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Mod, please delete this if redundant.


Let’s not make this a song of fire and ice, and let’s have a cool headed discussion about this.

I’ll start with a live example, food for thought so to speak.

AS knows he needs to add outside shooting in order to get into the league, and he worked his tails off in the off season, and now he draws attention from scouts.


With AJ, a smart kid and awesome coaches around him, I cannot help but think it must cross his mind or the idea must have broached when shooting is most lacking in his game to get him yo his league. Do I think it’s pinkie injury affecting his shots? I’d like to but I cannot honestly think so.


This will be my only wish for AJ to work on when this season is over.
 
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I need him to work on it now not when season is over. Stay extra in the gym with Newton and Alleyne
 
His shot is completely broken. More reps in the gym wasn't going to fix it. His scoring on the whole is completely broken. His best move outside of a lob is a flat floater he shoots at 40%. In retrospect, his jumper was too broken to be functional and needed a rebuild from the ground up a la Sanogo. That wasn't really predictable, so I'm not blaming anyone. I think it's just obvious that mechanically and mentally he has a gigantic barrier scoring the rock.

The fact that he is a good starting caliber player in the Big East despite being an absolute 0 scoring the ball is a testament to just how good he is everywhere else. Tenacity, toughness, rebounding, ball pressure, passing, etc. If he keeps his turnovers and fouls to reasonable levels, he might be our 3rd best player despite not being able to score. It's unbelievable really.
 
HailUConn said:
Let’s not make this a song of fire and ice, and let’s have a cool headed discussion about this.

I’ll start with a live example, food for thought so to speak.

AS knows he needs to add outside shooting in order to get into the league, and he worked his tails off in the off season, and now he draws attention from scouts.


With AJ, a smart kid and awesome coaches around him, I cannot help but think it must cross his mind or the idea must have broached when shooting is most lacking in his game to get him yo his league. Do I think it’s pinkie injury affecting his shots? I’d like to but I cannot honestly think so.


This will be my only wish for AJ to work on when this season is over.
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I think it's pretty clearly the injury affecting his shots. He identified that he needed to work on his shot LAST offseason, and then proceeded to shoot 36% from 3 last year. A 4 game sample with his fingers taped isn't going to change my opinion on him not being able to shoot
 
navery12 said:
I think it's pretty clearly the injury affecting his shots. He identified that he needed to work on his shot LAST offseason, and then proceeded to shoot 36% from 3 last year. A 4 game sample with his fingers taped isn't going to change my opinion on him not being able to shoot
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Injury is effecting it. You can see him hesitate. I think he can be penciled in for 35% or so on a couple of attempts per game when he is wide open. The way he shoots right now will never allow him to shoot well off the dribble or when contested though--it's a mechanical thing.
 
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Love AJ but his offense is awful right now, missing the first four games is certainly a factor. IF Andre learns to score even 8-10 points in the flow of the game, this team becomes an extremely tough out. AJ works really hard, so I'm confident he will get there.
 
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Andre is going nowhere with a shot like that.

I can't believe that there hasn't been a coach in Jackson's history that has tried to change his shot. That boy has no clue how to shoot. Athletic as all heck and will obviously stay on the floor because of his defense, rebounding and passing. But it's painful to see him shoot or try to score...
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husky429 said:
His shot is completely broken. More reps in the gym wasn't going to fix it. His scoring on the whole is completely broken. His best move outside of a lob is a flat floater he shoots at 40%. In retrospect, his jumper was too broken to be functional and needed a rebuild from the ground up a la Sanogo. That wasn't really predictable, so I'm not blaming anyone. I think it's just obvious that mechanically and mentally he has a gigantic barrier scoring the rock.

The fact that he is a good starting caliber player in the Big East despite being an absolute 0 scoring the ball is a testament to just how good he is everywhere else. Tenacity, toughness, rebounding, ball pressure, passing, etc. If he keeps his turnovers and fouls to reasonable levels, he might be our 3rd best player despite not being able to score. It's unbelievable really.
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Totally agree. He doesn't need to be an offensive threat on this team with so many weapons already. He needs to be our defensive lockdown which is invaluable enough..
 
Don’t see why he can’t develop a jump hook. With his hops he should be able to back in on his defender and dominate down low.
 
AJ is at best our fifth or sixth option on offense. He just needs to be credible enough to occupy his defender. Let him do what he does well.
 
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GlastonTim said:
Don’t see why he can’t develop a jump hook. With his hops he should be able to back in on his defender and dominate down low.
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He did show that jump hook a few games last year. I would like to see him on the post more or top of the key in zone as I think he is more effective there than on the outside.
 
We have so many shooters, I hope the offense can focus more so on him as a hyper-athletic initiator of the offense and then slashing for a second/third pass for a shot within 10 feet.
 
It’s the pinky. How do I know? Go back and watch him last year. His shots were miles better than after the finger injury. Don’t worry he will be back to what he was but he’s not the Hawk, Joey or Alex, never will be.
‘My question is this: does anyone on this board have inside information to our basketball’s staff’s approach to his shot ie; what was done over summer or what work was prescribed? Did he do it> Or… did the staff just say well that’s the way he shoots. Wondering.
 
