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Palatine said:
Yes, some of that is confidence (which is a good thing) or ego. But it doesn't help the team. I love that Boat forces the issue. BUT NOT WITH TWO MINUTES TO GO!!!!!!
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Boats last shot was a missed layup at 2:29, the three pointer was missed at 3:44, he made a layup at 4:16, in the last 5 minutes of the game he took 4 of the 7 shots he took all game. Hardly taking over the game with selfish play. Did you actually watch the game?
 
not a big deal to me as a matter of fact I like it, 2 competitive guys who are hungry to win, correct everything you gottta correct now, don't wait till tournament time to do it.
 
Bazz as freshman had more confidence than game, but he matured every year and his game eventually caught up. Boat has evolved similarly and has improved incrementally each year (perhaps not as fast as some want). Next year, Boat may not reach the level of maturity that Bazz is playing at, but I suspect he'll improve his decision making and better understand how to help the team win. If that happens, he has a chance to be one of the top 10 guards in the country.
 
Palatine said:
Did you see the Rutgers game tonight? Did you see Boat stop being a team player and take the game on himself? Did you see jack up a three with over 20 seconds on the clock?

Explain it to me.
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The circles you talk in are dizzying
 
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Bazz was wrong too. The overt display of displeasure and the foul were bad form for the team leader. Bazz has always been intense and assumed a lot of responsibility for the team since Kemba left.. He has said he had to learn how to lead and not just berate his teammates. Tonight he regressed a bit.
Perfunctory disclaimer that I love Bazz
 
David 76 said:
Bazz was wrong too. The overt display of displeasure and the foul were bad form for the team leader. Bazz has always been intense and assumed a lot of responsibility for the team since Kemba left.. He has said he had to learn how to lead and not just berate his teammates. Tonight he regressed a bit.
Perfunctory disclaimer that I love Bazz
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The foul really puzzles me. You can perhaps argue (a little) the merits of going for a dagger three that early in the shot clock with 4 minutes left (clearly bad decision, IMO - and most O's). But there is something to be said for not taking the air out of the ball too soon, as well. Boat took two bad shots within a minute of each other so it was not a good stretch for him, but you do see confident guys go for that dagger shot with 3-4 minutes left sometimes.

But up 7, you foul an 89 percent foul shooter on purpose at midcourt in the bonus and just hand them two points? Why? There are bad basketball decisions and then there's just being stupid.
 
+2
and lets not get on Welsh too much. He saw it and had to say something. Bazz/Boat are a nationally recognized backcourt, when they publicly go at it, its his job to point it out. The fact that some have seen the sniping/call it what you will for two years is probably something he, and a lot of others, didn't know.
 
Tonight we heard that KO has a big problem with his star guards. Last night we heard to the point of nausea that PC and Marquette play Big East basketball. Wisdom from the talking heads who brought us conference realignment.
 
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I knew as soon as the OP posted that it would open the Boneyard's stupid tap.

And it did.

In the last home game of their third season together, they snipe at each other during a time out and we're now worried about a chemistry problem? The earth should open up and swallow you nitwits.
 
Fishy said:
I knew as soon as the OP posted that it would open the Boneyard's stupid tap.

And it did.

In the last home game of their third season together, they snipe at each other during a time out and we're now worried about a chemistry problem? The earth should open up and swallow you nitwits.
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Fans should be a lot more worried about the lack of an inside game and especially the way Daniels has played of late.
 
Gurleyman said:
The foul really puzzles me. You can perhaps argue (a little) the merits of going for a dagger three that early in the shot clock with 4 minutes left (clearly bad decision, IMO - and most O's). But there is something to be said for not taking the air out of the ball too soon, as well. Boat took two bad shots within a minute of each other so it was not a good stretch for him, but you do see confident guys go for that dagger shot with 3-4 minutes left sometimes.

But up 7, you foul an 89 percent foul shooter on purpose at midcourt in the bonus and just hand them two points? Why? There are bad basketball decisions and then there's just being stupid.
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That was a stupid foul by Bazz esp. since the game was nowhere near won, but those two shots by Boat was even dumber. No one said to milk the clock all the way down, but just jacking up 2 poor shots in less than 10 seconds of the shot clock is back to the past 2 years of dumbest shooter in UConn history Boat. Most confident guys might take that shot, but they tend to do it when wide open and when they miss they give the opposition a better chance to come back.
 
Not a huge boat fan,most games watching Him is frustrating,but we can't win without him either Imo.
 
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Jerry27 said:
Boats last shot was a missed layup at 2:29, the three pointer was missed at 3:44, he made a layup at 4:16, in the last 5 minutes of the game he took 4 of the 7 shots he took all game. Hardly taking over the game with selfish play. Did you actually watch the game?
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Yeah, and Ollie pulled him out of the game after the three because....... or did you miss that?
 
dtrumpet said:
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and lets not get on Welsh too much. He saw it and had to say something. Bazz/Boat are a nationally recognized backcourt, when they publicly go at it, its his job to point it out. The fact that some have seen the sniping/call it what you will for two years is probably something he, and a lot of others, didn't know.
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Welsh has been doing this every game for 2 seasons now, every game he goes on and on about Bazz & Boat's relationship and how KO has to manage and deal with them. You don't hear this nonsense from any other announcer but him. Are Bazz & Boat completely in sync with each other at all times? No, but they're not two kids at each other's throats day in and day out like Welsh tries to have the audience believe.
 
aceboon said:
Welsh has been doing this every game for 2 seasons now, every game he goes on and on about Bazz & Boat's relationship and how KO has to manage and deal with them. You don't hear this nonsense from any other announcer but him. Are Bazz & Boat completely in sync with each other at all times? No, but they're not two kids at each other's throats day in and day out like Welsh tries to have the audience believe.
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Welsh also was riding Bazz for his body language and not being into the game and immediately Bazz made a nice steal off a pick and roll late in the game and it was clutch - Welsh said nothing about that!!! He's a stiff…….
 
