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Why Is the Big Ten Still Called the Big Ten?​

6 reasons why the conference has kept its name​

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Time to go back to using The Intercollegiate Conference of Faculty Representatives. It just rolls off the tongue.
 
Who cares what the Big 10 calls itself and why. Fans of non P4 football teams should not watch any intra-P4 cartel football games. They have used their collective power to gain additional power and money to the detriment of non-cartel teams.
 
Enrique said:
Who cares what the Big 10 calls itself and why. Fans of non P4 football teams should not watch any intra-P4 cartel football games. They have used their collective power to gain additional power and money to the detriment of non-cartel teams.
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Right. Everyone knows conferences don't want to change names because they built a brand. Big East, ACC, SEC were smart about it. Plus a conference with Rutgers is suspect.
 
Kolumbo said:
Right. Everyone knows conferences don't want to change names because they built a brand. Big East, ACC, SEC were smart about it. Plus a conference with Rutgers is suspect.
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"Big East, ACC, SEC were smart about it." With Stanford and Cal in the Atlantic Coast Conference, Texas and Oklahoma in The Southeast Conference, and Creighton and Butler in The Big East, you can pretty much dispel that notion. Nobody predicted how crazy realignment would become, in particular the persons tasked with naming the conferences.
 
Ldandy said:
"Big East, ACC, SEC were smart about it." With Stanford and Cal in the Atlantic Coast Conference, Texas and Oklahoma in The Southeast Conference, and Creighton and Butler in The Big East, you can pretty much dispel that notion. Nobody predicted how crazy realignment would become, in particular the persons tasked with naming the conferences.
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CR is crazy but The Big East brand is very strong, as is the ACC. Heck even the PAC 12 still sounds good despite it being a G conference now. The numbers in the conference name make no sense but it is still the brand names of several conferences. Including the A-10.
 
Kolumbo said:
CR is crazy but The Big East brand is very strong, as is the ACC. Heck even the PAC 12 still sounds good despite it being a G conference now. The numbers in the conference name make no sense but it is still the brand names of several conferences. Including the A-10.
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Agree. I always thought Aresco was foolish to give up the big east brand.
 
Kolumbo said:
CR is crazy but The Big East brand is very strong, as is the ACC. Heck even the PAC 12 still sounds good despite it being a G conference now. The numbers in the conference name make no sense but it is still the brand names of several conferences. Including the A-10.
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Correct. The equity is in the brand not in the actual number or real geographic location of its members.
 
BigTenFan said:
Big 10 academic competition between universities is just as important or more important than athletic results.
Every school wants to be ranked highest in every discipline.
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lol

I have this bridge you might be interested in.
 
BigTenFan said:
Big 10 academic competition between universities is just as important or more important than athletic results.
Every school wants to be ranked highest in every discipline.
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Berkeley & Stanford strenuously disagree
 
www.nytimes.com

Why North Carolina is more valuable than you think in college football’s future

UNC could be attractive to both the Big Ten and the SEC in the future. It's not because of football success ... or Bill Belichick.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

This article provides details on when Rutgers and Maryland will receive a full revenue share from the B1G. I think it is the first time I have seen a date in print...........


However, neither Maryland and Rutgers (which became Big Ten members in 2014) nor Oregon and Washington (which joined alongside USC and UCLA in 2024) saw day-one vested membership. For six years, Maryland and Rutgers collected media rights stipends commensurate with what they would have received from their previous conferences. The Big Ten allowed both schools to borrow against future earnings, and they finally will receive whole shares starting in 2027. Maryland, which took in more than $125 million from the Big Ten in grants and loans from 2014 to 2020, was financially strapped after leaving the ACC and still struggles to catch up with its Big Ten brethren. Maryland reported the lowest revenue among the holdover Big Ten public schools in 2024.

“Most people didn’t know the dire financial straits of the program,” former Maryland president Wallace Loh told The Athletic last year. Loh described the Big Ten’s financial package as “one of the largest contracts ever, to have Maryland join the Big Ten.”

Rutgers, which borrowed $48 million against future earnings, did not receive the same financial assistance.


