

It's the power dynamic.

They've not only forced the NCAA into funding itself exclusively with basketball tournament revenue, but they are taking the money from the men's and women's tournament and using it to pay top football players demanding NIL money from the distant past.

If basketball didn't have to pay the bills for ALL NCAA sports, it would be worth a heckuva lot more.

the non p4 schools are a majority...why don't they vote to stop funding the ncaa with bball money?

 

[NowInStorrs]

the non p4 schools are a majority...why don't they vote to stop funding the ncaa with bball money?

That might lead to the big football schools splitting sooner rather than later.

 

[NJHusky]

That might lead to the big football schools splitting sooner rather than later.

if it's going to happen...pull off the band aid

 

[upstater]

That might lead to the big football schools splitting sooner rather than later.

If the big football schools do that, they'll be on the hook for the entire amount of the lawsuit.

But the ship has sailed, Charlie Baker went with the football schools.

There has never been a better moment for leverage for the non-P4 schools in the entire existence of the NCAA, and they completely folded.

Do they hope they will still be part of it all in 10 years when the payouts cease?

 

[Waquoit]

stupid if we did or stupid if we didnt?

what are the teams that get less revenue gonna do about it? leave for the A10?

UConn is lucky the Big East didn't talk like that when it started.

 

[bendm]

UConn is lucky the Big East didn't talk like that when it started.

that was then and this is now. we're talking about our survival here not being greedy. we have a much more expensive athletic dept to run than the other BE members.

 

[freescooter]

That might lead to the big football schools splitting sooner rather than later.

And with 8 people watching the NCAA tournament without Duke Kentucky, North Carolina, Virginia, Baylor, et al it would be worth less than the a DePaul Georgetown game in March so funding the NCAA wouldn’t be an issue.

 

[huskyjawz]

And with 8 people watching the NCAA tournament without Duke Kentucky, North Carolina, Virginia, Baylor, et al it would be worth less than the a DePaul Georgetown game in March so funding the NCAA wouldn’t be an issue.

We already have that; it's called the NIT.

 

[auror]

the non p4 schools are a majority...why don't they vote to stop funding the ncaa with bball money?

How would they fund the NCAA? There's no other money that the NCAA controls.

 

[NJHusky]

How would they fund the NCAA? There's no other money that the NCAA controls.

Exactly

 

[upstater]

How would they fund the NCAA? There's no other money that the NCAA controls.

If the P4 think running championships in other sports is worthwhile, they can use football revenues to pay for it.

This is all easy to do. CFP makes a certain amount per year, so does the NCAAT. Take whatever % of each that is needed.

 

[freescooter]

If the P4 think running championships in other sports is worthwhile, they can use football revenues to pay for it.

This is all easy to do. CFP makes a certain amount per year, so does the NCAAT. Take whatever % of each that is needed.

They absolutely could and those championships would absolutely be viewed as the true National Championships. They would get the coverage and media hype and money. UNC-Michigan will always out Draw UConn-San Diego State. And that is the fundamental problem the no -P4 leagues have. They might have the votes but they don’t have the leverage to use them.

 

[CL82]

If the P4 think running championships in other sports is worthwhile, they can use football revenues to pay for it.

This is all easy to do. CFP makes a certain amount per year, so does the NCAAT. Take whatever % of each that is needed.

"Alex, I will take "things that make sense but will never happen" for $400 please."

 

[giddyup]

Just sick and tired of the streaming service nonsense. It’s so consumer unfriendly it’s a joke.

 

[FearThePups]

It's telling how we are crossing our fingers for a bit over 8 mil when a program like BC is getting 30 mil+, Vandy 50 mil +, Northwestern and Rutgers 50 Mil +, Cinci 35 mil + etc etc etc.

We all know football drives the big money. We have 2 ways to go to have our athletic program be solvent, join a P4 or drop football.

 

[FearThePups]

Hope not. That would be a disaster for the football program.

Don’t know if you realize this but our football team is already a disaster.

 

[upstater]

They absolutely could and those championships would absolutely be viewed as the true National Championships. They would get the coverage and media hype and money. UNC-Michigan will always out Draw UConn-San Diego State. And that is the fundamental problem the no -P4 leagues have. They might have the votes but they don’t have the leverage to use them.

