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It's not true? Sounds like denial to me. It's in motion, and we all know it's bound to happen. Does anyone here think the B1G and SEC won't get their way?

Clearly someone does, because every other school hasn't shut down their athletic departments.
 
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In 2012, the Big 12 conference incorporated a “99-year blood oath contract” for each member. In short, this contract was made to keep teams bound together as part of the conference for the long run. This deal doesn’t necessarily lock teams in permanently, but it does make it extremely difficult to leave.

For example, Texas and Oklahoma announced their plans to leave the Big 12 for the SEC in 2021. After three years of court cases, contract negotiations, buyouts and trials, these schools have finally been cleared to join a new conference. It didn’t come free, however, as it cost an estimated $100 million for each university to buy out of the dreaded 99-year blood oath.

The University of Utah avoided this contract when signing with its new conference. The genius negotiations by U President Taylor Randall and staff negated an exit fee requirement if and when the Utes are ready to move on from the Big 12. This is a luxury that only Utah has in the newly formed conference, allowing them to easily leave for the Big 10, SEC, ACC or elsewhere in the future. Utah has a comfortable new home in the Big 12, but can likely play themselves into a superior conference over time.


 
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Utah has a smaller population than CT. Another place with multiple teams set for the future.
Utah supports their college football teams.
“Today's game marks the 83rd straight sellout of Rice-Eccles Stadium, dating back to the 2010 season opener vs. Pitt. Also, the Rice-Eccles season average attendance of 52,499 per game is a facility record, surpassing the 2022 season (52,057).” BYU gets similar sellout attendance.
 

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Utah has a smaller population than CT. Another place with multiple teams set for the future.
It doesn't help that when word got out that the Big 12 was considering us, there were a bunch of articles and comments from supposed UConn fans about how we wouldn't want to go to the Big 12 and should hang out with a bunch of small private basketball schools instead.
 
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Utah has finished in Top 20 of three out of the last five Final AP Polls

And finished Final AP Top 25 in six of last ten seasons.
 
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In 2012, the Big 12 conference incorporated a “99-year blood oath contract” for each member. In short, this contract was made to keep teams bound together as part of the conference for the long run. This deal doesn’t necessarily lock teams in permanently, but it does make it extremely difficult to leave.

For example, Texas and Oklahoma announced their plans to leave the Big 12 for the SEC in 2021. After three years of court cases, contract negotiations, buyouts and trials, these schools have finally been cleared to join a new conference. It didn’t come free, however, as it cost an estimated $100 million for each university to buy out of the dreaded 99-year blood oath.

The University of Utah avoided this contract when signing with its new conference. The genius negotiations by U President Taylor Randall and staff negated an exit fee requirement if and when the Utes are ready to move on from the Big 12. This is a luxury that only Utah has in the newly formed conference, allowing them to easily leave for the Big 10, SEC, ACC or elsewhere in the future. Utah has a comfortable new home in the Big 12, but can likely play themselves into a superior conference over time.


I don’t know how much to make of the 99 year clause. But that is clearly NOT what made it difficult for Texas and Oklahoma to leave. They were still locked into a GOR for three more years. After negotiations and a bit of money, they were able to get out a year early.

So, Utah may have been wise to not sign the silly clause, but I believe they are still locked into the GOR and subject to the exit fees if they decide to leave, and would have to negotiate to get out for less than $300 million or so.
 
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It doesn't help that when word got out that the Big 12 was considering us, there were a bunch of articles and comments from supposed UConn fans about how we wouldn't want to go to the Big 12 and should hang out with a bunch of small private basketball schools instead.
Even a State Congressional representative was opposed to the Big 12 and commented pro Big East. Very bad look from small minded congressman.
 
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Utah has a smaller population than CT. Another place with multiple teams set for the future.
Demographics have changed.

In 1990, Utah had half of the population of Connecticut and now the populations are close to equal. And, from 2010 to 2020, Utah was the fastest growing state.

In 1990, South Carolina and Connecticut had about equal populations. Today, there are about 50% more people in South Carolina.
 
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Could be nothing, but my son is friends with a person connected with the WBB program who said there are Big 12 rumblings again. We've been down this road so many times, I am highly skeptical, but just passing along what I heard...
 

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Could be nothing, but my son is friends with a person connected with the WBB program who said there are Big 12 rumblings again. We've been down this road so many times, I am highly skeptical, but just passing along what I heard...
We've never seem to be at a loss for rumblings, and yet lightning never seems to strike.

Thanks for passing along what you heard!
 
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The rumblings have been going on for two months. The problem is that no one would expand with a school like UConn right this moment. There may be some bigger fish available from a football perspective (FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA, Miami, NCST).

Adding us would be sensible if the B12 is trying to fire a kill shot at the ACC, but that’s about the only reason to take us right now.
 

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The rumblings have been going on for two months. The problem is that no one would expand with a school like UConn right this moment. There may be some bigger fish available from a football perspective (FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA, Miami, NCST).

Adding us would be sensible if the B12 is trying to fire a kill shot at the ACC, but that’s about the only reason to take us right now.
I really hope that you all get that invite. I hope the Big12 isn’t “rumbling” to out pressure on the ACC schools to push for a settlement saying there are only so many spots available. If UConn gets one, that’s one less for an ACC school to grab. You are more deserving of that spot than 3/4 of the ACC.
 
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I heard that at this point it's closer to a buzz than a rumbling.

What Does That Mean Pop Tv GIF by Schitt's Creek
 
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UConn needs to keep everything well under wraps for a few reasons. First, obviously is it isn’t a deal until it’s a deal. No sense making noise unless and until there is a real deal. No sense getting everyone excited if there is no deal coming. 2nd, if we are going to the B12 or anyplace really, the deal needs to be kept under wraps because the minute it gets out there will be an intense lobbying effort to save the New Big East among some people who should know better. They will be aided and abetted by the New Big East who knows without the Huskies they are worth about 50% less in the market.
 
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Dave seemed to have kept everything under wraps when moving to the NBE. IIRC the process started in 2017, and the news hit quick in 2019...
 

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