The Big Ten brought in USC and UCLA as fully vested members, which led to both earning valuations beyond their current financial profile. In the 2024 fiscal year, which coincided with its final season as a Pac-12 member, UCLA reported $19.93 million in media rights revenue, according to figures obtained by The Athletic through an open-records request. With a $75 million Big Ten payment in fiscal 2025, UCLA’s $55 million increase in media rights could help erase a $51 million shortfall the athletic department reported as a Pac-12 member. USC, which is a private university, is not subject to open-records laws but would earn the same revenue.

Oregon and Washington earn media half-shares before becoming vested members in 2030, which aligns with a new Big Ten media rights deal. However, those schools were in strong revenue situations preceding their Big Ten acceptance, which is why their valuations soar beyond most Big Ten colleagues. Oregon enjoys one of college sports’ greatest brands, and its close financial relationship with Nike keeps the department fiscally vibrant. Washington will borrow from the Big Ten against future earnings, but in fiscal 2024 it generated $190 million before it left the Pac-12.
 
www.latimes.com

After successful Big Ten debut, UCLA has designs on something even bigger

UCLA earned 10 conference titles across the Big Ten and Mountain Pacific Sports Federation — more than any other Big Ten school — and aims for more.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com

UCLA clearly looks like it's hurting from the B1G move.

One slight clarification from the article ---- if you count ONLY B1G titles, Oregon won the most at 8. UCLA was tied for second with Ohio State at 7.
 
Rufus said:
www.latimes.com

After successful Big Ten debut, UCLA has designs on something even bigger

UCLA earned 10 conference titles across the Big Ten and Mountain Pacific Sports Federation — more than any other Big Ten school — and aims for more.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com

UCLA clearly looks like it's hurting from the B1G move.

One slight clarification from the article ---- if you count ONLY B1G titles, Oregon won the most at 8. UCLA was tied for second with Ohio State at 7.
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The school plans to partner with an outside firm to help its athletes with content creation to boost their social media following, making them more attractive to brands that could hire them for name, image and likeness deals.

Ah using the UConn/D'amelio model.
 
BigTenFan said:
Big 10 academic competition between universities is just as important or more important than athletic results.
Every school wants to be ranked highest in every discipline.
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Honest to god it amazes me what people will believe to protect their view of the world.......
 
Interesting opinion from one writer about UNC fitting BIG better than SEC. When I read this I couldn't help but think that UConn fits his narrative that its overall athletics offerings including MBB, WBB, Baseball, Softball, M&W Ice hockey, VB and soccer helps BIG better than most other colleges. WLax is pretty good as well and if only UConn would add MLax (which IMO they'd be national title contenders within five years if/when they add it) then UConn would be every bit as attractive as UNC is to make BIG the best overall athletics conference.

Ah, but football.....

What do you think?

 
broooce said:
Interesting opinion from one writer about UNC fitting BIG better than SEC. When I read this I couldn't help but think that UConn fits his narrative that its overall athletics offerings including MBB, WBB, Baseball, Softball, M&W Ice hockey, VB and soccer helps BIG better than most other colleges. WLax is pretty good as well and if only UConn would add MLax (which IMO they'd be national title contenders within five years if/when they add it) then UConn would be every bit as attractive as UNC is to make BIG the best overall athletics conference.

Ah, but football.....

What do you think?

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It’s all true. But these conferences just don’t believe in the Northeast as football country anymore. Cuse, BC and Rutgers completely dropped the ball.
 
The Big Ten just added 4 very big football brands after whiffing with Rutgers and Maryland. Oregon was certainly a football move. They figured it out. It's about football. Does that mean it will still only focus on football, or will it go after UNC and UVA? The ACC was always more of a southern conference but the SEC trumps all, so I think UNC would be more than OK going with the SEC if offered a spot. Vandy, Texas, Georgia, Florida. All more than fine schools.

Will the SEC still only focus on football, or also consider UNC? It's always the chicken and the egg. Conferences carry programs, programs carry conferences, and sometimes they help each other out.

I think Arizona State is the next big thing. Decent football, the Pheonix market, and lots of Big Ten alumni move there, I think.
 
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