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Big East TV Deal with FOX, TNT, and NBC

king conn said:
Read what I said

To repeat, if you are a well established league, you can get away with it

In addition, they are getting paid probably 10 times what we will get for this
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How many decades before the Big East is an established league?
 
GoConn said:
Fanta is on twitter spaces saying that he can't give numbers but Big East schools are going to be happy with the $$$ from the deal.
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Wow.. that is really nice to hear… we need a good tv deal
 
McLovin said:
Big East schools, with their $1 billion endowment funds, will be happy with just about anything from the media deal lmao. What I want to know is will UConn be happy (given the circumstances)
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UConn knows the value of the contract which is why they were comfortable offering Hurley a big raise.
 
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UConnJim said:
You do realize this deal is for BOTH men's and women's basketball? The vast majority of men's basketball games will be on linear TV and in the past TNT has put games on both linear TV and MAX. Peacock is new, but the Big 10 had 35 men's basketball games and will have 9 football games exclusively on Peacock. More and more, sports are going streaming so all conferences have to have some streaming component to prepare. Last year, 17 women's basketball games were on SNY and not easily available to the rest of the country. Maybe some games will be on Peacock or Max which has wider distribution.

I can just imagine the-boneyard back when ESPN started to broadcast Big East games. People would have complained the games weren't on CBS or a local TV channel like Channel 3.
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You have no idea what is going to be on what.

For that matter, I don't either so as I said before, I will refrain until we see more details

ESPN was on everybody's cable system since 1979 and grew the Big East so not a good comparison
 
aburks41 said:


"Big East men’s and women’s college basketball is on the verge of adding new television partners as NBC Sports and TNT Sports are expected to join Fox Sports in presenting games beginning this season, sources briefed on the negotiations told The Athletic.

While Fox Sports will remain the top partner, both NBC, which will feature most of its games on Peacock, and TNT Sports, which operates the streaming service Max, are anticipated to add a large number of games.


The financial terms of the expected new agreements are not yet known. The agreement is not yet formalized and the other incumbent, CBS Sports — which does a smaller package of games — is still holding discussions."
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So basically youre telling me i will miss some Uconn mens games unless i get a sub to the shiddy Peacock streaming channel?
 
this is great. would love for some games on TNT. surprised NBC is interested given it's getting the nba but peacock premium is included for free w/ comcast and it's already a must have for premier league games
 
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auror said:
I'm optimistic about the team, often. But Fanta works for the conference. His job is to hype it up and potentially soften the blow.
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I think the deal sounds promising. You have to really want it to start pissing on it already.
 
auror said:
I'm optimistic about the team, often. But Fanta works for the conference. His job is to hype it up and potentially soften the blow.
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wouldnt softening the blow entail saying the deal is only gonna be marginally better than the current one? or something like that. TNT is desperate for content without the NBA so i'm hoping they helped drive the price up.
 
auror said:
I'm optimistic about the team, often. But Fanta works for the conference. His job is to hype it up and potentially soften the blow.
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Weiss said the contract is good too. We will know soon enough.
 
Hoping its 8 million +. This deal is not bad. We could potentially play games on big CBS, NBC, and FOX as well as TNT. I could see TNT have a show with Barkley, Kellogg, etc. tied to it. It would be good for TNT to keep a little college basketball momentum going into the NCAA tournament.
 
The Big East contract may be good, but that will be entirely because of UConn. While that’s nice, I hate when we are more valuable outside the P4 than when in it. It doesn’t help us to be had for pennies on the dollar.
 
king conn said:
You have no idea what is going to be on what.

For that matter, I don't either so as I said before, I will refrain until we see more details

ESPN was on everybody's cable system since 1979 and grew the Big East so not a good comparison
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ESPN was not on everyone's cable system back in 1979. The first broadcast in 1979 was to 1.4 million homes. At the end of 1980, they had 7.3 million subscribers, 1981 had 13.6 million subscribers at the end of the year. Peacock has 31 million subscribers today.
 
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UConnJim said:
ESPN was not on everyone's cable system back in 1979. The first broadcast in 1979 was to 1.4 million homes. At the end of 1980, they had 7.3 million subscribers, 1981 had 13.6 million subscribers at the end of the year. Peacock has 31 million subscribers today.
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Are you aware of how many of those subscriptions are free for peacock? I have it free, you join Comcast rewards and there it is. I wouldn't pay for it otherwise as I'm sure millions of others wouldn't either.

Now, how many total TV households were there in 1980-81 compared to today?

And you can go to any history book about the Big East to know ESPN gets the biggest credit for making the league the giant it quickly became. You are looking foolish here.
 
The article refers to TNT Sports; what does that mean, that games can/will be shown on TBS and TNT?
 
huskyjawz said:
The article refers to TNT Sports; what does that mean, that games can/will be shown on TBS and TNT?
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Seems like "can be", but they also as mentioned likely will put games on Max streaming service. They will have a lot of winter/spring programming open with the NBA gone, though.
king conn said:
Are you aware of how many of those subscriptions are free for peacock? I have it free, you join Comcast rewards and there it is. I wouldn't pay for it otherwise as I'm sure millions of others wouldn't either.
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Well earlier your argument was that we're in a death spiral because nobody will see our stuff. But now you're saying that Peacock is jammed down everyone's throat. I would withhold your judgment on who looks foolish.
 