I don't think the tournament you have in mind makes that money. People would not have the same level of interest, especially as the Big 2 conferences would demand that 3/4 of each conference made the tournament. And it would be right after their conference tournaments?

You can see how unappealing this all is.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Can we have one thread about the Big East not turn Apocalyptic?

 

[willie99]

Not sure why this needs to be said, but it evidently does. March Madness will not be the same if only 4 major conferences are involved.

Are we watching? Not me, and not half the country, maybe more. Then we'll have competing touraments, with two national champions. Yes Big East teams have 5 titles in 10 years, more than any other conference. With half of those power conferences being shut out

How many teams participate in that tournament? 32? Eight from each? LMAO

Just not happening people

Now, back to the thread title. The Big East is GETTING MORE MONEY, and will continue to get more money every cycle

That's a good thing

 

[CL82]

We all know football drives the big money. We have 2 ways to go to have our athletic program be solvent, join a P4 or drop football.

You may want to take a look at the athletic balance sheet if you believe that dropping football would make us "solvent". (I think what you're trying to say Is that dropping football would cause us to operate breakeven or a surplus. That's not correct either.)

 

[uconnfan68]

Poor research. We didn’t flee, we were pushed out because we played football.

 

[uconnfan68]

They absolutely could and those championships would absolutely be viewed as the true National Championships. They would get the coverage and media hype and money. UNC-Michigan will always out Draw UConn-San Diego State. And that is the fundamental problem the no -P4 leagues have. They might have the votes but they don’t have the leverage to use them.

Not in my house.

 

[FearThePups]

You may want to take a look at the athletic balance sheet if you believe that dropping football would make us "solvent". (I think what you're trying to say Is that dropping football would cause us to operate breakeven or a surplus. That's not correct either.)

Yes, you stated that correctly. Basketball generated $10.6M in 2023 revenue while football lost $13M. This is the trend I was trying to point out. Our football program does not sustain itself and adds to the deficit year after year. It’s not a sound strategy.

 

[CL82]

Yes, you stated that correctly. Basketball generated $10.6M in 2023 revenue while football lost $13M. This is the trend I was trying to point out. Our football program does not sustain itself and adds to the deficit year after year. It’s not a sound strategy.

Do you have a link to those figures?

The total net loss for the athletic department was well in excess of the $13 million you tribute to Football. I know for the 2022 budget the total deficit was approximately $53 million.

 

[jostar1]

Yes, you stated that correctly. Basketball generated $10.6M in 2023 revenue while football lost $13M. This is the trend I was trying to point out. Our football program does not sustain itself and adds to the deficit year after year. It’s not a sound strategy.

It's the only strategy that gets us in to a power conference. Looks like there may be changes in the power conferences and hopefully an opportunity for UConn to get invited. So we carry on for now.

 

[FearThePups]

Do you have a link to those figures?

The total net loss for the athletic department was well in excess of the $13 million you tribute to Football. I know for the 2022 budget the total deficit was approximately $53 million.

A bit of a long article but it’s in here.

UConn cuts athletic budget deficit as school reports revenue increase in financial report to NCAA

The UConn athletic department reduced direct institutional support by 35 percent in the 2023 fiscal year, down to $30.2 million.

www.ctinsider.com

 

[FearThePups]

A bit of a long article but it’s in here.

UConn cuts athletic budget deficit as school reports revenue increase in financial report to NCAA

The UConn athletic department reduced direct institutional support by 35 percent in the 2023 fiscal year, down to $30.2 million.

www.ctinsider.com

I think the $53M you mentioned is the subsidy amount the school gets.
The overall subsidy, with student fees taken into account, was $53 million in 2022 and $35.8 in 2023.
Whether it’s $50 million or $30 million, such subsidies are always going to be met with skepticism by factions of the tax-paying public. UConn athletics has, though, generated more money in recent years, capitalizing most recently on the success of the men’s basketball program, which generated $10.6 million in 2023.
Per the article, Football operated at a $14 million deficit in 2023. That’s all I had said.

 

[Sole]

It's the only strategy that gets us in to a power conference. Looks like there may be changes in the power conferences and hopefully an opportunity for UConn to get invited. So we carry on for now.

We are in a power conference