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Sea Goat said:
Well folks, the Golden Bagel Award goes to BC.

Rutgers was unable to to pull it off as they beat a very bad Minnesota team at home. They finished 1-17 in the B1G. Coupled with their B1G football record of 1-7, they finished 2-24 in the marquee sports.

BC, however, didn't wilt under pressure! They went 0-18 in the ACC in BB and 0-8 in football. They went 0-26 in the marquee sports in 2015-2016. Apparently this hasn't been done in decades.

This is hard to do even if you try. Hats off to them though as they are P-5 (an joke) and collect a big check. Talk about being on the dole!
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ESPN is referring to them as Lost-on College. :)
 
Honestly this is not a good thing. It shows just how bad northeastern college football is and how little people care about it.

UConn has 100k alums in the state, all within 90 minute drive of the Rent and barely averages 30k game. And the tickets are virtually free as compared to $60, 80, 100 at places like Bama, OSU, Texas, etc.

A lot of it is the conference or not because the ACC passed 2-3 times.
 
JSM1970 said:
Honestly this is not a good thing. It shows just how bad northeastern college football is and how little people care about it.

UConn has 100k alums in the state, all within 90 minute drive of the Rent and barely averages 30k game. And the tickets are virtually free as compared to $60, 80, 100 at places like Bama, OSU, Texas, etc.

A lot of it is the conference or not because the ACC passed 2-3 times.
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While I have a good time poking fun at Oh-and-BC, you're right. Their absolute ineptitude on the field and court does not help UConn out at all to get the out of this G5 hell. Fans around the country tend to group all northeast schools into one regionalized entity. While fans don't make CR decisions, enough of them voicing a generalized "the northeast sahqs" sentiment to their school's administrators can't be a good thing for us.

Ultimately, we have no control over anything except UConn. Keep winning, keep donating, keep watching, and keep investing in UConn. The northeast is way too densely populated an area in the country to give up on...even when D-II level athletics at Oh-and-BC and Rutroh exist.
 
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Dooley said:
...Ultimately, we have no control over anything except UConn. Keep winning, keep donating, keep watching, and keep investing in UConn...
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This is my mantra throughout this entire CR nightmare. Everything the UConn administration does should revolve around maintaining/improving the university and make it an institution the student body, the alumni, and the whole state can be proud of. For me, that means becoming a "national" state university -- becoming a "public ivy" would be nice. The rest of CR is out of the university's control. However, positioning ourselves by being the best we can be can only help our chances in CR. Unfortunately, given the current nature of how post-secondary education is currently underwritten, my dreams and aspirations come with a hefty price tag that REQUIRE P5 membership. If that does not happen relatively soon, and the college athletic paradigm remains the same, not only will my dreams and aspirations not come to fruition, we likely will wither on the vine.
 
Dooley said:
While I have a good time poking fun at Oh-and-BC, you're right. Their absolute ineptitude on the field and court does not help UConn out at all to get the out of this G5 hell. Fans around the country tend to group all northeast schools into one regionalized entity. While fans don't make CR decisions, enough of them voicing a generalized "the northeast sahqs" sentiment to their school's administrators can't be a good thing for us.

Ultimately, we have no control over anything except UConn. Keep winning, keep donating, keep watching, and keep investing in UConn. The northeast is way too densely populated an area in the country to give up on...even when D-II level athletics at Oh-and-BC and Rutroh exist.
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I hope our continued success and improvement really matters. But, will it? The point of the post is show that such things simply don't drive CR. If they did, wouldn't we be situated by now? I'll always give BC a whack in the nuts, because they publicly stated that they tried to undermine us. (BTW, BC has the best D-1 hockey program for the last dozen years - so I will give them credit where due.)

Rutgers? Well, what can I say? They never had much to offer before they were added to the B1G and it has only gotten worse. It had to be cable boxes ONLY for Rutgers. Now many think that BC and Rutgers doing poorly hurts us. I don't think so. The NE is still a great untapped market because there is no P-5 team worth watching. We can only help add quality content on air. Further, we have a history of success when we take on a challenge and will again.
 
