B1G

[sub legacy]

ACC is another Big East waiting to happen (with, or without, UConn).

 

[DarthGrumpy]

ACC is another Big East waiting to happen (with, or without, UConn).

Only save for the ACC is that I cannot see the NCAA big boys having less than 4 major conferences and the XII is more unstable than the ACC.

 

[Seaa Blue]

Except for these:
4. It's Pitt

Indeed...
Homecoming hell: How Eve 6 and Pitt broke everything
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/28/7080621/pitt-homecoming-georgia-tech-eve6

 

[chitown76]

UCONN= B1G can't wait to see you in Chicago.

 

[chitown76]

Sorry I forgot to mention Kansas as well.

 

[chitown76]

goodnight my boneyard brothers everything will be ok have a little faith nothing happens overnight but from what I have heard you are very very much in the picture. peace

 

[minidarren]

Indeed...
Homecoming hell: How Eve 6 and Pitt broke everything
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/28/7080621/pitt-homecoming-georgia-tech-eve6

I yearn for the day that our fans come dressed up as brought yellow seats.

 

[Ldandy]

If anyone thinks it is easy to get to PSU for a football hasn't been there. Going to PSU is a weekend event, it is not a Saturday after mowing the lawn event. It's just a different culture. you plan a weekend around it and are there Friday night. Storrs to the Rent is a cake walk compared to Route 80 to State College.

Years ago sure, but since they built the overpass it is no issue at all.

 

[RMoore1999]

goodnight my boneyard brothers everything will be ok have a little faith nothing happens overnight but from what I have heard you are very very much in the picture. peace

What are the timing triggers to B1G's next moves from what you've heard?

 

[Seaa Blue]

What are the timing triggers to B1G's next moves from what you've heard?

B1G is motivated solely by making reactionary measures to Notre Dame. So we're all waiting on ND...

 

[Gfunk]

I understand you're trying to give an analogy but that replay showed the ND wide receiver holding the FSU defender, preventing him from trying to defend the other receiver. Is the ACC perfect? Hell naw. Was Sandusky protected by the PSU old guard until he was caught? I think so. Does it change the fact that Penn State was jobbed Saturday night? No, it doesn't.

Too much of this happens it doesn't matter about the academic associations and TV monies, etc.. Integrity still matters, even when UNC and FSU continually let people down. I don't defend either of those schools' actions.

Look, you think I'm rooting for this to happen. No, what I'm saying is schools have known to change conferences for reasons other than money. PSU's perception of the Big Ten's treatment of them since they joined could be a catalyst for change. That's all I'm saying.

There was always a segment of the Texas A&M fanbase that wanted to join the SEC but weren't strong enough to force a change. Then, in one year, all that changed. Don't assume that the Big Ten is some kind of fortress that can't be breached. Things change. Organizations that don't manage feedback are looked at as stubborn and resistance to change can corrode even the most historic companies. The ACC didn't heed certain warning signs and we paid the price with losing Maryland.

Just some friendly advice.

PSU's perception of the BIG is overstated on certain boards by almost the same cast of minority characters & it's been this way for years. It's irrelevant much of the time because aliases often back off in person & get exposed for their stupidity.

You have to remember, aTm wanted into the SEC even during the SWC days. It's related to ties with Bear Bryant & leaving UT's controlling shadow. The Big 8 & SEC merger was a shotgun marriage with a ton of issues, many being trust related, from day one. The BIG simply has many, many more decades of stability and principled tradition over the current Big12 and the previous versions (SWC and Big8). Albeit, the Big 8 was a brutal conference during the 70s and 80s, great conference - probably the best during this time frame in terms of a two-headed monster: OU and Neb.

PSU's argument could be they've only been in the BIG since the early 90s, but these PSU to the ACC fans, are a crude, often cruel bunch of nasty aliases whom are also hypocrites hoping for fools gold. The ACC's upside is simply a huge risk in football, too much overlap with the SEC and now even the BIG (PSU & Pitt, IU-Purdue vs ND). There's other reasons why ND has held off on full ACC membership, and these fall in the realm of economics.

Here's the reality of aTm and even Mizzou, they'll come back down to planet earth - it's already starting with aTm, and Mizzou has shown glimpses of its inconsistent self again - Jesus they lost to IU this year. The law averages will prevail.

PS Take a longer journey down expansion history, you'll notice the conferences that change up the most are down south. I think it's inevitable that one of the Va schools will join the BIG (UVa or VT) and it will likely be Duke, not UNC, that represents the state of NC if the BIG goes into this state. But who really knows?

 

[Gfunk]

Indeed...
Homecoming hell: How Eve 6 and Pitt broke everything
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/28/7080621/pitt-homecoming-georgia-tech-eve6

That's just so depressing. Pitt should have never left campus - great old stadium. Pitt is similar to Minnesota in that they are a mid-sized metro, even smaller than Mpls-StP, an urban campus (both are great academic schools, esp graduate level), once upon a time success, and of course an NFL brand widely loved by the state is right in the mix - but even in its darkest years, Minnesota brought far more fans on average to the Metrodome.

