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Pretty clear to the vast majority that Amari looked less energetic and unsure than any of our other posts, She has some passing skills but just seems to hover on the court with very little impact


I am pretty sure the differences are far more glaring in practice when there is no crowd to supply players energy.
All I'm saying is that it's a bit premature to write her off after one game...............she clearly has a laid-back personality and that works against her............still there aren't that many 6'5" players that have real offensive skills, and she does........
 
I think it depends on who they are playing.........I like that smaller athletic lineup, but I'm not sure it will work against South Carolina or other teams with big front courts........let's see what happens against Texas........
I thought it was strange that when she did get in...Amari played the wing. Hard for that kind of height to get out on perimeter shooters. And on offense, when she received the ball in the high post it appears she knows what to do, but the timing with the cutters is off just a bit. She shouldn't have to put the ball on the floor out there. And there were at least two passes she made where the finish wasn't completed.
 
All I'm saying is that it's a bit premature to write her off after one game...............she clearly has a laid-back personality and that works against her............still there aren't that many 6'5" players that have real offensive skills, and she does........
I'm not saying to write Amari off but it not based on one game as you have stated. It has been a full season and a summer that she dedicated to improvement. That game was an exhibition game against a Division II opponent with UCONN missing a post player in Ice Brady. It is all up to Amari to capitalize on her opportunity and get into the rotation.
 
I still have a shred of hope for Amari, but it's only a shred. Supposedly she spent the summer on campus working on her game. And this is what she has "improved" to? Against a D2 team, in an exhibition game, she was the last post player off the bench, and did nothing to show she deserves/wants playing time.

She had a golden opportunity before the start of the season, and then Ice got injured, so it became a platinum opportunity. The tiny bit of hope I have for her is almost gone. If she can't carve out meaningful time this season, then she will be the next Heather Buck - great teammate and cheerleader from the bench.
 
I thought it was strange that when she did get in...Amari played the wing. Hard for that kind of height to get out on perimeter shooters. And on offense, when she received the ball in the high post it appears she knows what to do, but the timing with the cutters is off just a bit. She shouldn't have to put the ball on the floor out there. And there were at least two passes she made where the finish wasn't completed.

:eek:Amari did not play the wing. UCONN played a lot of zone defense 1 X 2 X 2 and some 3 X 2. In those alignments when Amari is at base of the defense she has to get out and guard the corner jumpers. She actually did a nice job and recorded a block on the baseline. On offense she was mostly back to the basket on the right nail and she had one face up jumper. She definitely has to put the ball on the floor in those situations because the object is to get her slower defender switched onto the cutters. It is not like the offense is asking her to take the ball to the basket. The offense requires her to make two or three dribbles and if she can't do that then she is further behind than many of us are fearing.
 
:eek:Amari did not play the wing. UCONN played a lot of zone defense 1 X 2 X 2 and some 3 X 2. In those alignments when Amari is at base of the defense she has to get out and guard the corner jumpers. She actually did a nice job and recorded a block on the baseline. On offense she was mostly back to the basket on the right nail and she had one face up jumper. She definitely has to put the ball on the floor in those situations because the object is to get her slower defender switched onto the cutters. It is not like the offense is asking her to take the ball to the basket. The offense requires her to make two or three dribbles and if she can't do that then she is further behind than many of us are fearing.
Call it whatever you want...she had to defend perimeter players out at the 3 at her height. This is Kutztown. Better teams will just attack her on the closeout, and she will be out of position for rebounding. On offense in the low post, she did better with passing because she could see cutters. When at the foul line area that was problematic. If she's doubled...or its congested she tried dribbling, and the outcome wasn't good. I didn't think some of the cutters took the best angles to create a passing lane or the timing was off. Could have been spacing or something else, but it wasn't pretty.
 