Boat's shot selection/timing can is usually suspect at a given point in time in any game. That's him. Boat and Bazz have been playing together for years. Not really worried about. At least Boat wants the ball, something I wish Daniels acting on a bit more.
 
Palatine said:
Yeah, and Ollie pulled him out of the game after the three because.. or did you miss that?
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Except he didn't. He pulled him 1:30 later, when he missed a runner in the lane (with about five seconds in the shot clock, which was not a bad shot), and then Nolan got the rebound and was fouled. He checked out for DD, which could have been because he was mad at him, but it also may very well be that KO was looking to match up on defense since we were up by 6. Get a little more size out there, make sure you get the guys you want on Judge and Mack. He did that against Cincy as well with putting Samuel in for defense.

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2013-2014/1314mb30.html
 
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Gurleyman said:
Except he didn't. He pulled him 1:30 later, when he missed a runner in the lane (with about five seconds in the shot clock, which was not a bad shot), and then Nolan got the rebound and was fouled. He checked out for DD, which could have been because he was mad at him, but it also may very well be that KO was looking to match up on defense since we were up by 6. Get a little more size out there, make sure you get the guys you want on Judge and Mack. He did that against Cincy as well with putting Samuel in for defense.

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2013-2014/1314mb30.html
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He went to the bench right after the Bazz foul which Bazz did because he was upset with Boat.

Boat went back in at the 2:28 TO.

So, what's your point, that Bazz was wrong and Boat was not selfish? Bazz and Ollie disagree with you by their action.
 
I like them both, but both drive me nuts on occasion. Bazz and Boat both put up shots at times that they shouldn't, but Bazz' go in a fair amount of the time which makes them less visible. Boat seems to think he’s 6’3” or bigger the way he goes into the trees. I wish he’d drive and pull up more versus throwing up floaters or hoping for a foul. I’d like more drive and kicks from both of them. They did it well last night and Giffey was hitting shots after 2 early misses. Bazz seems to have more defensive lapses than anyone on the team. How many times have you seen his man wide open and Bazz running out at him too late? The foul from last night was by far the worst play he’s made all year. Just plain dumb. When Brimah is not in the game they (B & B) need to do a better job of stopping/limiting dribble penetration. Tyler is frequently victimized by coming to help and leaving his man open. If Brimah is in I’m not as concerned.
 
Palatine said:
He went to the bench right after the Bazz foul which Bazz did because he was upset with Boat.

Boat went back in at the 2:28 TO.

So, what's your point, that Bazz was wrong and Boat was not selfish? Bazz and Ollie disagree with you by their action.
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I admit I don't remember who came back out after the media TO, but I remembered Boat missing a minute later. The official play by play does not indicate a sub at 3:50, but it's possible the statisticians missed it.

But here is the thing, if Bazz fouled on purpose because he was upset with a teammate and gave Rutgers two points for no bloody reason, it's completely unacceptable. I hope Bazz is telling the truth when he says he was going for a steal and got caught and just decided to foul (which is a bad decision, but at least a basketball one). Because if he admitted he did that on purpose because he didn't like the shot that Boat took, then that's awful, stupid, selfish basketball. Just give the other team two points when you lead by 7? Why? I've seen plenty of players take bad shots going for premature daggers - I have never seen anyone foul on purpose to give a lecture. The fadeaway 3 near airball that Bazz shot was a garbage, selfish shot as well - should someone have fouled Rutgers on purpose there too to yell at him? We'd have lost the game if we fouled every time someone did something stupid (LK took a bad shot, Nolan should have kicked the ball back out, DD didn't give the ball to a guard and dribbled into a turnover, etc.).

Boat had a stretch where he looked like he played selfish - the Eurostep floater on the break with 5 to go and that three were both bad shots, clearly. Whether he thought he was going for the jugular or whether he was trying to get his late after deferring the whole game, they were bad decisions. Have no problem with him getting pulled.
 
Boat played very well overall last night. He did a little of everything. He is also extremely supportive of Hus teammates, gave Niels a huge hug during the pregame ceremony and cheers like crazy for walk on Pat Lenehan when he gets on the floor. Boat is far from perfect, but he deserves more praise than he gets on here.
 
Huskybass said:
Boat played very well overall last night. He did a little of everything. He is also extremely supportive of Hus teammates, gave Niels a huge hug during the pregame ceremony and cheers like crazy for walk on Pat Lenehan when he gets on the floor. Boat is far from perfect, but he deserves more praise than he gets on here.
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I thought he played well but did get a little selfish at the end with 3 bad shots (1 on 3 Break, 3 pointer early in the clock, Pull up jumper early in clock). It's really ashame how he is killed by our fans. The guy competes his butt off. He really has had to make the biggest sacrifices for the team and never complains. I think that Boat, Bazz, and to some degree Daniels have to cover up for some of the deficiency of the team.
 
That's it: everybody out of the pool until you've spent at least 15 seconds watching the GIF of Phil mugging for the camera while Bazz goes to help him up.
 
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