Reporter: What do you think, um, was your best memory playing basketball at Boston College?

BC Sr Dennis Clifford: Probably, just like.........(drops head, about to cry)..............(looks up at the media).........going out to eat. (Drops head and goes back to trying not to cry.)

Harvard basketball looks more appealing in Boston in every way, except the talent on the opponents' teams. BC certainly doesn't have much hope in basketball. They seem content with riding their success in hockey for years to come. Flutie Effect spilled over into hockey quite well.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Well, we were all wrong. BC is absolutely commanding attention from the Boston DMA and getting national press. Looks like the ACC knew what it was doing all along!
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It seems like they are trying to respond to our 6th Borough campaign. First they complete the incredibly difficult double-ought and now this.

Doug Flutie didn’t get a Vince Lombardi trophy, but he’ll compete for the Mirrorball trophy.

Very clever BCU. I can see you are well on your way to winning the hearts and minds of the subtantial New England dance reality show fan base.
 
If we go to Alumni with a big fan contingent and then beat that team and then march out of that place ....UCONN!!......HUSKIES!! that will be it for Adazio. I mean it. I don't think the fans or administration could endure it. And at that point Bates is probably toast as well. That won't be an easy feat, but it's possible.

DeFilippo duckked that athletic department and then they compounded it with poor hires after that. Big problems there and Fr. Leahy may very well be wondering why he needs big time athletics.
 
uconndogs said:
If we go to Alumni with a big fan contingent and then beat that team and then march out of that place ....UCONN!!.HUSKIES!! that will be it for Adazio. I mean it. I don't think the fans or administration could endure it. And at that point Bates is probably toast as well. That won't be an easy feat, but it's possible.

DeFilippo duckked that athletic department and then they compounded it with poor hires after that. Big problems there and Fr. Leahy may very well be wondering why he needs big time athletics.
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Addazio may be done before the UConn game if he doesn't get that ship righted.
 
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uconndogs said:
If we go to Alumni with a big fan contingent and then beat that team and then march out of that place ....UCONN!!.HUSKIES!! that will be it for Adazio. I mean it.
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Big deal. We've already gotten Weis and O'Leary fired. Didn't do us any good.
 
uconndogs said:
Fr. Leahy may very well be wondering why he needs big time athletics.
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What's to wonder? He doesn't have them now. Only his opponents qualify as "big time."
 
SAMCRO said:
I hear the food is good at BC though, so they've got that going for them...which is nice
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Do they serve Mac and cheese with jalapeno & bacon?
 
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huskymedic said:
JonRothstein12:44pm via TweetDeck
BREAKING: Rutgers has fired Eddie Jordan, sources told @CBSSports.
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I'll give RU props for trying to do something to make a change. I look at BC and see nothing but a school with their hand out...only caring abut hockey now. Things won't change there athletically until they get a new president. It's enjoyable to watch them wither on the vine...you reap what you sow!
 
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@Woof 101 put this up in the Ultimate Double thread on the football board..it definitely fits here too:
Woof 101 said:
This may be of interest to this thread..... http://bceagles.com/watch/?Archive=1436
Very long but very insightful of the BC situation. Steve openly states that BC is not a school that can get 4 or 5 star players! This while addressing the booster club. The BC Gridiorn Club and introducing the new players on board along with the coaching staff.
Former HC Paul P is introduced with fanfare to only look disheveled and not prepared. His chum / peeper keeper, nothing he knows how to out smart. :D
The MC carries on about having Paul on board and not having to play him up at Syracuse again. Never mentions what a failure he was here.
Sad state of affaires for BC as they never show the crowed and from the sound it was very small. Again very long but don't miss Paul at -16.34 . Inspirational to say the least. ;)
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BCU says they are all about academics. So go ahead and join the Patriot League already. It would be perfect for them with the natural rivals that will come with.
 
In general, college sports are cyclical and any team can have several bad years. What is unique about BC right now is that 2 of their marquee sports are in that downward cycle at the same time. In addition, the university leadership has been appeared to be reluctant to spend that ACC cash to seek out higher level coaches and improve their facilities, which have been an issue for over a decade now. Until there are shovels in the ground and bank-account with money in it set-up for such, the recent announcement to build an indoor football practice facility and other improvements looks more like damage control PR than anything.

