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CamrnCrz1974 said:
This is not factually accurate.
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LOL. I have a prized autographed poster of Martina and I followed her career extremely closely and I remember when she discussed her desire to ski again after giving it up for many years. When it comes to Martina trivia I am practically an expert. Now, is that something to brag about? That is debatable.

Please see page 211 of this article in which Martina discusses giving up skiing for many years due to the dangerous nature of the sport. She does discuss skiing again but she admittedly gave up the sport starting in her teenage years.

http://books.google.com/books?id=PAMGKPRxUoYC&pg=RA6-PA211&lpg=RA6-PA211&dq=martina navratilova gave up skiing&source=bl&ots=J9rEke6Pim&sig=avDCtgsodktpyys5odW9hvrZeBo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=md-qT9OQDoS69QSkmOzTAQ&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCTge#v=onepage&q=martina navratilova gave up skiing&f=false
 
FairView said:
(BTW, the acceleration of gravity is actually 32 ft per second squared, as in per second per second. I had to make that comment out or respect to my high school physics teacher Terry Rebe.)
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I knew that, but it doesn't apply in this case because it doesn't take Brittny more than a second to fall down, so the rest of the formula is not germane. I know too that if she doesn't fall for 1 second, she never achieves the 32 ft per speed. Also, she doesn't fall in a vacuum as is necessary for the formula to work. But, thanks for making sure all "facts" stated on the BY continue to remain 100% true.:D
 
easttexastrash said:
Back to what may be a bigger question is the one that I asked earlier. Is a coach within his/her rights to have team rules that go beyond the rules of the university or the NCAA rules? It seems as if the case has been presented, especially by CamrnCrz1974, that the coach should not be allowed to do this as it may impede on the rights of the student-athlete, so I will defer to him/her for an opinion on the legality of this.
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Cam is correct the answer should be no in all except the most radical cases.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight, but, I have to ask, does Geno let the WBB team sled/sleigh ride?
I cracked 3 ribs sledding one year. Emergency room workers hate sledding....or love it, because it keeps them busy.
Either way, KM has already signed off on this, there was a story during the tourney that featured BG longboarding around campus. Kids have to be kids.
The only question in my mind is was she wearing protective gear? That would be the caveat to any perceived "risky behavior" that could inflict harm on a student athlete, in my mind.
 
jennyo70 said:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but, I have to ask, does Geno let the WBB team sled/sleigh ride?
I cracked 3 ribs sledding one year. Emergency room workers hate sledding....or love it, because it keeps them busy.
Either way, KM has already signed off on this, there was a story during the tourney that featured BG longboarding around campus. Kids have to be kids.
The only question in my mind is was she wearing protective gear? That would be the caveat to any perceived "risky behavior" that could inflict harm on a student athlete, in my mind.
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Yes, Geno allows sledding. Stef brought two or three sleds from home for the team to use.
 
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easttexastrash said:
LOL. I have a prized autographed poster of Martina and I followed her career extremely closely and I remember when she discussed her desire to ski again after giving it up for many years. When it comes to Martina trivia I am practically an expert. Now, is that something to brag about? That is debatable.

Please see page 211 of this article in which Martina discusses giving up skiing for many years due to the dangerous nature of the sport. She does discuss skiing again but she admittedly gave up the sport starting in her teenage years.
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Interesting, considering in interviews she described skiing trips she made when Nancy Lieberman (then Lieberman-Cline) was her "trainer."
 
GOtta love The Boneyard.

A place where a Baylor fan and Duke fan can "duke" it out over something so silly.
 
Well i can see ETT's point IN THAT Griner is the most important player on a team that just won a NC. In a perfect world, fans would probably like to see her wrap soft pillows around her every waking moment to prevent any kind of injury. But the reality, as Cam pointed out, is that these are kids going thru college. they ought to be having fun. they ought to be enjoying themselves doing things that kids like to do.

some of that stuff is benign - playing video games, going to movies, hanging out with friends. some of it is apparently more risky - sports like surfing, skateboarding, skiing, etc etc. Some probably would never be allowed - sky diving, ultimate cage fighting, motor cross, bull fighting, etc...

some things the coaches have control over - like the crab soccer game that Brittany Hunter tore her knee up playing that has subsequently never been played again on First Night. Other things, like Griner's injury, they have no control over.
 
