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ISUnorth said:
Bad news is with Crooks/Brown combining for 43 pts and 20 rebs they still lost in Stillwater last season and we will be rolling out a weaker roster than that at noon today.
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It's not the same team you will be facing this year though, they had fairly heavy graduation losses. 3 starters and 3rd, 4th and 5th leading scorers.
 
nwhoopfan said:
It's not the same team you will be facing this year though, they had fairly heavy graduation losses. 3 starters and 3rd, 4th and 5th leading scorers.
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And both have played weak schedules, only two Quad 1 games each. March projections have them both as 8 seeds.
 
Cowgirls just giving ISU a boat racing humiliation of a loss. Woof.

At this point even I am hoping Stailee Heard gets her triple double, she's an assist short.
 
My delayed a few hours more reaction.

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Ok, after the TCU loss today to tOSU, I still think TCU is the best Big 12 team by far followed by Iowa State-provided Addy Brown gets healthy, then Baylor-despite Nicki Colleen’s major coaching deficiencies, that team has talent, then WVU, then Tech. I am rooting hard for ASU and Utah to break into the top 4 over Tech but don’t really think that will happen.
 
DefenseBB said:
Ok, after the TCU loss today to tOSU, I still think TCU is the best Big 12 team by far followed by Iowa State-provided Addy Brown gets healthy, then Baylor-despite Nicki Colleen’s major coaching deficiencies, that team has talent, then WVU, then Tech. I am rooting hard for ASU and Utah to break into the top 4 over Tech but don’t really think that will happen.
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Do you really think Iowa State with 5 conference losses already is going to be a top Big 12 team??
 
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Big12wbbFan said:
Do you really think Iowa State with 5 conference losses already is going to be a top Big 12 team??
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If Brown comes back and they make a run in their conference tournament, it's possible. But it's a big if as Brown's return timeline is unknown.
 
cancontent said:
If Brown comes back and they make a run in their conference tournament, it's possible. But it's a big if as Brown's return timeline is unknown.
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You may be right but I wonder if zbroens return will be enough . Teams seem to have figured out Iowa States defensive weakness. Attack Crooks. Attack attack attack!
 
cancontent said:
If Brown comes back and they make a run in their conference tournament, it's possible. But it's a big if as Brown's return timeline is unknown.
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Tournament runs are pretty meaningless in the eyes of the committee, they have said as much. ISU fans hold the Big 12 tournament in KC in great reverence but overstate it's importance each year. It's an exhibition series and consolation prize for teams that sucked in conference play. Some good entrainment but that's all.

Still, it could be a factor if ISU did get Brown back and a chance to maybe play off the bubble with a full starting roster again. I am just personally skeptical.
 
Has a team ever fallen this fast in January. #3 seed to play-in game in a few weeks.

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ISUnorth said:
Tournament runs are pretty meaningless in the eyes of the committee, they have said as much. ISU fans hold the Big 12 tournament in KC in great reverence but overstate it's importance each year. It's an exhibition series and consolation prize for teams that sucked in conference play. Some good entrainment but that's all.

Still, it could be a factor if ISU did get Brown back and a chance to maybe play off the bubble with a full starting roster again. I am just personally skeptical.
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But winning a tournament takes a team off the bubble ( if I ISU falls that low) and puts them firmly in the NCAA tournament
 
ISUnorth said:
Tournament runs are pretty meaningless in the eyes of the committee, they have said as much. ISU fans hold the Big 12 tournament in KC in great reverence but overstate it's importance each year. It's an exhibition series and consolation prize for teams that sucked in conference play. Some good entrainment but that's all.

Still, it could be a factor if ISU did get Brown back and a chance to maybe play off the bubble with a full starting roster again. I am just personally skeptical.
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The Power 4 conferences have so many good teams that outside of the elites, there are going to be a lot of losses in league games.
If the Cyclones can even get Jackson back they may be in a position whereby KC will make a difference. This year more than ever ISU needs the lesser conference regular season champions to also win their league tourneys.
 
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Good bounce back game for Iowa State in thumping Cincy in Hilton by 93-68. Huge game by Jada Williams with 44 points, most ever by a Cyclone in a conference game. One step towards getting back on track but a ways to go yet. Not every game can be at home versus a weaker team.
 
Texas Tech is destroying Utah, in SLC. I give up trying to understand anything in this conference.
 
Arizona ended up with four players on the court, they had 5 but Welch suffered some sort of leg injury and was carried off. The rest of the team fouled out. 2nd game in a row with a huge number of fouls against Arizona, and yes, they largely were. Missed the last game but a friend who was there said most of the fouls were fouls, as well. Nothing vicious, just fouls.
 


Okay - this is perplexing especially with how the NCAA has allowed others in MBB back to use their remaining eligibility, excluding the Bedaiko case.
 
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The Big 12 is nuts. There's no way to tell what will happen in any given game.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
They have some solid wins. Beat Baylor, West Virginia and Utah all on the road, all upper half teams in the Big 12. That's not something bad teams do.
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1st- congrats on your big win tonight at MD!
2nd- i am in line with @Bjbod as Tech is a huge by product of their soft OOC.
I also think this is not a great conference and doubt more than 2 teams make it to the Sweet 16 and if any make to the Elite 8. TCU also played cupcakes, Baylor is still dysfunctional on offense and ISU is so one dimensional. Let’s not forget that TCU spent more money on NIL than anyone else in the conference and it’s not even close. I Heard Tech was close behind Baylor in NIL spending which begs the question”who the heck did they give the money to?”.
But year, that top half is good…🧐
 
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