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AP Top 25 Week 18: UCLA with 3 #1 votes

What exactly was the flaw in 2017. UConn lead the nation in everything, boasting 3 x 1st team AA’s, with wins over Baylor, SC, MD, tOSU, UCLA, OR, LSU, ND, etc.
We lacked size because the NCAA delayed the eligibility of Azura. MSU had an advantage in that regard.

Overall, that team had a BPM of 14.1 and WS/40 of 0.289. In comparison, the 2018 team had a BPM of 14.5 and WS/40 of 0.307. 2018 was a more complete team but they couldn't overcome the refs.
 
I was talking about strength of schedule, not seeding
I must say that I agree with Tonyc on this one, particularly if you look at how UConn & UCLA performed against common opponents.
 
UCLA odds of winning the NCAA championship is currently around +700 which seems like a much better value than UConn at -300.
I am confused by your comment. A negative number implies the market believes UConn has a greater chance of winning the championship.

If you are a gambler and UCLA wins, you will get a higher payout.
 
I'm feeling kinda petty today, so here you go:

Percy Allen, The Seattle Times
Sam McKewan, Omaha World-Herald/HuskerExtra
Alex Simon. SF Gate
Really not a fan of publicizing their names. Yes they are there and can be looked up by anyone, but it doesn't need to be easily redistributed, making it easier for fans -of any program- to harass or threaten them. JMHO.
 
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I am confused by your comment. A negative number implies the market believes UConn has a greater chance of winning the championship.

If you are a gambler and UCLA wins, you will get a higher payout.

That's what I said, a bet on UCLA is a better value than a bet on Uconn based strictly on the given odds.
 
We lacked size because the NCAA delayed the eligibility of Azura. MSU had an advantage in that regard.

Overall, that team had a BPM of 14.1 and WS/40 of 0.289. In comparison, the 2018 team had a BPM of 14.5 and WS/40 of 0.307. 2018 was a more complete team but they couldn't overcome the refs.
I’m afraid that dog won’t hunt. In that season UConn beat ND, MD, KSU, SC & a towering Baylor team, all of whom had more size than UConn. In the MS St game, our 5’11” center was the game’s leading scorer and rebounder with 21 & 8. Vic took away our shooters and the players who killed us were his guards, particularly Morgan William who was all of 5’5”.

Furthermore what about this past season’s championship when UConn’s most potent lineup had a 6’2” center and a 6’ combo guard playing power forward?
 
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Vic Schaefer is a defensive mastermind who has put together and executed game plans to beat more talented teams, including an undefeated UConn in the FF back when he was the HC at MS St. Yesterday, TX absolutely exposed SC’s weaknesses. Honestly, I would rather play any other top team than TX.

Vic is an excellent defensive coach, but the Mississippi State scheme that broke our 111-game winning streak was reportedly devised by Assistant Coach Carly Thibault, with the likely help of Mike Thibault. She is now the Head Coach at a very fine Fairfield team.
 
What exactly was the flaw in 2017. UConn lead the nation in everything, boasting 3 x 1st team AA’s, with wins over Baylor, SC, MD, tOSU, UCLA, OR, LSU, ND, etc.
The flaw was size. Big time. Pheesa had to play the 5 against against Teaira McCowan!!! She was my favorite and it kinda pissed me off that she was put in that position. Its a testament to how freaky good Pheesa and Gabby were to go almost undefeated without a post player over 6-1.

Poor Natalie Butler had the size but not the skill level for UConn. I was happy she was able to transfer out and find success.
 
Like Iowa?
UConn beat Iowa soundly by 26 early in the season. How about tOSU? UConn beat them by 32. UCLA just beat them by 10.
 
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Vic is an excellent defensive coach, but the Mississippi State scheme that broke our 111-game winning streak was reportedly devised by Assistant Coach Carly Thibault, with the likely help of Mike Thibault. She is now the Head Coach at a very fine Fairfield team.
I’m guessing Vic poked his nose in when they were working on the scheme.
 
