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B12 and ACC on the clock!

Stinger92860 said:
If you mean the grown man who lives in his mothers basement in the woods of wva, then yes
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I said on Twitter that he’s been slinging garbage for years that’s never come to fruition, ya never know tho
 
Big10 or Big East

They want to actually be a basketball powerhouse instead of a first weekend conference, we're here for you
 
AZHuskiePop said:
They may not help but they’re not the root cause .
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There can be more than one root cause. And if you don't want to make the conference the prime, I disagree, but fine. But one thing that can't be argued is once the death spiral came, we were not getting out of it by staying there. It was a millstone, an albatross. A millbatross. Last week just doesn't happen in the AAC.
 
Waquoit said:
There can be more than one root cause. And if you don't want to make the conference the prime, I disagree, but fine. But one thing that can't be argued is once the death spiral came, we were not getting out of it by staying there. It was a millstone, an albatross. A millbatross. Last week just doesn't happen in the AAC.
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I understand your premise here that a change needed to be made after things got as bad as they did...but a week last week DID happen in the AAC. I get it was a transition year but you can't revise it out of existence. If Ollie simply kept coaching it could have happened again.

Ollie and the Diaco-tross are the reasons both basketball and football went into relative tailspins...and they are the reason the likes of Cincinatti, UCF, BYU, and Houston jumped UConn in the Power 5/Big 12 pecking order.

It also seems that blaming the AAC is the way UConn fans who oddly hate the football program excuse past bball failures.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
If enough schools collude by finding new landing spots, the ACC's GOR, which is the only thing holding the league together, goes bye bye. If there are at least eight schools of value from the ACC that can secure a spot in the B1G/SEC/Big XII that would do it, and the Big XII at least I think will take anyone.
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People keep thinking this is true.

It is not.
 
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DGB said:
I understand your premise here that a change needed to be made after things got as bad as they did...but a week last week DID happen in the AAC. I get it was a transition year but you can't revise it out of existence. If Ollie simply kept coaching it could have happened again.

Ollie and the Diaco-tross are the reasons both basketball and football went into relative tailspins...and they are the reason the likes of Cincinatti, UCF, BYU, and Houston jumped UConn in the Power 5/Big 12 pecking order.

It also seems that blaming the AAC is the way UConn fans who oddly hate the football program excuse past bball failures.
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Um, your last line doesn't apply to Waquoit: He's been a football season ticket holder since at least the opening of the RENT.
 
Kolumbo said:
Moving from the Big East to the ACC causes teams to suck.
Moving from the Big East to the ACC has a positive correlation to sucking.
Either way, Fork that!
Seriously though, there is more than enough reason to be concerned and UCONN is in a very strong position.
UCONN has been in the news more than any other university these past few weeks. It would be interesting if someone could quantify the value of that media bonus to the University and to the state.
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You missed a key factor. Moving from a conference with UConn to one without UConn has a correlation to sucking. This would not apply to us of course. It's not the ACC that is the issue for Cuse, BC and Pitt, VT, Louisville or WVU (note Miami did not suck). It's being deprived of UConn.

UConn to the ACC would revive all of those moribund programs. UConn is basketball mana.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Yeah, but the thing is, schools in that conference that could legitimately land in the B1G or SEC aren't leaving the ACC as the cost to depart is too prohibitive, even with B1G or SEC money as the reward.

Message board comments lamenting a move that cannot be undone have no more value than someone here posting about the benefits if we were to join the B1G, or settle with joining the ACC or B-12.
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Yep. There is no magic way out of the GOR as Fishy noted. None of those schools are going anywhere for a decade. The only reason they bitch at all is that they make less money, but it is stable money. The Pac is screwed. The Big XII quickly took a lifeboat deal and left the Pac to drown. The ACC is third best conference and it is likely to remain the 3rd best conference. It's not a sinking ship, it's a less luxurious yacht than the SEC or B1G, but we're in a freaking Sunfish sailboat.

As for UConn, the ACC is by far the best semi-realistic option. The Big 12 would vastly prefer to pick off Pac Schools adjacent to its footprint. We are an absolute fit in the ACC as constituted right now. Great basketball, good baseball, formerly good soccer, decent football. There isn't a better landing spot, and no we don't really look like a Big 10 school. The enrollment and research emphasis just aren't there.
 
HuskyHawk said:
There isn't a better landing spot, and no we don't really look like a Big 10 school. The enrollment and research emphasis just aren't there.
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UConn Research Surges to Record Level

We are working on it, but a long way to go to get to B1G levels

“UConn puts a great deal of attention and work into the support and cultivation of its research, and we have many reasons to be optimistic based on our trajectory in recent years that this growth is a trend that will continue,” says Radenka Maric, UConn’s Vice President for Research, Innovation, and Entrepreneurship.
 
DGB said:
I understand your premise here that a change needed to be made after things got as bad as they did...but a week last week DID happen in the AAC. I get it was a transition year but you can't revise it out of existence. If Ollie simply kept coaching it could have happened again.

Ollie and the Diaco-tross are the reasons both basketball and football went into relative tailspins...and they are the reason the likes of Cincinatti, UCF, BYU, and Houston jumped UConn in the Power 5/Big 12 pecking order.

It also seems that blaming the AAC is the way UConn fans who oddly hate the football program excuse past bball failures.
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Lol, did this makes sense in your head?
 
DGB said:
It also seems that blaming the AAC is the way UConn fans who oddly hate the football program excuse past bball failures.
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I've had season tickets for football going on 23 years. The AAC sucked for football, too.

