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Big East OOC thread '25/'26

St John’s is frustrating to watch. So much talent but the ball barely moves on offense.

Sellers just drives straight into the defense the last two possessions and doesn’t even pass the ball.

All those star players around you and you can’t dish it to the open guy?

Don’t even get me started on their defense
 
Ejiofor did nothing the last 8 minutes again like in the Bama game, badly outplayed down the stretch by some 7 ppg transfer from Virginia.

St. John's should be ashamed of themselves for losing that game. Two years in a row they don't get it done out of conference.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Some god awful closing possessions by StJ. Absolutely gross. I’m not impressed at all by Jackson. He’s just a wild player, totally unrefined.
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Sanon has looked like dog doo doo as well. I thought he would be a lot better than this.
 
aceboon said:
so is St Johns going to a redux of last year, lose all of their big non-conf matchups but feast on the big east
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I think they’ll be good. Just not as good as their preseason hype. I feel vindicated. They’re a 5,6,7 seed. Unless the just go ape s*** in conference.
 
KingAG said:
I think they’ll be good. Just not as good as their preseason hype. I feel vindicated. They’re a 5,6,7 seed. Unless the just go ape s*** in conference.
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I think they will have a gaudy record again in the Big East. Reminds me of last season but this team has a lot more talent.
 
KingAG said:
I think they’ll be good. Just not as good as their preseason hype. I feel vindicated. They’re a 5,6,7 seed. Unless the just go ape s*** in conference.
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They feel like a top 25 team, just towards the lower half. Tarris will dominate Zubi this year.
 
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KingAG said:
Definitely more talented. Just not built as well.
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Some of the talent feels very unrefined, more athlete than basketball player. Maybe Pitino polishes it up, maybe not.

Sellers was their leading scorer. Not sure that was in the plan. Last years team just bullied you with size, speed and length. This team does not have that make up, at all.
 
superjohn said:
Ejiofor did nothing the last 8 minutes again like in the Bama game, badly outplayed down the stretch by some 7 ppg transfer from Virginia.

St. John's should be ashamed of themselves for losing that game. Two years in a row they don't get it done out of conference.
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So is Pitino not one of the best coaches ever? Or was it someone else who kept saying that all offseason?
 
RuffRuff said:
Last years team just bullied you with size, speed and length. This team does not have that make up, at all.
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It felt that way but last years team was physically smaller. The big difference is they had a big point guard in Kadary.
 
superjohn said:
I think they will have a gaudy record again in the Big East. Reminds me of last season but this team has a lot more talent.
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They may have a gaudy big east record since the league is down but this team is not put together nearly as well as last year.

If they had Richmond, smith, Scott, and rj Luis instead of Jackson, sanon, hopkins and darling they’d be much better
 
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BGesus4 said:
They may have a gaudy big east record since the league is down but this team is not put together nearly as well as last year.

If they had Richmond, smith, Scott, and rj Luis instead of Jackson, sanon, hopkins and darling they’d be much better
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You think the league is down more this season than last?

Richmond, Smith, and Scott all graduated and they didn't win out of conference last season either.
 
superjohn said:
You think the league is down more this season than last?

Richmond, Smith, and Scott all graduated and they didn't win out of conference last season either.
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Yes to your first question. Pretty much undeniable so far.

I realize they graduated. The question was were they a better team last year. Last ooc they lost a couple games they should have won including being up 20 on Baylor and blowing it but they were pretty clearly a very good team to anyone who watched them. This year, zuby is great but beyond that it’s not clear there’s a formula that equals a dangerous team. The things that characterize good teams—playing off each other, getting easy looks, playing disruptive/tough defense—they did last year and don’t really do this year.
 
BGesus4 said:
Yes to your first question. Pretty much undeniable so far.

I realize they graduated. The question was were they a better team last year. Last ooc they lost a couple games they should have won including being up 20 on Baylor and blowing it but they were pretty clearly a very good team to anyone who watched them. This year, zuby is great but beyond that it’s not clear there’s a formula that equals a dangerous team. The things that characterize good teams—playing off each other, getting easy looks, playing disruptive/tough defense—they did last year and don’t really do this year.
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Most of the StJ faithful are wishing they saved their money one of Sanon or Jackson and purchased a PG. It’s clear as day Jackson has no PG skills at all. The kid from Idaho is more of a back up PG.
 
BGesus4 said:
Yes to your first question. Pretty much undeniable so far.

I realize they graduated. The question was were they a better team last year. Last ooc they lost a couple games they should have won including being up 20 on Baylor and blowing it but they were pretty clearly a very good team to anyone who watched them. This year, zuby is great but beyond that it’s not clear there’s a formula that equals a dangerous team. The things that characterize good teams—playing off each other, getting easy looks, playing disruptive/tough defense—they did last year and don’t really do this year.
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The season just started. The group hadn't played much together last season and they've played even less together this season. They lost their one game against a ranked team before Big East play last season, they also lost to Georgia, and beat a terrible Virginia team. Do I think they'll go 18-2 again in the Big East? No. I also don't think they'll lose second round in the NCAA's again.

I just wish they would gel before they become so difficult to play in the Big East. It doesn't help us or the conference and I think it's going to happen again.
 
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superjohn said:
The season just started. The group hadn't played much together last season and they've played even less together this season. They lost their one game against a ranked team before Big East play last season, they also lost to Georgia, and beat a terrible Virginia team. Do I think they'll go 18-2 again in the Big East? No. I also don't think they'll lose second round in the NCAA's again.

I just wish they would gel before they become so difficult to play in the Big East. It doesn't help us or the conference and I think it's going to happen again.
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Yeah the question is do they have pieces that could even gel cohesively together…seems to be a pretty big leap of faith at this point

Do I think they’re definitively better than whoever is the third best team in the big east? yeah probably. Do I think they’re going to have a real shot to contend for a final four like people thought might be the case based on their offseason?…I’d have to say no

Last year , despite a brutal performance in the tournament, they entered the tournament as a real threat to go to the final 4
 
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