I was also surprised to see in the other Globe article on BC is the lack of diversity in BC sports and university leadership. The Boston area has a strong, negative reputation in the area of diversity and while as prevalent as it was back in the '60's, its still there, especially among some of the old Boston institutions. I have a friend who moved to Boston several years back to work for a large family owned company and she has a very diverse background. She left after 2 years unable to deal with it anymore and went to Atlanta. College recruiting, both athletic and academic, is a diverse game nowadays as reflected in the US's changing demographics. Concerns over diversity in and around BC will only make it a harder road for their primary sport programs to do well, especially when tied to all of their other issues.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
I was also surprised to see in the other Globe article on BC is the lack of diversity in BC sports and university leadership. The Boston area has a strong, negative reputation in the area of diversity and while as prevalent as it was back in the '60's, its still there, especially among some of the old Boston institutions. I have a friend who moved to Boston several years back to work for a large family owned company and she has a very diverse background. She left after 2 years unable to deal with it anymore and went to Atlanta. College recruiting, both athletic and academic, is a diverse game nowadays as reflected in the US's changing demographics. Concerns over diversity in and around BC will only make it a harder road for their primary sport programs to do well, especially when tied to all of their other issues.
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Having lived in CT, Philly and Boston, I find the general diversity comments kind of interesting. I was not in Boston at the height of racial tensions. Philly is so different from Boston - my impression of Philly was that pretty much everyone was black or white. I worked in a black community in north philly and about 85% of the workforce was black. I didn't really think of that as diverse. Boston today has hugely diverse neighborhoods/communities - lawrence is dominican/puerto rican, lowell is cambodian, quincy is chinese, west rox/southie is irish, mattapan is haitian, dorchester is vietnamese, framingham is brazilian, sharon is orthodox jewish and tons of portuguese communities on the south shore. I definitely see the lack of diversity in executive circles, but there is a ton of diversity in Boston proper.

Concerning BC's BOT, I'm not surprised at the lack of diversity. Ironically, my company's CEO (a cuban american) was a BOT member until BC showed a lack of business loyalty to us. He left soon after that. No big surprise but they'd be touting his presence if he was still there.
 
huskypantz said:
Having lived in CT, Philly and Boston, I find the general diversity comments kind of interesting. I was not in Boston at the height of racial tensions. Philly is so different from Boston - my impression of Philly was that pretty much everyone was black or white. I worked in a black community in north philly and about 85% of the workforce was black. I didn't really think of that as diverse. Boston today has hugely diverse neighborhoods/communities - lawrence is dominican/puerto rican, lowell is cambodian, quincy is chinese, west rox/southie is irish, mattapan is haitian, dorchester is vietnamese, framingham is brazilian, sharon is orthodox jewish and tons of portuguese communities on the south shore. I definitely see the lack of diversity in executive circles, but there is a ton of diversity in Boston proper.

Concerning BC's BOT, I'm not surprised at the lack of diversity. Ironically, my company's CEO (a cuban american) was a BOT member until BC showed a lack of business loyalty to us. He left soon after that. No big surprise but they'd be touting his presence if he was still there.
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Fair point; but, it is also telling. Boston metro is very neighborhood centric and it is clear which demographic dominates a specific neighborhood whether it be Mattapan, Lawrence, or Southie as you mention. When I lived in the city, I did not notice it myself until I started to travel for work. In the burbs of Detroit for example, I noticed how many mixed racial groups would go to a movie, a game, a bar together. Very rarely saw that in Boston. When I went from a corporate job in Boston to a corporate job in New York City, I immediately noticed the difference in the number and the level of different races in the office. Circling back to BC's issues, Boston itself has a bad history with race. In many instances, a university is on the forefront of trying to change such an environment whether it be real or imagined. Looking at their boardroom, BC is clearly not one of those institutions and that will only hurt BC in the future with respect to attracting athletic and academic talent.
 
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