AP Poll: UConn drops out

[dante]

After yesterdays performance UConn shouldnt be ranked and like another poster said why should Memphis drop when UConn is the one that lost this weekend.

 

[dante]

No way should UConn have been dropped, what 5 spots and out of the top 25. Based on the following data these teams should have checked in as follows: Memphis 21, SMU 22 and UConn 24 or 25. I have no problems with SMU jumping back into the top 25 and over UConn and a few other teams. UCLA and the Zags were bounced from the top 25 deservedly, but to vote New Mexico in and keep Texas (granted two tough road losses to ranked teams) over UConn, again shows prejudice IMO.

Here's how SMU, Mempis and UConn stack up against one another:

SMU: (RPI-37) 22-6
Against one another: 3-0 against UConn (2-0) and Memphis* (1-0)
Record against other common AAC ranked opponents: UL (0-1), Cinci* (1-1)
Other top 25: UVA (0-1) who's now #12
Unranked and/or Bad Losses: at ARK, USF & Temple
*Against top 25 in Feb: 3-0 with Ws over Memphis, Cinci & UConn.

Memphis: (RPI-36) 20-6
Against one another: 0-3 against UConn* (0-2) and SMU* (0-1)
Record against other common AAC ranked opponents: UL (0-1), Cinci* (0-1)
Other Top 25: OKST (1-1), Zags* (1-0), UF (0-1) ranked #1 and a common top 25 opponent w/ UConn
Unranked and/or Bad Losses: None
*Against top 25 in Feb: 1-2 with two of those losses against UConn & SMU.

UConn: (RPI-30) 22-6
Against one another: 2-2 against Memphis (2-0) and SMU (0-2)
Record against other common ranked opponents: UL (0-1) and UC (0-1)
Other Top 25: UF (1-0) ranked #1 now though weren't at full strength when we beat them at home.
Unranked and/or Stanford, at Houston,
*Against top 25 in Feb: 1-2 with the W over Memphis and the Ls against SMU & UC.

Clearly the voters didn't do their homework.

Granted Memphis does not have any WTF losses like UConn and SMU have, but they lost to UConn and SMU this month, are 0-3 head-to-head with those two teams, and their only other quality win this month was against the Zags. Even though they went 2-0 last week, those Ws were against AAC bottom feeders RU & Temple. How they went up one spot to 21 is beyond me.

As for UConn, we did go 1-2 head-to-head this month, though just beat Memphis for the 2nd time the week-before-last. We have a couple WTF losses this season, which seems to continue to be weighted heavily against us still. And of course we just lost yesterday to a surging SMU, which IM deserves to be ranked and is a surprisingly very good team.

SMU - If not for two WTF losses relatively recently, at USF on 1/28 & at Temple on 2/16, the case for a higher ranking that the other two programs would be a no-brainer. I'm sure the voters noticed the recent Ws against Memphis, Cinci & UConn, making it an easy case to move them back into the top 25.

We're still in striking distance of the top 25. If we take care of business, winning at USF and then hold court and beat UC, something we couldn't do against SMU, we'll be right back into the top 25 next week.

Memphis actually beat Louisville in the pizza house

 

[DogMania]

Memphis actually beat Louisville in the pizza house

Thanks for correcting me on that. I fixed it above. I really don't think there is a lot of separation between the 3 teams. If both UConn and Memphis can manage to beat UC over the next couple weeks, the separation between the 4 of the top 5 AAC schools closes even further.

 

[Kitaman]

I just hope the big (Govan 2015) that was at the game does not go elsewhere after watching that hot steamy pile. An impressive victory could have locked him in- other then that it simply was a bad game- that's all.

At the very least he certainly knows he's needed. I felt worse for the 99 team, we gave them little to root for.

 

[Kitaman]

As for the UConn ranking arguments, many posters are making good, strong, rational, thoughtful, and calculated observations.

My question is; "do you really think the 'human' pollsters (who have full time jobs and families) are doing the same when they rank teams each week?"

 

[Jerry1714]

It's at the time of play. That's how it works...

No it is not, especially for the tournament committee, they look at the current RPI rankings of the teams when counting their top 50 wins, ect. Maybe in your mind what a team is ranked in November matters, but not in reality.

