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Andre’s shooting

This is who hes been and who he is.

This never flies. This usually translates “lazy”. He is much younger than adamo.
Sanogo worked entire summer for 3 pointers, and the result showed. He is definitely a hard working kid, but he may not work on what he needs most. If I were AJ and shooting is identified as my glaring weakness and that’s the sole factor stopping me getting into League, I’m going to take whatever it takes, including completely change my shooting form, style or mechanics.
 
This never flies. This usually translates “lazy”. He is much younger than adamo.
Sanogo worked entire summer for 3 pointers, and the result showed. He is definitely a hard working kid, but he may not work on what he needs most. If I were AJ and shooting is identified as my glaring weakness and that’s the sole factor stopping me getting into League, I’m going to take whatever it takes, including completely change my shooting form, style or mechanics.
Youre right. Im sure he hasnt done any of that. :rolleyes:
 
As I pointed out yesterday, Andre's pinky and ring finger are still taped together. Try shooting a ball with those fingers held together. He should shoot less until he's healed (only wide open 3s), but y'all are overreacting about his shooting ability. The same injury robbed Sanogo of all his touch at the end of last season. Patience.


Andre's release is still ugly and that has nothing to do with the fingers. He still has that hitch in his shot put type which is not pretty. He just isn't a shooter and as @HailUConn said he should of been working on his shot all summer like Sanogo to improve it.
 
This never flies. This usually translates “lazy”. He is much younger than adamo.
Sanogo worked entire summer for 3 pointers, and the result showed. He is definitely a hard working kid, but he may not work on what he needs most. If I were AJ and shooting is identified as my glaring weakness and that’s the sole factor stopping me getting into League, I’m going to take whatever it takes, including completely change my shooting form, style or mechanics.
Much younger than Sanogo? He’s actually older than him. Turned 21 a couple weeks ago; Sanogo turns 21 in February. Remember, Adama reclassed a year up.
 
Much younger than Sanogo? He’s actually older than him. Turned 21 a couple weeks ago; Sanogo turns 21 in February. Remember, Adama reclassed a year up.


Good catch, but he is still young pup in my eyes! I mean, come on, imagine he adds shooting to his game and maybe some post-up plays? His stock will sky rocket and he will definitely help hang a NC banner for us.
 
This never flies. This usually translates “lazy”. He is much younger than adamo.
Sanogo worked entire summer for 3 pointers, and the result showed. He is definitely a hard working kid, but he may not work on what he needs most. If I were AJ and shooting is identified as my glaring weakness and that’s the sole factor stopping me getting into League, I’m going to take whatever it takes, including completely change my shooting form, style or mechanics.
There's dozens of threads from over of the summer about Andre working on his shot, and working on his form. It looked much better. Let's see what he looks like when he's healthy and without his fingers taped, we already saw a huge improvement with his shooting last season
 
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This never flies. This usually translates “lazy”. He is much younger than adamo.
Sanogo worked entire summer for 3 pointers, and the result showed. He is definitely a hard working kid, but he may not work on what he needs most. If I were AJ and shooting is identified as my glaring weakness and that’s the sole factor stopping me getting into League, I’m going to take whatever it takes, including completely change my shooting form, style or mechanics.
You chose to ignore all the replies about his broken finger, that’s on you. Sanogo isn’t taking pull up 3s either.
 
Do you seriously think his poor shooting comes from lack of work? Id bet no one works harder than AJ. For what ever reason he failed to develop fundamentally on his offense when he was developing and got by with his superior athletic ability. This is who hes been and who he is. I would expect very little improvement this season unless he starts just attacking the rim and trying to dunk everything.
Welp, I expect improvement.
 
At this point AJax needs to stop worrying about being an outsdide shooting threat. We have plenty of those. Just find a way to upfake and go to the rim using your athleticism and hit drives, layups, and dunks. Be who you are. You are not Steph Curry. Who cares ! Play well and win games!
 
Personally, I believe the best role for Andre is to be the defensive stopper off the bench until he gets stuff figured out offensively. I’m not sold that it’s the fingers, injury. It’s the out of control, extremely loose, play. Like I’m certain he’s turning it over every time he touches the ball. Still a very difficult player to criticize given how bought in he is and how hard he reps UConn. Maybe some pregame meditation for him.
 