 

[Husky25]

Heinz Field is about 45 feet from campus.

 

[Adios]

Sorry I forgot to mention Kansas as well.

If this happens, the expansion to 18 would probably include a VA school and Oklahoma/Mizzou.

Both VA schools aren't going to the SEC (VT Tech might be more desired as a football brand). And very strongly doubt either will settle for the Big 12.

 

[Kolumbo]

I google terms related to conference realignment and nothing. Absolutely nothing. The American lives.
B1G only has 9 men's soccer teams. It's amazing how much UCONN brings to the table, it would lift so many sports in B1G Country other than football. Basketball, Soccer, Baseball, Hockey, Field Hockey. And football would rise to at least the middle of the pack, no question. Just depressing.

 

[upstater]

Heinz Field is about 45 feet from campus.

It's not far from campus but it's certainly not that close. It's 2 miles away and over the river. Given the size of some midwestern campuses, I would say 2 miles is practically still campus, but being in a city makes it seem like it is farther away than it is.

 

[Kolumbo]

It's not far from campus but it's certainly not that close. It's 2 miles away and over the river. Given the size of some midwestern campuses, I would say 2 miles is practically still campus, but being in a city makes it seem like it is farther away than it is.

Two miles in a city is nothing, IMO. It's still the city. When I lived in the city i used to walk about 3-4 miles to work each day round trip. People walk everywhere. And if you are tailgating then distance is not a factor. Plus, the setting at Heinz Field with PNC Park, the skyline, the river, unmatched.

 

[pj]

Two miles in a city is nothing, IMO. It's still the city. When I lived in the city i used to walk about 3-4 miles to work each day round trip. People walk everywhere. And if you are tailgating then distance is not a factor. Plus, the setting at Heinz Field with PNC Park, the skyline, the river, unmatched.

Unmatched, until you put the Panthers on the field.

 

[Husky25]

It's not far from campus but it's certainly not that close. It's 2 miles away and over the river. Given the size of some midwestern campuses, I would say 2 miles is practically still campus, but being in a city makes it seem like it is farther away than it is.

Didn't catch the exaggeration, huh?

 

[upstater]

Didn't catch the exaggeration, huh?

I did.

But having gone to school in a city, I know distances are counted differently, especially in a town without a subway. When everyone has a car because they need a car, distance is nothing. But I remember not going to games that were on the other side of the city.

 

[Husky25]

I did.

But having gone to school in a city, I know distances are counted differently, especially in a town without a subway. When everyone has a car because they need a car, distance is nothing. But I remember not going to games that were on the other side of the city.

Just giving you a hard time, Upstater. No harm intended, but Pitts students have nothing to complain about when comparing distances from campus to their home stadium. 2 miles is a h3ll of a lot closer to 45 feet than 25 miles.

 

[upstater]

Just giving you a hard time, Upstater. No harm intended, but Pitts students have nothing to complain about when comparing distances from campus to their home stadium. 2 miles is a h3ll of a lot closer to 45 feet than 25 miles.

When there's a lackawanna, you can be 2 miles or 20 miles away.

 

[Gfunk]

Heinz Field is about 45 feet from campus.

I don't know about that. Not the main campus, it's across one of two major bridges over the Allegheny, I guess some foot bridges as well - a lot of density and infrastructure in between.

The West Bank of the University of Minnesota was closer to the Metrodome than Heinz to Pitt's main campus. Minnesota's East Bank requires crossing the Miss, similar for Pitt students going to Heinz. Like Pitt, problem for Minny students was getting to the Metrodome via a practical walk - most students live on the East Bank. Regardless, students across the country aren't exactly going to games on time and often leaving early, this includes the SEC and other non-SEC campuses where student housing is quite close to the stadium.

NFL stadiums simply aren't a good match for CF minus a game here and there, every year or two - see Miami as well.

 

[Kolumbo]

NFL stadiums simply aren't a good match for CF minus a game here and there, every year or two - see Miami as well.

Or Army-Navy.

 

[Husky25]

I don't know about that. Not the main campus, it's across one of two major bridges over the Allegheny, I guess some foot bridges as well - a lot of density and infrastructure in between.

The West Bank of the University of Minnesota was closer to the Metrodome than Heinz to Pitt's main campus. Minnesota's East Bank requires crossing the Miss, similar for Pitt students going to Heinz. Like Pitt, problem for Minny students was getting to the Metrodome via a practical walk - most students live on the East Bank. Regardless, students across the country aren't exactly going to games on time and often leaving early, this includes the SEC and other non-SEC campuses where student housing is quite close to the stadium.

NFL stadiums simply aren't a good match for CF minus a game here and there, every year or two - see Miami as well.

You missed the exaggeration as well and Minnesota no longer plays at the HomerDome. Kind of tough to play sporting events on a demolition site.