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I'm not saying to write Amari off but it not based on one game as you have stated. It has been a full season and a summer that she dedicated to improvement. That game was an exhibition game against a Division II opponent with UCONN missing a post player in Ice Brady. It is all up to Amari to capitalize on her opportunity and get into the rotation.
Understood...........Geno recruited her for a reason so I'm going to assume that she has the ability to be a UConn player..........nobody is more disappointed in losing Brady than me.........I think she will be a 3-4 year starter and possible All American
 
Call it whatever you want...she had to defend perimeter players out at the 3 at her height. This is Kutztown. Better teams will just attack her on the closeout, and she will be out of position for rebounding. On offense in the low post, she did better with passing because she could see cutters. When at the foul line area that was problematic. If she's doubled...or its congested she tried dribbling, and the outcome wasn't good. I didn't think some of the cutters took the best angles to create a passing lane or the timing was off. Could have been spacing or something else, but it wasn't pretty.
I'm calling it what it was not what I want. Amari did not play wing. Post players are asked to contest deep shots all the time regardless of the defense the team is playing. You are making excuses for Amari's poor play & embellishing greatly. Amari is a 25% shooter-what team in their right mind is going to "double team" her? Post player dribbling from that position is SOP in the UCONN offense. The offense is not going to change because Amari can't do it consistently. Once again the requirement is two or three dribble- are you suggesting that is asking too much of Amari?
 
I'd like to see Amari get position down low and show what kind of post offense she has. I know she has reputation of being a good passer and also supposedly is a good shooter, but she didn't impress me today up high. Place her down low and let's see with her height what she's got.
 
I'm calling it what it was not what I want. Amari did not play wing. Post players are asked to contest deep shots all the time regardless of the defense the team is playing. You are making excuses for Amari's poor play & embellishing greatly. Amari is a 25% shooter-what team in their right mind is going to "double team" her? Post player dribbling from that position is SOP in the UCONN offense. The offense is not going to change because Amari can't do it consistently. Once again the requirement is two or three dribble- are you suggesting that is asking too much of Amari?
She's 25% because...she was shooting from the outside last year taking 3 pointers. In this particular game I'm not talking about double teams in the post, but at the foul line distributing area. She's not the only post player that wasn't decisive with the ball. Aaliyah stood out to me as making the best reads. She's also a threat to score from the foul area and Amari isn't (hence 25% shooting). Try someone else to distribute from that area and post Amari. Here's what I'm suggesting. Move her closer to the basket on both ends. She actually had a couple of good seals in the post and they didn't get her the ball. Why? I don't know.

And yes, POST payers have to contest perimeter shots, BUT, she's a true center. Patterson and Aaliyah are post players, but they are more mobile. I just don't envision Lauren Bettes, Cameron Brink, Elizabeth Kitley, Tamari Key, Ayoka Lee, etc. to play in a defensive scheme that asks them to close out on 3 point shooters as a staple of a defense. Of course, it may be required at times. I wouldn't say her play was poor and I definitely think she will be needed against bigger teams.
 
I was at the game and when Amari entered, I was very pleased. To make it very simple, I was extremely disappointed with her. I'm not going to go on and on about her performance since others have already stated the obvious. I now can see why Geno never mentioned her, but I was hoping that he was setting us all up for a huge surprise in whuch she would blow our socks off. I was really hoping that she could help us this year, but from what I saw yesterday, Jana cannot get here too soon.
 
With so little playtime yesterday is Geno challenging Amari? Just thinkin we were told Amari spent alot of time over the summer working on her game and she didnt see much time yesterday. Gotta wonder whats goin on with her. At 6'5 shes needed if she can get goin. I sure hope so.
 
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I was unable to watch yesterday.
My question is :
Is it impossible (whatever the talent level) to turn an in shape SIX FOOT FIVE INCH athlete into a feared defensive force?
Just the basics of stance, positioning, movement and attitude?
I’m reading the commentary but not understanding.
Must say, disappointed and concerned with what I’m reading.
 
I just don’t understand why she is not using the talent Geno knows that she has. I so badly want her to do well. For some reason she doesn’t appear to be motivated. I sincerely hope she finds her niche with the team. We are going to need her.
 
I saw what everyone else saw… and it wasn’t particularly encouraging. But I’m not giving up hope for our girl. I’ve worked with college kids for the last 4 decades and I always keep my hopes up for them. And sometimes I’m happy to be surprised by what they do, even if it comes a little later than I’d like.

The camera caught her facial expression at the beginning, maybe in an unguarded moment. She didn’t look as excited as the others. She seemed oppressed, even sad, like someone who didn’t feel ready for the big moment, or maybe like she knew she was about to be left on the bench in front of a big audience. I felt for her at that moment. I wonder if she finds the pressure overwhelming.

I hope she’s finding things to enjoy in her time at UConn.
 

I really hope she has a “breakout” season.