Furthermore what about this past season’s championship when UConn’s most potent lineup had a 6’2” center and a 6’ combo guard playing power forward?
Its about matchups. Against UCLA Jana played 23 minutes, Ice played 14 key minutes when Jana had to sit with foul trouble. they both did an incredible job of making betts life difficult and earn her points, so by the 4th quarter Betts was gassed.
 
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I saw some of the Iowa v. Michigan game over the weekend. For folks who watched the Iowa v. UCLA game, what did folks think? Was Iowa gassed after a tough game? UCLA more than doubled the Iowa shooting percentage. That is usually the sign of a slaughter.
 
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In the MS St game, our 5’11” center was the game’s leading scorer and rebounder with 21 & 8.
UConn also got out rebounded by 6, out offensive rebounded by 8, and Mississippi State took almost 20 more shots than UConn.
 
I would also rank UConn #1, but I don't get why everyone hates on Close. Yes, UCLA looked BAD in last year's final four, but UConn also dominated SC in the title game (yes, not as bad, but no one was beating UConn last year). UCLA also beat UConn pretty handedly the previous year in the Cayman Islands, so it's not like Close can't win big games.

I think for last year's UCLA team, it was their first ever final four and then felt like the big hurdle to get over (that plus UConn being a bad matchup for them and also playing like crap).

I'm not convinced UCLA has fixed the issues that hurt them last year against UConn, but they basically only play seniors (beyond Little Betts), they pass the ball really well, and everyone can shoot. To beat the Huskies, they will need to be hot from 3, limit turnovers, win the rebounding battle, and hope UConn has an off shooting night.
 
Tony, UCLA has a far more difficult schedule. They are 18-1 in Quad 1 (the best teams) wins and their record is 31-1 overall while UConn is 8-0, 33-0. UConn is #1 in the NET because it’s undefeated. Lose one game and the Huskies fall back to the pack

BTW, South Carolina is 12-3 in Quad 1 wins and Texas is 14-3.
Interesting that UCLA’s only loss was to Texas back in November.
 
Not to quibble too much but I’m not certain I would really consider Mohegan Sun a true neutral site.
I'm not sure there are many (or any) true neutral sites in the BE for UConn. Every game I've been to in the BE there's almost always a majority of UConn fans in the seats. The main difference at Gampel is that the student section will be packed there.
 
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UCLA is a really good team but Why now give UCLA 3 1st place votes. They didnt over the past few weeks. I dont like it. What are they trying to do.
 
UCLA is a really good team but Why now give UCLA 3 1st place votes. They didnt over the past few weeks. I dont like it. What are they trying to do.
Exactly. Nothing has changed over the past 6 weeks between UConn and UCLA, a period during which the Huskies got all 31 votes. So why all of a sudden do 3 clowns decide to vote for UCLA?
 
A poll is an opinion. Their opinion on the top team changed. In the same way that their opinion on teams 4-25 changed most weeks.
Yes, but usually something happens to change that opinion: a Big win, a bad loss, something. IMO, as well as Tonyc’s, nothing happened to warrant that change of opinion.

In the grand scheme of things, those 3 votes will have no impact on the Selection Committee’s seeding decisions. But the vote changes were curious to say the least.
 
Yes, but usually something happens to change that opinion: a Big win, a bad loss, something. IMO, as well as Tonyc’s, nothing happened to warrant that change of opinion.
lol. Yeah nothing notable about their results this weekend.
 
Exactly. Nothing has changed over the past 6 weeks between UConn and UCLA, a period during which the Huskies got all 31 votes. So why all of a sudden do 3 clowns decide to vote for UCLA?
To a neutral observer from say Seattle, plenty has happened over last 6 weeks.

UCLA won both the Big10 regular season title and tournament title in convincing fashion, and added about 8 more quad 1 wins. (Duke similar for ACC, which is why they most likely grab the last #2 seed)

I feel pretty good that UConn will remain #1 overall seed, but do understand why there is at least some merit to a discussion.
 
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