 

[Jerry1714]

No way should UConn have been dropped, what 5 spots and out of the top 25. Based on the following data these teams should have checked in as follows: Memphis 21, SMU 22 and UConn 24 or 25. I have no problems with SMU jumping back into the top 25 and over UConn and a few other teams. UCLA and the Zags were bounced from the top 25 deservedly, but to vote New Mexico in and keep Texas (granted two tough road losses to ranked teams) over UConn, again shows prejudice IMO.

Here's how SMU, Mempis and UConn stack up against one another:

SMU: (RPI-37) 22-6
Against one another: 3-0 against UConn (2-0) and Memphis* (1-0)
Record against other common AAC ranked opponents: UL (0-1), Cinci* (1-1)
Other top 25: UVA (0-1) who's now #12
Unranked and/or Bad Losses: at ARK, USF & Temple
*Against top 25 in Feb: 3-0 with Ws over Memphis, Cinci & UConn.

Memphis: (RPI-36) 20-6
Against one another: 0-3 against UConn* (0-2) and SMU* (0-1)
Record against other common AAC ranked opponents: UL (1-0), Cinci* (0-1)
Other Top 25: OKST (1-1), Zags* (1-0), UF (0-1) ranked #1 and a common top 25 opponent w/ UConn
Unranked and/or Bad Losses: None
*Against top 25 in Feb: 1-2 with two of those losses against UConn & SMU.

UConn: (RPI-30) 22-6
Against one another: 2-2 against Memphis (2-0) and SMU (0-2)
Record against other common ranked opponents: UL (0-1) and UC (0-1)
Other Top 25: UF (1-0) ranked #1 now though weren't at full strength when we beat them at home.
Unranked and/or Stanford, at Houston,
*Against top 25 in Feb: 1-2 with the W over Memphis and the Ls against SMU & UC.

Clearly the voters didn't do their homework.

Granted Memphis does not have any WTF losses like UConn and SMU have, but they lost to UConn and SMU this month, are 0-3 head-to-head with those two teams, and their only other quality win this month was against the Zags. Even though they went 2-0 last week, those Ws were against AAC bottom feeders RU & Temple. How they went up one spot to 21 is beyond me.

As for UConn, we did go 1-2 head-to-head this month, though just beat Memphis for the 2nd time the week-before-last. We have a couple WTF losses this season, which seems to continue to be weighted heavily against us still. And of course we just lost yesterday to a surging SMU, which IM deserves to be ranked and is a surprisingly very good team.

SMU - If not for two WTF losses relatively recently, at USF on 1/28 & at Temple on 2/16, the case for a higher ranking that the other two programs would be a no-brainer. I'm sure the voters noticed the recent Ws against Memphis, Cinci & UConn, making it an easy case to move them back into the top 25.

We're still in striking distance of the top 25. If we take care of business, winning at USF and then hold court and beat UC, something we couldn't do against SMU, we'll be right back into the top 25 next week.

I think you need to realize how the polls work, from one voter: "I've always felt the AP poll was supposed to be current situation and NCAA seeding was reserved for overall resume."

Comparing resumes is not what they do, never have.

You do realize New Mexico beat Cincy? Beat SDST? Has higher RPI than us? Same amount of Top 50 wins? Playing the same SOS and have won 9 of 10. It is not bias why they are ranked over us, not even close.

 

[ColoradoUCFan]

Oh man screw this. This team STINKS

21-6. No they don't. I can't imagine what you were saying this point in 2011.

 

[Bryan Lord]

21-6. No they don't. I can't imagine what you were saying this point in 2011.

It's just a boneyard meme brotha. WE STINK and should of hired Shaka.

 

[upstater]

Let's see, who is playing tonight?

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20140226&breakdown=top25

 

[CTBasketball]

Let's see, who is playing tonight?

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20140226&breakdown=top25

UConn is. And you can either buy a foot long from Subway or go to the UCF game.

 

[upstater]

UConn is. And you can either buy a foot long from Subway or go to the UCF game.

Nope, not the link off the frontpage. You went a'searching.

 

[James]

Nope, not the link off the frontpage. You went a'searching.

forget that, do you guys see boeheim looking like a complete fool in that video screen shot? looks like he's going to attempt to fly off a building or something.