It appears she is still In Geno’s doghouse. Only played about 10 minutes towards the end of game. She needs to get that big body moving. As I recall Tina Charles didn’t blossom into an elite player until her junior year, then she became a monster. Amari has the skill set but does she have the desire?
 
To me clearly Amari is a disappointment for 4 glaring reasons. 1) How and when Geno uses her in the offense, 2) Her effectiveness in that offense, 3) Her effectiveness on defense, particularly the defensive glass, 4) Head down hustle down court.

Once again Geno brought her in for what is essentially garbage time. This time against a smallish D2 team. On offense Geno never used her on the block. In fact, whenever Geno brings her in the game, as last year, he limits the type of offense run. In an almost (almost) wheel type offense Geno would use his pistol offense to get Amari up top and place Ayanna on the block. This was to use Amari's passing and shooting skills. Amari though is the biggest person on the floor, and it seems Geno still doesn't trust her skills on the low block. Just as last year when he'd place Amari up top and Piath down low. It was my hope that Amari would finally learn how to use her girth and strength, at least against smaller opponents, but that doesn't seem to be the case. We still don't know if Amari has a decent drop step off either shoulder. Amari did make some nice passes, as last year from the elbow yesterday. Amari also missed her only shot attempt from just outside the elbow. She has yet to show if she can back an opponent down from the foul line and put the ball on the rim consistently. She has yet to show she can roll with authority to the hoop and finish. She has yet to show she can mount effective screens. She has yet to show how she deals with weak side help. She has yet to show if she can move the ball effectively out of the slot. She has yet to show how she handle a hard pocket pass. She has yet to show how she handles passes in the lane in transition.

On defense she again showed little ability to use her body effectively to box out and get rebounds, and she hasn't shown even a passing ability to read the ball off the rim. She has yet to show whether she can body an opponent up and deny them their spot. She has yet to show if she can use her body to move someone off their spot. She has yet to show if she can be an effective shot blocker. She has yet to show how she handles switches off her mark.

Four is self explanatory.

For someone with so many evident skills Amari has shown little evidence of using them. I was very hopeful that Amari would make a sophomore leap this year, and I still am. Amari needs to assert herself in all aspects on the floor. I have some long standing theories about and her doghouse residency that I won't say here. Nevertheless Amari is still real young, and it's a long season. Sooner rather than later her contributions will be necessary and hopefully she'll step to the table and really dig in.
 
To me clearly Amari is a disappointment for 4 glaring reasons. 1) How and when Geno uses her in the offense, 2) Her effectiveness in that offense, 3) Her effectiveness on defense, particularly the defensive glass, 4) Head down hustle down court.

Once again Geno brought her in for what is essentially garbage time. This time against a smallish D2 team. On offense Geno never used her on the block. In fact, whenever Geno brings her in the game, as last year, he limits the type of offense run. In an almost (almost) wheel type offense Geno would use his pistol offense to get Amari up top and place Ayanna on the block. This was to use Amari's passing and shooting skills. Amari though is the biggest person on the floor, and it seems Geno still doesn't trust her skills on the low block. Just as last year when he'd place Amari up top and Piath down low. It was my hope that Amari would finally learn how to use her girth and strength, at least against smaller opponents, but that doesn't seem to be the case. We still don't know if Amari has a decent drop step off either shoulder. Amari did make some nice passes, as last year from the elbow yesterday. Amari also missed her only shot attempt from just outside the elbow. She has yet to show if she can back an opponent down from the foul line and put the ball on the rim consistently. She has yet to show she can roll with authority to the hoop and finish. She has yet to show she can mount effective screens. She has yet to show how she deals with weak side help. She has yet to show if she can move the ball effectively out of the slot. She has yet to show how she handle a hard pocket pass. She has yet to show how she handles passes in the lane in transition.

On defense she again showed little ability to use her body effectively to box out and get rebounds, and she hasn't shown even a passing ability to read the ball off the rim. She has yet to show whether she can body an opponent up and deny them their spot. She has yet to show if she can use her body to move someone off their spot. She has yet to show if she can be an effective shot blocker. She has yet to show how she handles switches off her mark.

Four is self explanatory.