(thanks, coach)
 
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DGB said:
Ollie and the Diaco-tross are the reasons both basketball and football went into relative tailspins...and they are the reason the likes of Cincinatti, UCF, BYU, and Houston jumped UConn in the Power 5/Big 12 pecking order.
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Part, I said "part", of the reason that those schools got the call ahead of UConn, is because of location.
 
This link is a good way to compare research funding:

P5 schools in top 100.

#88 UConn

B1G
#3 Michigan
#6 UCLA
#8 Wisconsin
#12 Ohio State
#17 Maryland
#22 Minnesota
#26 Penn State
#28 USC
#30 Northwestern
#37 Illinois
#39 MSU
#40 Indiana
#41 Purdue
#45 Rutgers
#50 Iowa
#87 Nebraska


ACC
#11 Duke
#13 UNC
#18 Pitt
#20 GT
#48 Virginia
#54 Virginia Tech
#53 NC State
#75 Miami


Big 12
#38 Baylor
#51 Cincinnati
#72 Kansas
#77 Iowa State

SEC
#16 Texas A&M
#19 Texas
#24 Vandy
#27 Florida
#57 Georgia
#64 UK
#71 Missouri
#74 Oklahoma
#94 USC-e
#97 MSU
#100 Auburn

Pac-12
#5 Washington
#9 Stanford
#32 Cal
#36 Arizona
#42 Arizona State
#47 Utah
#52 Colorado
#94 Oregon State
 
Slasher said:
This link is a good way to compare research funding:

P5 schools in top 100.

#88 UConn

B1G
#3 Michigan
#6 UCLA
#8 Wisconsin
#12 Ohio State
#17 Maryland
#22 Minnesota
#26 Penn State
#28 USC
#30 Northwestern
#37 Illinois
#39 MSU
#40 Indiana
#41 Purdue
#45 Rutgers
#50 Iowa
#87 Nebraska


ACC
#11 Duke
#13 UNC
#18 Pitt
#20 GT
#48 Virginia
#54 Virginia Tech
#53 NC State
#75 Miami


Big 12
#38 Baylor
#51 Cincinnati
#72 Kansas
#77 Iowa State

SEC
#16 Texas A&M
#19 Texas
#24 Vandy
#27 Florida
#57 Georgia
#64 UK
#71 Missouri
#74 Oklahoma
#94 USC-e
#97 MSU
#100 Auburn

Pac-12
#5 Washington
#9 Stanford
#32 Cal
#36 Arizona
#42 Arizona State
#11 Utah
#52 Colorado
#94 Oregon State
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You have to like Connecticut’s trend line over the last 10 years.
 
CL82 said:
Lol just a brief throw away mention one of 15 possibilities mentioned.
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For at least a half dozen years most of these national podcasts mentioned UConn only if they were giving examples of horrible football teams. It is progress to be discussed as possible conference members among 6 to 12 other schools.
 
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LoyalFanCT said:
For at least a half dozen years most of these national podcasts mentioned UConn only if they were giving examples of horrible football teams. It is progress to be discussed as possible conference members among 6 to 12 other schools.
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I agree. It had gotten to the point where UConn was never mentioned in any realignment scenarios. I think it was last year that I posted that it was like UConn had dropped off the face of the earth.
 
jostar1 said:
It could come out of nowhere. Somebody could overhear something. Like this guy:

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I mean I think we all expected a return to the big east, I don’t think anyone was shocked by it, that dude has been spouting garbage for close to a decade about UConn going to the Big12 and it’s never come to fruition.
 
ZOOCONN said:
I mean I think we all expected a return to the big east, I don’t think anyone was shocked by it, that dude has been spouting garbage for close to a decade about UConn going to the Big12 and it’s never come to fruition.
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It was also posted by a member of the Boneyard two weeks before the DigitalSportsDesk guy tweeted it. That's what I meant by saying someone could overhear something.

uconngb said:
I know I'll get crucified for this thread, but just passing along something I heard today, because it came from a very credible source. Largest private donor at Providence, directly involved in their athletic department and knows Tranghese well (who he says UConn hired as a consultant at some point) says he's 95%+ sure that UConn will be joining the NBE in 2021. Says the school gave Herbst the authority to do it on her way out the door, football will be killed so the next President doesn't have to deal with it and we'll move to the NBE. I couldn't believe it as I've heard nothing as specific about it, but this is a credible, connected guy.

All pile on now....

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UConn to the NBE?

I know I'll get crucified for this thread, but just passing along something I heard today, because it came from a very credible source. Largest private donor at Providence, directly involved in their athletic department and knows Tranghese well (who he says UConn hired as a consultant at some...
the-boneyard.com the-boneyard.com
 
CL82 said:
Lol just a brief throw away mention one of 15 possibilities mentioned.
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Heard the new Big12 commissioner is BIG on basketball and would like to expand East as well-especially NYC. Create a mega BB power. Time will tell.
 
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ElGreco said:
Heard the new Big12 commissioner is BIG on basketball and would like to expand East as well-especially NYC. Create a mega BB power. Time will tell.
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Yeah, I’ve seen that too. I just don’t see how the math Works.
 
ElGreco said:
A lot depends on the future of the Pac12.
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Maybe, but the big 12 would have to pay big east teams will north of 20% of the per team rate. I don’t see that happening.
 
CL82 said:
Maybe, but the big 12 would have to pay big east teams will north of 20% of the per team rate. I don’t see that happening.
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Maybe the math works for one of the premier men's/women's dual basketball school that has football on the rise?
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Maybe the math works for one of the premier men's/women's dual basketball school that has football on the rise?
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Yes, if it’s either in all sports offer or has a clear path to football joining within a reasonable period of time.
 
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