As a former collegiate athlete I agree that there are certain activities coaches can regulate. For example, we agreed not to drink within a 48 hour period of an event. We were never given a curfew per se, but our coach did recommend a time we went to bed based on sleep needs and the time we had to get up the next day.

Those restrictions were limited in scope and reasonable for an IMMEDIATE event. We were never forbidden to ride bikes etc.

I am assuming when Griner enters the WNBA she will agree not to engage in certain dangerous activities or else forfeit her payment if injured. I believe Jayson Williams lost out a lot of money after a motorcycle accident after his first years with the Bulls.

Right now we should let her be a 21 year old.
 
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Northeast86 said:
As a former collegiate athlete I agree that there are certain activities coaches can regulate. For example, we agreed not to drink within a 48 hour period of an event. We were never given a curfew per se, but our coach did recommend a time we went to bed based on sleep needs and the time we had to get up the next day.

Those restrictions were limited in scope and reasonable for an IMMEDIATE event. We were never forbidden to ride bikes etc.

I am assuming when Griner enters the WNBA she will agree not to engage in certain dangerous activities or else forfeit her payment if injured. I believe Jayson Williams lost out a lot of money after a motorcycle accident after his first years with the Bulls.

Right now we should let her be a 21 year old.
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Drink? Drink what, water? At what university does a coach allow you to "drink?" Are you stating that your coach agreed to allow you to drink liquor as long as you didn't drink liquor as long as it was outside of 48 hours of competition? Was this before you were 21? I bet your parents would have been thrilled to learn of this agreement. Where did you go to school and who was your coach?
 
easttexastrash said:
Drink? Drink what, water? At what university does a coach allow you to "drink?" Are yous stating that your coach agreed to allow you to drink liquor as long as you didn't drink liquor as long as it was outside of 48 hours of competition? Was this before you were 21? I bet your parents would have been thrilled to learn of this agreement. Where did you go to school and who was your coach?
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You just made a lot of us feel old . . . drinking age in CT changed from 18 to 21 in stages from 1982 - 1985.

I was able to legally drink all four years of college. Not that I ever did, of course;)
 
Northeast86 said:
As a former collegiate athlete I agree that there are certain activities coaches can regulate. For example, we agreed not to drink within a 48 hour period of an event. We were never given a curfew per se, but our coach did recommend a time we went to bed based on sleep needs and the time we had to get up the next day.

Those restrictions were limited in scope and reasonable for an IMMEDIATE event. We were never forbidden to ride bikes etc.

I am assuming when Griner enters the WNBA she will agree not to engage in certain dangerous activities or else forfeit her payment if injured. I believe Jayson Williams lost out a lot of money after a motorcycle accident after his first years with the Bulls.

Right now we should let her be a 21 year old.
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Maybe if a university student engages in risky activities they should agree to pay for their tuition fees for the year.
 
justML said:
You just made a lot of us feel old . . . drinking age in CT changed from 18 to 21 in stages from 1982 - 1985.

I was able to legally drink all four years of college. Not that I ever did, of course;)
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What college coach allows you to drink AT ALL? Are you kidding me? Does Geno allow his players to drink? I assume that this would be a team rule..

Maybe I AM that much out of touch if current college coaches allow their players to drink liquor.
 
If a college coach does not have the right to state that you cannot drink liquor then I guess that they do not have you the right to tell you not to ride a skateboard. I surrender. Drink liquor AND skateboard at the same time, for goodness sake. What's the worst that could happen?
 
easttexastrash said:
If a college coach does not have the right to state that you cannot drink liquor then I guess that they do not have you the right to tell you not to ride a skateboard. I surrender. Drink liquor AND skateboard at the same time, for goodness sake. What's the worst that could happen?
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A couple weeks ago, I saw Brittney on her longboard while juggling two running chainsaws and a bowling ball!
 