For someone with so many evident skills Amari has shown little evidence of using them. I was very hopeful that Amari would make a sophomore leap this year, and I still am. Amari needs to assert herself in all aspects on the floor. I have some long standing theories about and her doghouse residency that I won't say here. Nevertheless Amari is still real young, and it's a long season. Sooner rather than later her contributions will be necessary and hopefully she'll step to the table and really dig in.
All good points. A lot of people have overestimated her abilities. Some of the skills you list are ones that Brady and Patterson don't have yet either but they were/are developing them week by week. If DeBerry had made any progress on them over a season plus a summer, she'd be rotating with the other 3 bigs right now. Her lack of development in HS is water under the bridge, this is now and it's decision time for her on what her UConn career is going to be. I don't think Auriemma is going to wait around too long for her to make it.
 
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I was unable to watch yesterday.
My question is :
Is it impossible (whatever the talent level) to turn an in shape SIX FOOT FIVE INCH athlete into a feared defensive force?
Just the basics of stance, positioning, movement and attitude?
I’m reading the commentary but not understanding.
Must say, disappointed and concerned with what I’m reading.
A link to the replay is in the post tacked to the top of the board
 
As I stated when she first committed to UConn. Amari was going to be a project player. So far the project is failing for whatever reason. I have never been on the bandwagon about her being overly talented and skilled, but I was hoping that she would show improvement while at Storrs. She has time to rectify things, but I've not seen anything that leads me to believe she will be a major contributor moving forward this season.

As an example, (as stated in another thread), her "running" down the court reminds me of Steph Dolson as a freshman, slow and labored. We all know how Steph turned out, but Amari is now a Sophomore and she has shown nothing to lead one to believe that she will be anywhere near as successful as Steph.
 
I’ll admit I’m no talent scout, but when she committed I remember watching a highlight video and thinking she moved relatively slowly. To my eye, it appears that she might lack either the athleticism or killer mentality to play at the college level.

It appears she has good instincts passing the ball, and we hear she has a nice shooting touch. But without the physical tools, those skills can’t shine. I’m not sure what the solution is, but I hope she can figure it out. We’re going to be very thin in the front court next season.

I’m not surprised by what I saw yesterday. It’s normal to expect a sophomore jump, but from players who demonstrated flashes as a freshman. I can’t recall a player ever going from virtually zero playing time as a freshman to a major contributor. It’s perplexing and nobody knows how it will play out.
 
It appears she is still In Geno’s doghouse. Only played about 10 minutes towards the end of game. She needs to get that big body moving. As I recall Tina Charles didn’t blossom into an elite player until her junior year, then she became a monster. Amari has the skill set but does she have the desire?
Just because she didn’t play significant minutes does not mean she is in “Geno’s Dog House”. it just means she is number 10 or 11 on the depth chart. It’s up to her to improve and make the coach have to play her.
 
Remember fans Tina Charles was sleep-walking her first 2 years (if I remember correctly) and midway through her junior year she saw the light!
And had AA credentials when she graduated! And look at the career Tina has had!
Give Amari some time, the light WILL go on!
 
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It appears she is still In Geno’s doghouse. Only played about 10 minutes towards the end of game. She needs to get that big body moving. As I recall Tina Charles didn’t blossom into an elite player until her junior year, then she became a monster. Amari has the skill set but does she have the desire?
Huskie02- -Great minds think alike!
 
It appears she is still In Geno’s doghouse. Only played about 10 minutes towards the end of game. She needs to get that big body moving. As I recall Tina Charles didn’t blossom into an elite player until her junior year, then she became a monster. Amari has the skill set but does she have the desire?
I’m optimistic that Amari will pick things up eventually, but this is hardly a good comparison. Before being “elite”, Tina averaged almost a double-double in each of her first two seasons and was the Big East ROY.
 
Remember fans Tina Charles was sleep-walking her first 2 years (if I remember correctly) and midway through her junior year she saw the light!
And had AA credentials when she graduated! And look at the career Tina has had!
Give Amari some time, the light WILL go on!
I'm not sure you are remember correctly. Tina Charles was a day 1 starter and recorded 10 rebounds in her first UCONN game. In her second game she recorded 5 blocks, 17 Rebounds and 18 points. At the start of Tina's sophomore year she had two notable games to start the season agains #4 Stanford (13 Points, 11 Rebounds) and # 9 Duke. (13 Points, 8 Rebounds). If Tina was sleep-walking during her first two years then Amari must be -comatose?
 
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