It’s maddening. The shooting form/style is bizarre. This guy is All World with any kind of shooting ability.
 
As I pointed out yesterday, Andre's pinky and ring finger are still taped together. Try shooting a ball with those fingers held together. He should shoot less until he's healed (only wide open 3s), but y'all are overreacting about his shooting ability. The same injury robbed Sanogo of all his touch at the end of last season. Patience.

 
jibsey said:
It’s the pinky. How do I know? Go back and watch him last year. His shots were miles better than after the finger injury. Don’t worry he will be back to what he was but he’s not the Hawk, Joey or Alex, never will be.
‘My question is this: does anyone on this board have inside information to our basketball’s staff’s approach to his shot ie; what was done over summer or what work was prescribed? Did he do it> Or… did the staff just say well that’s the way he shoots. Wondering.
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good question but its hard to correct baked in flaws in a shooters style once they get about 15 or 16 years old - I'd like to try, however.
 
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husky429 said:
His shot is completely broken. More reps in the gym wasn't going to fix it. His scoring on the whole is completely broken. His best move outside of a lob is a flat floater he shoots at 40%. In retrospect, his jumper was too broken to be functional and needed a rebuild from the ground up a la Sanogo. That wasn't really predictable, so I'm not blaming anyone. I think it's just obvious that mechanically and mentally he has a gigantic barrier scoring the rock.

The fact that he is a good starting caliber player in the Big East despite being an absolute 0 scoring the ball is a testament to just how good he is everywhere else. Tenacity, toughness, rebounding, ball pressure, passing, etc. If he keeps his turnovers and fouls to reasonable levels, he might be our 3rd best player despite not being able to score. It's unbelievable really.
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He has to prove he can make a shot
for the team ,of course, however his defense nullifies it somewhat , but his future earnings are pretty much directly proportional to his shooting %.
 
jibsey said:
It’s the pinky. How do I know? Go back and watch him last year. His shots were miles better than after the finger injury. Don’t worry he will be back to what he was but he’s not the Hawk, Joey or Alex, never will be.
‘My question is this: does anyone on this board have inside information to our basketball’s staff’s approach to his shot ie; what was done over summer or what work was prescribed? Did he do it> Or… did the staff just say well that’s the way he shoots. Wondering.
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There was a video posted here over the summer that showed Andre shooting 3's, and his form looked much improved over last year. I have to believe his finger is the problem. I think he'll improve as his finger fully heals, but I'd still like to see him finish those floaters in the lane.
 
Regardless of his shooting, I'd like to see the +/- on a game by game basis. He was the second highest last night according to the Athletic (Diarra was first) and it hasn't been coincidental. He was on the court when they blitzed UMC Wilmington as well as much of the time against Oregon and he may be leading the team regardless of missing two games.
 
BuffaloHusky said:
Regardless of his shooting, I'd like to see the +/- on a game by game basis. He was the second highest last night according to the Athletic (Diarra was first) and it hasn't been coincidental. He was on the court when they blitzed UMC Wilmington as well as much of the time against Oregon and he may be leading the team regardless of missing two games.
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+18 against Alabama, +11 against Oregon, +9 against Delaware State, +33 against UNCW
 
To fix what is missing, he needs to work has tail off on every other facet of the game while he is playing including going after loose balls on the floor. His defense is second to none, and his leaping ability to take the ball off of the glass is at times spectacular. My heart breaks for the kid, because he has most everything, but his lack of being able to shoot puts him miles away from getting to the next level. it is inexplicable to me how the mechanics of his shot are not there. He shoots flat footed and just doesn't look comfortable on O. I wish the best for him, because he has so much talent.
 
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his dudeness said:
As I pointed out yesterday, Andre's pinky and ring finger are still taped together. Try shooting a ball with those fingers held together. He should shoot less until he's healed (only wide open 3s), but y'all are overreacting about his shooting ability. The same injury robbed Sanogo of all his touch at the end of last season. Patience.

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Pretty decent crowd reaction after that make.
 
Time and again, BYers amazed me. I’m not talking about his role on this team and provide what’s required of him to win, rather, what will make him individually better at basketball, at least career wise.
 
Glastonhusky said:
There was a video posted here over the summer that showed Andre shooting 3's, and his form looked much improved over last year. I have to believe his finger is the problem. I think he'll improve as his finger fully heals, but I'd still like to see him finish those floaters in the lane.
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I think that was prior to last season. At this point he either produces with what he’s got or rebuilds his shot. He’s got to rebuild it for the NBA but I’d wait until April to start that process.
 
UconnFanDC said:
I need him to work on it now not when season is over. Stay extra in the gym with Newton and Alleyne
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Do you seriously think his poor shooting comes from lack of work? Id bet no one works harder than AJ. For what ever reason he failed to develop fundamentally on his offense when he was developing and got by with his superior athletic ability. This is who hes been and who he is. I would expect very little improvement this season unless he starts just attacking the rim and trying to dunk everything.
 
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