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king conn said:
Are you aware of how many of those subscriptions are free for peacock? I have it free, you join Comcast rewards and there it is. I wouldn't pay for it otherwise as I'm sure millions of others wouldn't either.

Now, how many total TV households were there in 1980-81 compared to today?

And you can go to any history book about the Big East to know ESPN gets the biggest credit for making the league the giant it quickly became. You are looking foolish here.
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That's funny. When did I ever say signing with ESPN didn't benefit the Big East? One of my buddies was an early employee at ESPN and it was an uphill climb gaining subscribers as they had to go cable company by cable company (they weren't consolidated back then) and there were only 16 million cable subscribers in the US in 1980 and about 80 million TV households. The Big East signing with ESPN was a big risk, but it paid off as there weren't enough OTA channels to carry that many college basketball games. Unfortunately, ESPN subscribers are in a LT decline and people are moving to streaming. Netflix has about 270 million paid subscribers and growing which is over 3x ESPN's current declining sub base.
 
UConnJim said:
UConn knows the value of the contract which is why they were comfortable offering Hurley a big raise.
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You're always more comfortable with your back against the wall.
 
auror said:
Seems like "can be", but they also as mentioned likely will put games on Max streaming service. They will have a lot of winter/spring programming open with the NBA gone, though.

Well earlier your argument was that we're in a death spiral because nobody will see our stuff. But now you're saying that Peacock is jammed down everyone's throat. I would withhold your judgment on who looks foolish.
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Stop making stuff up

You keep saying I said UConn is in a death spiral. Here's some advice. If you have to make things up to try and win a discussion, take the L and move on.

I said the Big East would hardly be watched on those particular streamers and used the word oblivion..That's the hard truth. If you don't want to accept that, it's your problem. This isn't opinion it's fact. No sports fan is going to subscribe to these to watch the Big East except a certain percentage of hardcore fans of those teams. The subscribers that are there now are for movies, particular TV programming, soccer and the NFL. Big 10 fans may go for their content, but they do not need to grow their exposure like the Big East does. This isn't complicated.

And WTH is your last statement. I look foolish because I said peacock was jammed down everyone's throat? You are getting nonsensical. I guess you haven't noticed that this whole thread is about Peacock getting jammed down everyone's throat.

Give it a rest
 
king conn said:
Stop making stuff up

You keep saying I said UConn is in a death spiral. Here's some advice. If you have to make things up to try and win a discussion, take the L and move on.

I said the Big East would hardly be watched on those particular streamers and used the word oblivion
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I apologize for editorializing and using the term "death spiral" instead of just repeating "ticket to oblivion" word for word. Vastly distinct concepts and your point was entirely misrepresented to anyone reading my prose.
king conn said:
And WTH is your last statement. I look foolish because I said peacock was jammed down everyone's throat? You are getting nonsensical. I guess you haven't noticed that this whole thread is about Peacock getting jammed down everyone's throat.
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You said someone else looked foolish for their comments. I said I wouldn't judge someone else for looking foolish when you are the one arguing essentially opposite points in the same thread. Saying "No sports fan is going to subscribe to these to watch the Big East" which is a problem because (we all agree) the Big East needs to grow its popularity. And at the same time also arguing "I guess you haven't noticed that this whole thread is about Peacock getting jammed down everyone's throat." How can the ability to grow the league's popularity be a problem if (as you argue in this thread) a ton of people have access to Peacock for free and it's in a TON of homes?

If the argument is that those casual/free subs won't watch Big East basketball, well I have news for you about how many cable subscribers channel surf to Fox Sports 2. At any rate, it's the job of the league to convert them and that's not really hindered by being on a popular streaming platform (considering there weren't really any options to get any bigger of a platform for the league).
 
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UConnJim said:
That's funny. When did I ever say signing with ESPN didn't benefit the Big East? One of my buddies was an early employee at ESPN and it was an uphill climb gaining subscribers as they had to go cable company by cable company (they weren't consolidated back then) and there were only 16 million cable subscribers in the US in 1980 and about 80 million TV households. The Big East signing with ESPN was a big risk, but it paid off as there weren't enough OTA channels to carry that many college basketball games. Unfortunately, ESPN subscribers are in a LT decline and people are moving to streaming. Netflix has about 270 million paid subscribers and growing which is over 3x ESPN's current declining sub base.
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Well even as of now, ESPN is still the go to for sports in general and CBB in particular. And yes the total subscribers are down and will continue to be with the fracturing of cable. But what they are losing are the people who never watched anyway and were just subscribers because of their cable system.
What we are seeing now is getting closer to who actually watched the channel.

So the thing is, you just can't group the streamers together as if it's all the same.ESPN is on many streamers, as well as now setting up their own direct to consumer, while still available on cable.
People with any interest in sports will more than likely have it in some form. We belong in the spotlight and this is the best way to find it. Honestly if we have to stream, plus would be the way to go, at least then you would have games on the main network and the industry would be talking about you during the season on their CBB programming.

Peacock and Max are niche. I'm just going to hope it's for DePaul and Georgetown and we received boatloads of money for the deal, but we're just going to have to see.
 
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