At this point AJax needs to stop worrying about being an outsdide shooting threat. We have plenty of those. Just find a way to upfake and go to the rim using your athleticism and hit drives, layups, and dunks. Be who you are. You are not Steph Curry. Who cares ! Play well and win games!
I was going to post something similar….this 100%. His hesitancy to take it to the hole is more troubling To me than his outside shot. He passed several times when he could have gone to the basket
 
Give him an honest break re: his fingers when it comes to driving hard. We'll see.
His 3 is a one-off unique for a player that isn't a born scorer. Good move adding this. It was better last season and won't get worse.
We and he should embrace the incredible things he does bring: enormous disruption and facilitation.
 
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There's dozens of threads from over of the summer about Andre working on his shot, and working on his form. It looked much better. Let's see what he looks like when he's healthy and without his fingers taped, we already saw a huge improvement with his shooting last season
Amen! He's not going to give up; that we can be assured of. So neither should we give up on him. This edition of the Huskies has come out as a team. You can see the unity and unselfishness. Let's enjoy the ride and watch as this season unfolds into something we have long been waiting for.
 
I’m 100% sure he worked on his shot during the off season. But Hurley was also looking at this roster, and I expect that he asked AJ to focus on his ball handling and passing as top priorities knowing that the team needed a second PG behind/with Newton.

I’d have to do some slo-mo video to give an analysis of where his shot goes wrong. Yes, he was a lot more effective last season than his FR year. But his form was still…wrong. It needs to get fixed. And even without doing that, he is a leader who contributes a ton to the team.
 
A lot of posters don’t have the processing power to realize every game won’t be a carbon copy of the last two. They can’t fathom that there will be games where Alleyne and Jackson come up big and where Calcaterra doesn’t.
 
I’m 100% sure he worked on his shot during the off season. But Hurley was also looking at this roster, and I expect that he asked AJ to focus on his ball handling and passing as top priorities knowing that the team needed a second PG behind/with Newton.

I’d have to do some slo-mo video to give an analysis of where his shot goes wrong. Yes, he was a lot more effective last season than his FR year. But his form was still…wrong. It needs to get fixed. And even without doing that, he is a leader who contributes a ton to the team.


This is the best, most constructive input I’ve seen so far. I’m positive that Hurley has priorities for him for the team, but again, the angle of discussion is focusing on Andre.

My closing remark is that I really want this kid to succeed because of his loyalty and heart. I hope he develops a better shooting form.
 
Personally, I believe the best role for Andre is to be the defensive stopper off the bench until he gets stuff figured out offensively. I’m not sold that it’s the fingers, injury. It’s the out of control, extremely loose, play. Like I’m certain he’s turning it over every time he touches the ball. Still a very difficult player to criticize given how bought in he is and how hard he reps UConn. Maybe some pregame meditation for him.

If nothing else for chemistry and consistency, bringing Andre off the bench as an "energy" guy seems to be working.

Gone are the days of scoring 2-4 points in the first six minutes of game and spending the rest of the game clawing back in to it. The current starters play well together and provide plenty of offense and defense to get the game going. Having Jackson, Calcaterra, Clingan, and Diarra to come off the bench provides Hurley with plenty of options to mix and match based on the flow of the game.
 
A lot of posters don’t have the processing power to realize every game won’t be a carbon copy of the last two. They can’t fathom that there will be games where Alleyne and Jackson come up big and where Calcaterra doesn’t.

I think everyone expects that to happen but none of that has anything to do with Jackson's inability to consistently hit the rim (nevermind making the shot) when he shoots outside of 10'.
 
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There's dozens of threads from over of the summer about Andre working on his shot, and working on his form. It looked much better. Let's see what he looks like when he's healthy and without his fingers taped, we already saw a huge improvement with his shooting last season

I don't agree with these guys but the people posting about Andre's improved shooting form were clueless. Yeah he had a little bit more fluidity to it and his footwork improved. So it's certainly a bit better... but FAR from a shot that looks right.

He still grips the ball wrong, holds it too far from his face, has bad balance, no rhythm, etc. His shooting % improved because of reps and confidence, not because his form was even remotely close to good.
 