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Bestiarius said:
A couple weeks ago, I saw Brittney on her longboard while juggling two running chainsaws and a bowling ball!
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LOL Now that is the type of humor I can appreciate.

Bestiarius, I am not sure what that says about you with others here that I think you are funny.
 
Why couldn't team members drink in the offseason if they are 21? I understand during the season, but going out and having a few beers with friends is completely normal, and one of the joys of growing up.

Obviously, getting drunk near campus where students can see you is not a good idea in the age of smart phones and Facebook, but I can't imagine the coaches can regulate what a junior or senior does with her weekends when not in season.
 
Bestiarius said:
A couple weeks ago, I saw Brittney on her longboard while juggling two running chainsaws and a bowling ball!
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So she took the basket of hand grenades off her head? Must've been getting too complicated.

When my college coach "caught" me playing tennis in my off hours, he asked me to cut it out. There was certainly the risk of pulling a muscle, twisting an ankle or knee or whatever. Beyond that, tennis developed all the lateral and backward movement and quick stopping muscles that weren't useful in my event (sprinting) and thus were considered undesirable to develop.

It never even occurred to me to resent his request. Instead I felt a little sheepish about violating team policy by messing in non-approved sports during the season. The man felt like a father to me. I thought he had the team's best interest at heart and wanted me for my own sake to make the biggest contribution I could.

So I confined myself to approved other sports. IIRC, relaxed swimming was OK, and I became a pool shark and table tennis hustler.

Now I walk the dog through the town forest. I don't think ol' Pete Morgan would object.
 
sarals24 said:
Why couldn't team members drink in the offseason if they are 21? I understand during the season, but going out and having a few beers with friends is completely normal, and one of the joys of growing up.

Obviously, getting drunk near campus where students can see you is not a good idea in the age of smart phones and Facebook, but I can't imagine the coaches can regulate what a junior or senior does with her weekends when not in season.
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I'll defer to Icebear on this one. He has a better moral compass than I do.

As for Baylor, drinking liquor does violate the code of conduct. Not sure about UCONN or other universities.

Smoking pot is legal in Denver with a medical license. If a player hurts his or her wrist and gets a medical marijuana license does that make it ok for a student athlete? It IS legal in Denver.
 
easttexastrash said:
What college coach allows you to drink AT ALL? Are you kidding me? Does Geno allow his players to drink? I assume that this would be a team rule..

Maybe I AM that much out of touch if current college coaches allow their players to drink liquor.
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Just to clarify, I was talking about a time - 30 years ago - when drinking was legal for 18-20 year olds.

So was driving without seatbelts, kids not wearing bike helmets, and smoking in schools, planes, restaurants, etc.

And yes, coaches didn't all ban alcohol 24/7 because we could LEGALLY drink. Of course today is different b/c the LAW has changed.
 
JS said:
So she took the basket of hand grenades off her head? Must've been getting too complicated.

When my college coach "caught" me playing tennis in my off hours, he asked me to cut it out.
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I didn't play tennis in college, but I did frequently raise a racket.
 
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Yes. UConn players are allowed to drink and definitely do. An Italian immigrant is not going to have an issue with drinking like a Baptist or Nazarene. And in my experience that is the norm for student-athletes at nearly every university with the exceptions largely being religious institutions that forbid it for the entire student body.


easttexastrash said:
What college coach allows you to drink AT ALL? Are you kidding me? Does Geno allow his players to drink? I assume that this would be a team rule..

Maybe I AM that much out of touch if current college coaches allow their players to drink liquor.
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Scotter said:
Yes. UConn players are allowed to drink and definitely do. An Italian immigrant is not going to have an issue with drinking like a Baptist or Nazarene. And in my experience that is the norm for student-athletes at nearly every university with the exceptions largely being religious institutions that forbid it for the entire student body.
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Good to know. I was not aware that Geno did not have a "no liquor" policy. In that case I can see how many would think that my stance was too stringent.
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
This is why I used the phrase "slippery slope."

Your hyperbole demonstrates you have clearly missed the points I was trying to make, by conflating them together as the basis for your response.
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give up if you didnt already (Im on page 2 of a 6pg thread)
 
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