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I'm glad you do, I do as well. I'd be willing to wager at a far higher level (both financially and in terms of time invested) than all but a couple in this board.
 
I'm glad you do, I do as well. I'd be willing to wager at a far higher level (both financially and in terms of time invested) than all but a couple in this board.
BMOC.
 
There is not a less likable person in sports media than Paul Finebaum.

Skip Bayless, Keith Olbermann, Stephen A. Smith, Darren Rovell, Kendrick Perkins, Mad Dog, Mike Francesca, Jason Whitlock, Jeff Goodman, Pat Forde, Clay Travis, Colin Cowherd, Jim Rome, WEEI generally, and Paul Finebaum blows too.
 
Skip Bayless, Keith Olbermann, Stephen A. Smith, Darren Rovell, Kendrick Perkins, Mad Dog, Mike Francesca, Jason Whitlock, Jeff Goodman, Pat Forde, Clay Travis, Colin Cowherd, Jim Rome, WEEI generally, and Paul Finebaum blows too.
All very unlikeable, but to me Paul is the worst.
 
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There is not a less likable person in sports media than Paul Finebaum.

I find the guys that continually post unfounded conference realignment rumors on Twitter to be pretty unlikeable.
 
I guess my question was does anyone know what the basketball program would get BE now vs Big 12 now in actual dollars?
Isn’t that irrelevant as the money goes into the same budget .
If we went into the Big 12
At full share our distribution from conference would be between $40- 50 million
The footballl budget might see a $20 million increase the rest would be distributed as we saw fit ,
When.you add in attendance increases it might be another $10,000,000
 
What does Title IX have to do with football programs breaking off into their own conferences?
You have the same Title IX requirements as long as you’re carrying the same number of scholarships. Football having a large number of players is responsible for 3-4 Women's teams under that law.
 
Isn’t that irrelevant as the money goes into the same budget .
If we went into the Big 12
At full share our distribution from conference would be between $40- 50 million
The footballl budget might see a $20 million increase the rest would be distributed as we saw fit ,
When.you add in attendance increases it might be another $10,000,000
IF we ever got the Big12 invite, I'd imagine it would be at a partial payout for several/many years.
 
IF we ever got the Big12 invite, I'd imagine it would be at a partial payout for several/many years.
That seems to be the new reality. The devil is in the details of course. It depends on the amount of the "partial" payment and its duration.
 
IF we ever got the Big12 invite, I'd imagine it would be at a partial payout for several/many years.
I’m probably naive but I always assumed this is the move we make once we HAVE to. In other words, once the powers that be relegate the Big East out of power status in basketball. If we have to take the same money but live in a conference that will survive the shifting landscape, so be it.
 
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I’m probably naive but I always assumed this is the move we make once we HAVE to. In other words, once the powers that be relegate the Big East out of power status in basketball. If we have to take the same money but live in a conference that will survive the shifting landscape, so be it.
Well the Big12 viewed our FB as an albatross, so hopefully it is more than the same money we are getting now. Any additional money beyond what we get now should be focused on improving FB. I think we were #2 nationally in money allocated toward BB 2nd only to Duke, it was reported during the NCAA tournament.
 
It's not true? Sounds like denial to me. It's in motion, and we all know it's bound to happen. Does anyone here think the B1G and SEC won't get their way?

Clearly someone does, because every other school hasn't shut down their athletic departments.
 
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In 2012, the Big 12 conference incorporated a “99-year blood oath contract” for each member. In short, this contract was made to keep teams bound together as part of the conference for the long run. This deal doesn’t necessarily lock teams in permanently, but it does make it extremely difficult to leave.

For example, Texas and Oklahoma announced their plans to leave the Big 12 for the SEC in 2021. After three years of court cases, contract negotiations, buyouts and trials, these schools have finally been cleared to join a new conference. It didn’t come free, however, as it cost an estimated $100 million for each university to buy out of the dreaded 99-year blood oath.

The University of Utah avoided this contract when signing with its new conference. The genius negotiations by U President Taylor Randall and staff negated an exit fee requirement if and when the Utes are ready to move on from the Big 12. This is a luxury that only Utah has in the newly formed conference, allowing them to easily leave for the Big 10, SEC, ACC or elsewhere in the future. Utah has a comfortable new home in the Big 12, but can likely play themselves into a superior conference over time.


 
Utah has a smaller population than CT. Another place with multiple teams set for the future.
Utah supports their college football teams.
“Today's game marks the 83rd straight sellout of Rice-Eccles Stadium, dating back to the 2010 season opener vs. Pitt. Also, the Rice-Eccles season average attendance of 52,499 per game is a facility record, surpassing the 2022 season (52,057).” BYU gets similar sellout attendance.
 
Utah has a smaller population than CT. Another place with multiple teams set for the future.
It doesn't help that when word got out that the Big 12 was considering us, there were a bunch of articles and comments from supposed UConn fans about how we wouldn't want to go to the Big 12 and should hang out with a bunch of small private basketball schools instead.
 
Utah has finished in Top 20 of three out of the last five Final AP Polls

And finished Final AP Top 25 in six of last ten seasons.
 
In 2012, the Big 12 conference incorporated a “99-year blood oath contract” for each member. In short, this contract was made to keep teams bound together as part of the conference for the long run. This deal doesn’t necessarily lock teams in permanently, but it does make it extremely difficult to leave.

For example, Texas and Oklahoma announced their plans to leave the Big 12 for the SEC in 2021. After three years of court cases, contract negotiations, buyouts and trials, these schools have finally been cleared to join a new conference. It didn’t come free, however, as it cost an estimated $100 million for each university to buy out of the dreaded 99-year blood oath.

The University of Utah avoided this contract when signing with its new conference. The genius negotiations by U President Taylor Randall and staff negated an exit fee requirement if and when the Utes are ready to move on from the Big 12. This is a luxury that only Utah has in the newly formed conference, allowing them to easily leave for the Big 10, SEC, ACC or elsewhere in the future. Utah has a comfortable new home in the Big 12, but can likely play themselves into a superior conference over time.


I don’t know how much to make of the 99 year clause. But that is clearly NOT what made it difficult for Texas and Oklahoma to leave. They were still locked into a GOR for three more years. After negotiations and a bit of money, they were able to get out a year early.

So, Utah may have been wise to not sign the silly clause, but I believe they are still locked into the GOR and subject to the exit fees if they decide to leave, and would have to negotiate to get out for less than $300 million or so.
 
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