I’m not going to give final judgement on him until at least another 4-6 games & he gets his hand back Untappd.

All reputable accounts had him living in the gym over the summer so the people in this thread implying he hasn’t been putting in the time are silly. I also love the armchair coaches who want the opportunity to do slo-mo video analyses to fix his shot…do you honestly think our coaching staff hasn’t been doing that?

The videos released leading into the season showed an MUCH improved (albeit still flawed & unpretty shot as compared to Hawk & Joey Coldcuts). These of course were in a practice setting.

The corner 3 he hit against Del St off a set play was a decent looking 3. Importantly, it was in rhythm and was in the flow of the game.

Honestly it seems like right now he is plying with SO MUCH energy on D that he’s then too hyped/wound up when he’s on the perimeter on O. One of his 3s vs Alabama had decent form & was just a little strong. The others were forced and looked ugly. Needs to mentally slow down. Things will improve when that happens (which I think it will). He did have a really nice dribble drive and actually laid it in…vs doing his floater.

Gotta have some patience!
 
Like a poster said in the last thread… try to love….that said Andre is the life blood of this team… when he’s ready to move on from uconn he will be in the nba… think a bigger and more athletic Marcus Smart
 
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Like a poster said in the last thread… try to love….that said Andre is the life blood of this team… when he’s ready to move on from uconn he will be in the nba… think a bigger and more athletic Marcus Smart

I understand what you're getting at, but nah. Smart averaged 18ppg as a sophomore in college and shot 30% from deep on 5 attempts per game. He was one of the best college players in the country his sophomore year. Andre isn't even remotely close to that level of production offensively. Smart has earned his reputation as an elite defender, but he has a respectable scoring package as well. He's averaged 10ppg in the league.

Andre is absolutely the life-blood of this team. Might get picked in the 2nd round, but I think it's fair to say he has a long, long way to go to be a serious NBA player.
 
I said it in a different thread, but if Andre can shoot 33% on his threes (most of which will be open shots because of how our offense works) and keep everything else the exact same, we'll be singing his praises for years
 
He makes plays and when he focuses on his man he can defend as well. He may never be able to shoot it, I mean if he can’t get to the elbow by now when’s it going to happen? He is what he is an important piece no matter. Problem is you need to have scorers scoring when hes playing because 4 on 5 can stress the offense.
 
It’s the pinky. How do I know? Go back and watch him last year. His shots were miles better than after the finger injury. Don’t worry he will be back to what he was but he’s not the Hawk, Joey or Alex, never will be.
‘My question is this: does anyone on this board have inside information to our basketball’s staff’s approach to his shot ie; what was done over summer or what work was prescribed? Did he do it> Or… did the staff just say well that’s the way he shoots. Wondering.
I kind of thought after freshman year they would have stripped everything down and worked with him on his mechanics. I remember hearing about it how much he was in the gym and I figured that’s what was happening. As it was, he was just getting in more reps grooving his heart shot mechanics.

He is, who he is, and I’m glad we have him on the team.
 
His shot is completely broken. More reps in the gym wasn't going to fix it. His scoring on the whole is completely broken. His best move outside of a lob is a flat floater he shoots at 40%. In retrospect, his jumper was too broken to be functional and needed a rebuild from the ground up a la Sanogo. That wasn't really predictable, so I'm not blaming anyone. I think it's just obvious that mechanically and mentally he has a gigantic barrier scoring the rock.

The fact that he is a good starting caliber player in the Big East despite being an absolute 0 scoring the ball is a testament to just how good he is everywhere else. Tenacity, toughness, rebounding, ball pressure, passing, etc. If he keeps his turnovers and fouls to reasonable levels, he might be our 3rd best player despite not being able to score. It's unbelievable really.
Agree that it's broken and agree with another poster who said there is no short term fix by working in the gym - his shooting and handle inside the foul line are major deficiencies - so I don't really think he'll be going anywhere next year. Those deficiencies were there all of last year - nothing to do with the injury.
 
Jackson should constantly be rolling to the rim for layups and lob dunks. I’m still baffled why he stands behind the 3 point line for most of the games.
 
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