There is a lot of Uconn stuff, for whatever reason. It's usually the only reason I go there, will turn it on in the background as I'm working. I like most of the guys there as well outside of Deion, who legitimately has no idea what he's talking about.
I can't wait to see Malachi feeding a posting-up Reed. Only six turnovers is incredible for your first game of the season. Hand is going to be all-ACC and a big transfer target going into his senior year if he actually wants to win some games.
Agreed. In a vacuum, they were good shots. But they were too early in the shot clock and not in the rhythm of the offense. Shots that come later in the possession, in rhythm seem to go down at a much higher rate.
Key here is "in-flow". Many of the missed shots weren't.
Just as good as early Donovan? You mean the Donovan that was MVP of the PK 80 about 3 games into his freshman season?
Looking ahead, here’s some of the non-conference lineups we can see at the 2/3 spots in big games.
Do they break down percentages of offensive rebounds by shooter vs. non-shooter? I imagine a player getting his own rebound accounts for the majority of close range O boards.Interesting topic for which there are definitely some stats nerds analytics about. Went down the rabbit hole during lunch. Most of the data are from the NBA camera analytics that chart ball and player locations dozens of times a second during every play. Allows for spatial analysis of shooting, rebound, player locations relative to the ball, height of the ball, etc. Wild stuff.
--First interesting observation:
The average distance of rebounds doesn't really change too much for 3pt vs 2pt attempts. But there is a bit more variance for 3pt vs. 2pt. (Do Longer Shot Attempts Mean Longer Rebounds? | Northwestern Sports Analytics Group)
A hand-calculated analysis with some neat graphics suggests slightly higher % of "long rebounds" for 3pt shots. However, note the distance breakdowns are not really "long" versus "short", in my opinion. They define ranges as 0-3', 4-6', 7-21'. That last range is pretty wide, and is considered a "long" rebound. I'd argue that 7-10' is not really a "long" rebound and is much different than 15-21%, but the authors don't go that granular with the data, unfortunately (Nylon Calculus: More lessons from NBA rebound tracking).
Be that as it may, here's the breakdown of average rebound length:
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We're only really talking about 1.5-2' longer rebounds for 3's, on average.
--Second interesting observation:
The data set you use (NBA season year, specific groups of teams, etc.) and study methodology can result in significantly different conclusions about OReb% based on shot type, shot distance, etc. Need context, data details, and can't over-generalize!
For example:
OReb% was found to be highest for <8ft shots and 3pt shots vs. shots in the 12-20ft range by these nerds (from data from before 2012 season):
With a neat graphic:
Shot Selection and Offensive Rebounding, Morikawa, Booker, Castellanos, and UFC 264
Optimal Shot Selection and Offensive Reboundingfindingtheedge.substack.com
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However, the OReb% was found to be similar for all missed shots >15ft, was highest for <10ft" from a 2015-16 NBA dataset- nba: how does the rise of the 3-pointer impact offensive rebounding strategy? · steven liao
To gameplan best for 3pt shooting, the team should either just (1) not do traditional "crashing" of the glass on 3pt shots, having perimeter players retreat back on D, or, (2) "soft crash" to 8-15ish ft range range, adjusting based on 3pt shot location (key, elbow, corner)
She should be concerned about the amateur hair color. I thought it looked horrid and so did my wife.
Show me where that's broken down based on 2 vs. 3 point shots, which was his point, not offensive rebounding overall
Maybe I misunderstood, but the point as I understood it was we take too many 3's and as a result are a poor offensive rebounding team. That is objectively false
Especially early in the second half. A lot of quick, pull-up threes.
Indeed. Despite BC being BAD last year, KenPom has them around the same preseason efficiency as Georgetown and Seton Hall, predicting we win at home by 15 and on the road by 10. Missing two starters and winning by 19, while shooting poorly ? I'll take it.
Nope. Pretty sure he meant as a good offensive rebounding team, you'd think we'd get a lot of them off threes, but we don't. That's what I saw as well
Yea that sounds like a recipe for basketball success.
What, you mean like a game against Florida where we generally out played them in every facet of the game but went 8-29 from 3 and lost?
My understanding is that I think you can get that level of granularity from the raw data downloads. You’d have to put it Excel and start doing some filtering, etc. But none of the articles I read broke it down by which position player got the reb
Where can you download the raw data?
He still has another month and a half.
I think it may be free or nominal cost.
www.nbastuffer.com
www.nbastuffer.com
Thank you!!I think it may be free or nominal cost.
Apparently, SportVU did it until 2017. Then NBA switched contract to Second Spectrum. The websites are here, can't check them out in detail now, but happy browsing...there's also a ton of downloadable data right off the NBA stats website:
SportVu
SportVu provides video tracking technology that has the ability to collect positioning data of the ball, players, and referees during a game.Second Spectrum
With the Second Spectrum video tracking technology, 3D spatial data is identified and augmented to generate insights and visualize new types of stats.Players Rebounding | Stats | NBA.com
A table featuring rebounding information for each player in the league based on selected filters.www.nba.com
Yeah but Koroma will see time as well. Depending on matchups and foul trouble the minutes will vary but he will be a piece. He can handle and pass, defend on the post as well.
Much more there than I thought, I agree. Seemed composed and smart with the ball, not fast on D but also uses his brains down there. Like that kid!
From this game our best O rebounder is Koroma!
He's a good rebounder as well