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UC990411 said:
Right, because Garnett and Bynum stories are the norm. Fact is, tons of kids have potential, but only a few have the drive, only a few fall into the perfect learning situation. In all honestly I don't think you can say college or the NBA is a better learning experience. I guess I'm selfish because I'd rather see him develop here , contribute and win than sit on a bench develop and succeed a few years down the line in the NBA
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Yeah, like Andre's athletic ability is the norm. If he never learns how to play offense or shoot he is a taller and more athletic Ben Wallace.
 
Keep in mind Toronto's centers last night were Aaron Gray, Amir Johnson and Valanciunas. Again, I'm not saying AD won't be a good NBA player but let's not get carried away. He wasn't playing against Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum last night
 
Monroe and Drummond can be great together. Complementary pieces that could be really scary in the future.
 
It was the preseason and the Raptors are atrocious but it was a very impressive debut. He'll benefit so much from being around PG's that can get him the ball in the right places at the right time and make the game easier for him. Plus the spacing of the NBA game will make life much easier for him compared to being swarmed in 2-3 zones by a bunch of 6'7 college kids. I've said it over the last several months but he should have no problem being DeAndre Jordan, maybe more quickly than I thought.

UC990411 said:
Keep in mind Toronto's centers last night were Aaron Gray, Amir Johnson and Valanciunas. Again, I'm not saying AD won't be a good NBA player but let's not get carried away. He wasn't playing against Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum last night
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True, but there aren't many great defensive bigs anymore anyway and most of AD's points will come on pick and rolls and drives and dishes where his defender has left him to help. It won't really matter who's guarding him, he's not going to be going 1v1 with his back to the basket anytime soon.
 
UC990411 said:
He wasn't playing against Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum last night
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This is an excellent point.
Against these guys he's going to be extra motivated and his numbers will probably be higher.
Good thought.;)
 
UC990411 said:
Keep in mind Toronto's centers last night were Aaron Gray, Amir Johnson and Valanciunas. Again, I'm not saying AD won't be a good NBA player but let's not get carried away. He wasn't playing against Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum last night
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Aaron Gray averaged almost 17 minutes a game last year. Amir Johnson almost 24 minutes a game last year. Valanciunas was the #5 pick in 2011 and would have probably been higher if he was in the 2012 draft.

Sure it's not the cream of the crop, but it's still pretty good considering all of those guys are likely better than anyone he faced in college (Royce White aside).
 
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U know, I was worried about Andre leaving early. Not sure if he was making the right decision. In his 3rd game of his NBA career, he is going to be fine. The kid is going to be alright. If he keeps working and learning, he could be really good. He reminds me of Kevin Garnett when he first came into the league years ago.
 
Andre killin' it. Rebound, block shots, take shots 3 feet and in. Staff using him well. I think his only misses are on a couple of jumpers.
 
19 points on 9-13 shooting along with 10 rebounds and 2 blocks against the Bucks in 25 minutes.
 
I know it's just the preseason, but Drummond looks like he could be a superstar in the making with the way he's played so far. Two really impressive performances so far on both sides of the ball. We all know he has the physical talent to dominate, let's hope he puts it to use as he represents UConn well in the NBA.
 
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I hate to say this but he boxed out more in that video than he did his whole freshman year in Storrs.......good for him.......he looked very good and did the things which will help make him successful.
 
UC990411 said:
Keep in mind Toronto's centers last night were Aaron Gray, Amir Johnson and Valanciunas. Again, I'm not saying AD won't be a good NBA player but let's not get carried away. He wasn't playing against Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum last night
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I'd like you to return to this thread and post when you believe that we're not all getting carried away.

19/10/2/2 pts/r/a/st in 25 minutes, and +2. Starting center was 9/4/0/0 in about the same amount of time, and -20.

I love the way you pick the two toughest match ups in the league and say, with your negativity, "he wasn't playing one of these guys." No. Obviously. If he put up those numbers on the best guys in the league, then he would be among the best guys in the league. And he's not playing against those guys in all but a few games a year, of course.

His 40 minute stat line is about 35/14/3/3.

What's the thought here? Another team with crappy, inferior centers and, consequently, inflated numbers?

Minimally, give the kid some freaking credit here. He's 19, he's been in the league 3 games. And more importantly, if you watched him closely last year and you watched him in the Pistons games, you should be able to see that his improvement has already been dramatic.

It gets really scary for the other team when the biggest guy on the court is also the most athletic guy on the court, which is what it looked like last night.

Detroit must be wetting their pants. They got a huge steal.

I'll post updates on the following guys, who got taken ahead of Drummond:
Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, Thomas Robinson, Damian Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross
I love the fact that Portland took Lillard.

Holy Christ, it's like there's a Big-Man Drafting Genetic Retardation gene being carried in the Portland management.


Drummond has the chance to go down as one of the greatest steals in the history of the NBA draft. Somebody took Dion Waiters ahead of Drummond? Srsly?

How's that for getting carried away?
 
dapriest is correct here.........I was one of the people who felt AD underachieved at UConn and still do........but what's on that video is exactly what he needs to be, which is a big outworking the others. He continuously fought for position and offensive rebounded like a man. If he just does that with his ability he will make an impact never mind if he eventually improves his offensive game. The rebounds which he caught, kept the ball way up for putbacks is also a major improvement. Good for Andre.........
 
Nice to see Andre running the floor so well. That was an NBA skill he had in high school. No so nice to see that many of the put-backs came from Charlie V.'s bricks. Charlie stinks, I hope he's saving his money.
 
dapriest said:
I'd like you to return to this thread and post when you believe that we're not all getting carried away.

19/10/2/2 pts/r/a/st in 25 minutes, and +2. Starting center was 9/4/0/0 in about the same amount of time, and -20.

