Big 12 Meetings

[jostar1]

because for the first two schools added they have no choice thanks to the pro rata clause in the contract after that they would have to negotiate

According to Boren, they get a pro-rata increase for two or four. It is in the contract and it doesn't require additional negotiation.

DAVID BOREN: The provisions, of course, as you know do protect us so that current member shares will not be diluted if we were to add two or four more teams. There's a contractual obligation to pay that additional amount pro rata that we're already receiving if there is an expansion, a hypothetical expansion of the conference. It's already covered in our contracts, does not require additional negotiation of the contracts.

 

[UConn Dan]

So does the "why would ESPN pay more for schools they're already getting for cheap" argument actually hold any water? Assuming, of course, that ESPN would be the network that the Big 12 tries to get a network out of? Never heard a good counter-argument.

Seems to make sense. Why would ESPN pay more for schools when they already own their content?

1) because they are contractually obligated to

2) the argument could be made for UConn basketball, being a name brand, that there is synergistic increase in value since a games vs better competition and more valuable properties than the AAC offers will bring more eye balls. To a lesser extent UConn football should carry some additional weight playing vs better teams based on brand recognition, our market, and our ratings vs marquee teams.

 

[Jerry27]

According to Boren, they get a pro-rata increase for two or four. It is in the contract and it doesn't require additional negotiation.

DAVID BOREN: The provisions, of course, as you know do protect us so that current member shares will not be diluted if we were to add two or four more teams. There's a contractual obligation to pay that additional amount pro rata that we're already receiving if there is an expansion, a hypothetical expansion of the conference. It's already covered in our contracts, does not require additional negotiation of the contracts.

even better, I only heard two but that makes sense because that contract was done when they had twelve members

 

[CL82]

Yes, we have horses and cows and barns.

I don't know man "Big 12 culture" is a criteria. Storrs is a place that a Big 12 alum would feel comfortable visiting.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Go Ralph G0!

Ralph D. Russo@ralphDrussoAP 2 hours ago
Colorado State Houston Cincinnati UConn There you go. That's my guess for the Big 12.

Joe Dapper@JoeDapps 1 hour ago
@ralphDrussoAP@AP_Top25 Good luck getting the Texas B12 schools to agree to travel to Connecticut for all sports. Not happening.

Ralph D. Russo@ralphDrussoAP39 mins ago
UConn's got academics. Big alumni base. State support. Gets a foot into a big new market.

We have extremely limited samples of shools entering conferences for and individual sport. How do we know UConn can't enter for Football and Mens/Womens basketball

 

[BUConn10]

Another geography major...

FootballScoop Staff@FootballScoop 42 mins ago
Our resident Big 12 expert @zach_barnett provides the definitive ranking of the Big 12 expansion candidates

A definitive, realistic, blunt and sure-to-enrage ranking of the Big 12 expansion candidates - FootballScoop

"How many doors in Queens do you have to knock on until you find someone interested in UComn football"?

Well if the B12 presidents are going to make their decisions based in hypotheticals like that and what they feel UConn's popularity is in the NE based purely on perception and gut instincts, then we are .

 

[HartbeatHusky]

Big 12 expansion: Ranking the candidates, why Texas probably changed its mind

 

[uconnphil2016]

Big 12 expansion: Ranking the candidates, why Texas probably changed its mind

Is it me, or did Dodd's tune change rather quickly?

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Big 12 expansion: Ranking the candidates, why Texas probably changed its mind

Interesting that Dodd has us at #2. I could be totally wrong but he's been kind of low on us during the process.

I'll tell you what, in NYC I would say I see the most Cuse gear (as much as it pains me) but believe it or not then I see UConn, ND, Penn State, Michigan on a level below Cuse. I never see any Rutgers gear lol.

 

[Exit 4]

Big 12 expansion: Ranking the candidates, why Texas probably changed its mind

Huh, so now Dodd has us as the #2 choice. Amazing what a little research can do for the media. Maybe there is hope.

 

[NYUConn]

Is it me, or did Dodd's tune change rather quickly?

Absolutely. Him and Ubben went from totally dismissive to having UConn in too 2 seemingly overnight.

 

[NYUConn]

Interesting that Dodd has us at #2. I could be totally wrong but he's been kind of low on us during the process.

I'll tell you what, in NYC I would say I see the most Cuse gear (as much as it pains me) but believe it or not then I see UConn, ND, Penn State, Michigan on a level below Cuse. I never see any Rutgers gear lol.

I moved to Hoboken, NJ (literally right across the Hudson from NYC for those unaware) 18 months ago. There isn't a day that I don't see someone in a UConn shirt or a car with a UConn sticker parked on the street. TONS of alumni.

 

[huskymedic]

Is it me, or did Dodd's tune change rather quickly?

Yup... He's hearing whispers (and probably has better intel on Navigate/Bevilacqua data)

 

[junglehusky]

We're #2! We're #2!

 

[FDNY99]

Interesting that Dodd has us at #2. I could be totally wrong but he's been kind of low on us during the process.

I'll tell you what, in NYC I would say I see the most Cuse gear (as much as it pains me) but believe it or not then I see UConn, ND, Penn State, Michigan on a level below Cuse. I never see any Rutgers gear lol.