I love the way you pick the two toughest match ups in the league and say, with your negativity, "he wasn't playing one of these guys." No. Obviously. If he put up those numbers on the best guys in the league, then he would be among the best guys in the league. And he's not playing against those guys in all but a few games a year, of course.

His 40 minute stat line is about 35/14/3/3.

What's the thought here? Another team with crappy, inferior centers and, consequently, inflated numbers?

Minimally, give the kid some freaking credit here. He's 19, he's been in the league 3 games. And more importantly, if you watched him closely last year and you watched him in the Pistons games, you should be able to see that his improvement has already been dramatic.

It gets really scary for the other team when the biggest guy on the court is also the most athletic guy on the court, which is what it looked like last night.

Detroit must be wetting their pants. They got a huge steal.

I'll post updates on the following guys, who got taken ahead of Drummond:
Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, Thomas Robinson, Damian Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross
I love the fact that Portland took Lillard.

Holy Christ, it's like there's a Big-Man Drafting Genetic Retardation gene being carried in the Portland management.


Drummond has the chance to go down as one of the greatest steals in the history of the NBA draft. Somebody took Dion Waiters ahead of Drummond? Srsly?

How's that for getting carried away?
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Good analysis. The biggest concern I have with Andre is his personality. Different people have different abilities to generate motivation. Kemba, KFree and Ray are three good examples of people whose will to win helped them overcome some physical limitations. There are very few players in bb, past or present, who have the physical attributes of Andre. The question is whether he can generate the will to win day in and day out.

I'm thrilled he is starting off really well. His legacy, imo, will be determined by whether he can sustain the same excitement level over a long season and, hopefully, a long career.
 
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Tonight - 9 pts, 3 boards, 4 blocked shots, +24!!! In 17 minutes.
Extended out to 40, about 20/7/9 +48.
Beastly. The +24 is a crazy number - he must have altered a lot of shots.
 
mauconnfan said:
I was one of the people who felt AD underachieved at UConn and still do .....
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I never understood this.

Drummond averaged 10 points, 8 boards and 3 blocks a game as a freshman. That is probably the greatest freshman year ever under Jim Calhoun.

Drummond did not under achieve. He just didn't live up to some people's crazy expectations.
 
BarkingDog said:
I never understood this.

Drummond averaged 10 points, 8 boards and 3 blocks a game as a freshman. That is probably the greatest freshman year ever under Jim Calhoun.

Drummond did not under achieve. He just didn't live up to some people's crazy expectations.
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Sorry did you just see what he did against the Bucks in the NBA, not in college......a few months after his freshman year??????? I believe if he worked that hard for position like in the video, hung around the interior more often, didn't take stupid fade away jumpers and made a FT here he could have easily averaged what he did against the Bucks, last year for UConn. And to say it was the greatest freshman year under Jim Calhoun is crapping on many that were better including most recently Jeremy Lamb who won a national title his frosh year and Josh Boone who did the same and was an impact and overachieved..........sorry I hope he does good but let's call a spade a spade here.......
 
I like AD but man get the duckk outta here with this comment. As for AD with the Pistons, I know the Pistons want to take things slow with him but they might be better served starting him right off the bat, defensively he looks great in man to man(I expected this after Enes Kanter couldn't even move him in the post during the summer) and surprisingly in pick and roll as well, he's already an upgrade over Maxiell. AD & Greg Monroe will be one of the better starting big man tandems in the league very soon.

BarkingDog said:
I never understood this.

Drummond averaged 10 points, 8 boards and 3 blocks a game as a freshman. That is probably the greatest freshman year ever under Jim Calhoun.

Drummond did not under achieve. He just didn't live up to some people's crazy expectations.
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I know Orlando rested most of their lead players, but man, will they suck!

What a crappy roster! Shows what a difference Dwight Howard truly made (despite being a distraction and headache for the franchise).
 
Waquoit said:
We didn't get his best shot last year.
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I'm not directing this at you, Waquoit. But I hope he ends up being a beast this year and beyond, and people don't equate his freshman year with the disappointing year the team had. They all underachieved.

AD could have played the same way last year, and we could have had a shot at repeating. As we know, the chemistry sucked and there was some dissent among key players. That's the biggest disappointment from last year. I will always be thankful that AD chose to be a Husky for one year and will always root for the kid.

Besides he's a pretty exciting player to watch. I'm sure Pistons fans are thrilled to have him, and I think with his highlight reel plays, he will be popular with fans of other teams as well.
 
Huskies4ever said:
I'm not directing this at you, Waquoit. But I hope he ends up being a beast this year and beyond, and people don't equate his freshman year with the disappointing year the team had. They all underachieved.
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I agree with you 4. I'm rooting for the guy. You knew there was a place in the NBA for him just by the way he can run the floor. I hope his game keeps growing.
 
When Andre played hyped at UConn, even with his raw style of basketball, he seemed unstoppable. He is going to play hyped every game in the NBA, so excited to see how his season goes.
 
FeedTheDove said:
When Andre played hyped at UConn, even with his raw style of basketball, he seemed unstoppable. He is going to play hyped every game in the NBA, so excited to see how his season goes.
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Remember the first Syracuse game? Remember how he was killing it, and then went down with an ankle injury. If he was able to sustain that, that team would have turned it around.
 
FeedTheDove said:
When Andre played hyped at UConn, even with his raw style of basketball, he seemed unstoppable. He is going to play hyped every game in the NBA, so excited to see how his season goes.
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"When he played hyped..." I guess that says it all huh?? Can't remember enough "hyped" games to make his the best freshman season ever.....I think Waqy said it best...we didn't get AD's best.......for his sake hope he's rady to play "hyped" 82 plus times a year or things will be tough!!
 
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