Interesting enough..a guy I work with grew up in Bed Stuy/Crown Heights off of Eastern Parkway...just moved form there about 5 months ago..he said in that part of Brooklyn UConn gear is #1 for college gear

 

[NYUConn]

Interesting enough..a guy I work with grew up in Bed Stuy/Crown Heights off of Eastern Parkway...just moved form there about 5 months ago..he said in that part of Brooklyn UConn gear is #1 for college gear

Ever since Kemba Walker went off in 2011, NYC has been UConn territory with HS age kids through the outer boroughs.

Kemba was one of their own. He's royalty.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I moved to Hoboken, NJ (literally right across the Hudson from NYC for those unaware) 18 months ago. There isn't a day that I don't see someone in a UConn shirt or a car with a UConn sticker parked on the street. TONS of alumni.

Haha. I'm in Hoboken right now. I've actually noticed a ton of Husky gear here lately too.

 

[sportsart]

Feels like the crystal ball watch like on the men's basketball board.

 

[Vowelguy]

Joe Dapper@JoeDapps 1 hour ago
@ralphDrussoAP@AP_Top25 Good luck getting the Texas B12 schools to agree to travel to Connecticut for all sports. Not happening.

So they'll travel to WV but not UConn?

Flying commercial, WV is about 50 mins shorter in the air, but about 30-40 minutes longer on the road.

 

[junglehusky]

So they'll travel to WV but not UConn?

Flying commercial, WV is about 50 mins shorter in the air, but about 30-40 minutes longer on the road.

There you go, trying to inject facts into a perfectly irrational process.

 

[jostar1]

Big 12 expansion: Ranking the candidates, why Texas probably changed its mind

Wow, Cincy drops to number 4.

 

[uconnphil2016]

Yup... He's hearing whispers (and probably has better intel on Navigate/Bevilacqua data)

Exactly, which is awesome. If there's one thing I know about sports media members (and especially guys like Dodd), it's that they hate nothing more than admitting that they're wrong. They're willing to hold on to ridiculous takes for the sheer sake of self pride. To see him flip flop so quickly and so drastically speaks volumes. I believe just last night he left UConn entirely off his list of the best candidates for expansion...

 

[huskymedic]

Courant: Got Questions About UConn Joining The Big 12? We've Got Answers

 

[noeynox]

Please let this be the time our number is called. I can't imagine what being left behind yet again would do our fan base's collective psyche.

 

[Exit 4]

Courant: Got Questions About UConn Joining The Big 12? We've Got Answers

That was actually a decent article. I don't feel dumber for reading it and as it is intended, it should bring any reader not familiar with the big picture (and there are many alumni and fans who don't have a clue) up to speed. Kudos to Doyle.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Damn that video makes me miss UConn so much I want to cry

 

[huskymedic]

Opinions... everyone has one:

Tulsa - Guerin Emig: A reader's guide to (potential) Big 12 expansion ... before the league changes its mind

Cincy - Big 12 criteria: Who has the advantage?

 

[UConn Dan]

UConn Content To Stay Behind The Scenes, Vows Not To Pester Big 12 Bosses
UConn Content To Stay Behind The Scenes, Vows Not To Pester Big 12 Bosses

From the article:

School officials in Storrs have privately said UConn has made its interest known. But there has been no public promoting and that won't change, according to sources at the school.

"What we do every day at UConn is a public sign to the country that we are committed to having a university and an athletic department that is in the best possible position nationally," Benedict said. "What better public display of evidence do you need than winning NCAA and conference championships and going to a bowl game at a university that's ranked among the top 20 public research universities in the country?

"UConn makes a very visible commitment to academics and athletics. We know that the key decision-makers in the future of college athletics are fully aware of UConn and know that we want to compete at the very highest level. To me, tangible results are UConn's very public way of saying we want to be and belong among the very best."

Reference to AP story about FOIA contact between schools (pretty sure this email exchange was posted here - and it was based on @Dooley good work):

UConn's presence in the AP story? "A UConn student sent a report prepared by the school's alumni to West Virginia athletic director Shane Lyons that points out the Storrs-based school provides access to TV markets (including New York and Boston) with potential to reach 11.7 million homes while the combined markets reached by Cincinnati, UCF, South Florida and Houston is 12.3 million homes," according to the report.

There was nothing from a UConn administrator.

The article also touched on the football only scenario and Big East thing among other things. Some good stuff from Doyle lately.

 

[HartbeatHusky]

Bohls: How about this Final Four for Big 12 expansion?

1. So which schools join the Big 12? This could change, but my initial preference would be to invite Houston, BYU, Cincinnati and UConn. Houston offers proximity and a rising football power; BYU has the best of all worlds with name identification, a strong athletics program and a terrific following, although no Sunday games and the fact it’s a private school with its own TV network could hurt it; and Cincinnati and UConn offer successful hoops teams and nearby partners for West Virginia.

 

[FDNY99]

Bohls: How about this Final Four for Big 12 expansion?

1. So which schools join the Big 12? This could change, but my initial preference would be to invite Houston, BYU, Cincinnati and UConn. Houston offers proximity and a rising football power; BYU has the best of all worlds with name identification, a strong athletics program and a terrific following, although no Sunday games and the fact it’s a private school with its own TV network could hurt it; and Cincinnati and UConn offer successful hoops teams and nearby partners for West Virginia.

WOW!! This is a complete turn around!
Bohls..like Dodds and Carlton were so Anti-UConn it wasn't even funny! They even appeared to go out of their way to knock Tramel when he mentioned UConn as a top viable candidate when B-12 expansion first started rot heat up.