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MJKI said:
The stated reason I have read is that there needs to be clear intent or knowledge that it would lead to a crime for him to be charge. Unless there is something explicitly showing Miles telling Miller about WHY he needs the gun, he can claim/feign innocence in this case.
Law is the same in Alabama as it is in New Hampshire, in case people are thinking it is just a south thing. We are not insulated from silly gun laws in New England...
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New Hampshire is the South of the North

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CL82 said:
Come on August you know that’s not true. One cooperated one did not the one that didn’t cooperate got a more severe sanction. The sanctions were not issued by the coach, or the athletic department. Your post is bull crap and you know it.
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Its not. You can tell yourself that because you are a UConn fan, and I get it, I am too, but let's be real here. It's OK to recognize hypocrisy. No one died.

Personally I think they both should've gone to jail just for the sheer stupidity of taking them to a pawn shop in Willimantic. That is worthy of an appearance on "worlds dumbest criminals"
 
Fishy said:
My thought is that…it’s a gun.

If the guy asked to be brought a pair of needle nosed pliers and somehow committed a crime with the pliers, sure, who knew? But he asked for a gun.

Intent would implied.

I don’t want to indict an entire state, but I am thinking that bringing a gun to a murder scene is a crime unless you’re an NBA lottery pick playing for the state U.
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There's not automatically intent for murder if you give a friend a gun.

People trade guns all the time but this certainly didn't sound like someone giving a gun to have in the apartment/house/car for every day protection, to go to the range with, just to have. We don't even know from the wording if this was Miles or Miller's gun.

Delivering your own gun or delivering the gun to the owner at 1:30 in the morning on the strip outside of the club sounds to me like they both knew something was going to go down. Difficult to prove though without texts/recording/witnesses.
 
August_West said:
Its not. You can tell yourself that because you are a UConn fan, and I get it, I am too, but let's be real here. It's OK to recognize hypocrisy. No one died.

Personally I think they both should've gone to jail just for the sheer stupidity of taking them to a pawn shop in Willimantic. That is worthy of an appearance on "worlds dumbest criminals"
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No, I can tell myself that because I remembered what happened and I’m guessing that you do as well. Are you saying the school administration colluded with the athletic department to provide a lighter sentence? That’s not accurate.

Likewise, they didn’t go to jail because they were first time offenders who availed themselves of a program that’s available to every first time offender.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Why isn’t this a bigger story? This seems really bad from any and all angles.
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The number one sports reporting outfit on planet earth currently does not even have the story on its front page.

Related note: that outfit is a business partner of Alabama and the SEC,

I have connected the dots for you, dear reader.
 
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Hopefully when Brandon Miller is suspended and Bama flounders to end the season, the Committee keeps in mind we pummeled them WITH Miller. Just sayin
 
Chin Diesel said:
For any amateur lawyers out there, this appears to be a legit Alabama government website. Page 17 of the pdf lists exceptions to transporting a pistol.


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That's pretty close to what the rules are in Mass and CT. You can certainly transport a handgun, but unless you are a LTC permit holder you can't carry it on your person (which is the section you circled). Look at the one above it. This is why people have trigger locks. But I haven't heard that he carried it on his person in the car, just transported it. As for handing it over, I posted the federal rules on that via the ATF. Handguns are regulated by the feds, not just the states. Even then you can lend them to people under some circumstances.

If the government has texts or emails or other evidence that he knew the purpose, then he should be charged. Aside from that, he's still a , because any reasonable person would suspect something was not right.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
That's pretty close to what the rules are in Mass and CT. You can certainly transport a handgun, but unless you are a LTC permit holder you can't carry it on your person (which is the section you circled). Look at the one above it. This is why people have trigger locks. But I haven't heard that he carried it on his person in the car, just transported it. As for handing it over, I posted the federal rules on that via the ATF. Handguns are regulated by the feds, not just the states. Even then you can lend them to people under some circumstances.

If the government has texts or emails or other evidence that he knew the purpose, then he should be charged. Aside from that, he's still a , because any reasonable person would suspect something was not right.
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And yet you make no mention of the joke about Alabama athletes being exempted.
 
Fishy said:
Lol.

Miller delivered a gun that was used to murder someone. I guess he just happened to have a loaded gun sitting around and was happy to deliver it to someone who used it to shoot a woman,

No gun, no murder.

He should be thrown out of school.
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But I love the the similar laptop equation
 
August_West said:
The excuse is that he had no way of knowing it would be used for that. Flimsy. But that's all they need to say.
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Yeah. He thought Miles was going to pawn it. Or maybe rent it out to somebody. No way he wanted to show any one,right?
 
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Fishy said:
I tried to read up on it and the answer appears to be “Alabama.”

I think they said that they do not have any kind of charge that would pertain to bringing a gun to a murder.

I mean…wow?
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Some states have passed ridiculously stupid gun laws and this is what you get. So you just bring someone a gun on a Saturday night no questions asked? It's absurd. He should be charged as an accessory and defend himself.
 
All the back and forth about whether bringing a gun to a murder scene in Alabama is a crime is for the lawyers to decide and decide they will. Mr. Miller’s basketball career is about to be put on hold to answer questions from police, lawyers and press at a minimum
 
Fishy said:
Lol.

Miller delivered a gun that was used to murder someone. I guess he just happened to have a loaded gun sitting around and was happy to deliver it to someone who used it to shoot a woman,

No gun, no murder.

He should be thrown out of school.
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I’m good with Miller seeing jail time as an accomplice if the facts do come out that way. But unless Oats knew all the details (which I’m not sure if he did) is it fair to fire him too?

Not giving him a pass for the “wrong place wrong time” comment, that’s absurd.
 
CTBasketball said:
I’m good with Miller seeing jail time as an accomplice if the facts do come out that way. But unless Oats knew all the details (which I’m not sure if he did) is it fair to fire him too?

Not giving him a pass for the “wrong place wrong time” comment, that’s absurd.
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It's almost as if Oats could have just kept his mouth shut and not affirmatively glossed over a situation he knows he doesn't know all the facts.
 
RichZ said:
Yeah. He thought Miles was going to pawn it. Or maybe rent it out to somebody. No way he wanted to show any one,right?
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The only way this gets to Miller is if they uncover more texts regarding the reason why Miles wanted the gun. Otherwise he just plays stupid. We all know better, but that will be the play.

The blocking of the car Friar posted(if true) is an interesting development that could go toward that though.
 
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CTBasketball said:
I’m good with Miller seeing jail time as an accomplice if the facts do come out that way. But unless Oats knew all the details (which I’m not sure if he did) is it fair to fire him too?

Not giving him a pass for the “wrong place wrong time” comment, that’s absurd.
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He recruited these kids, he brought them to campus. He has to go.
 
FriarJ said:
They retrieved dashcam footage from Millers car. So, he wasn't just parked there, he had his car running blocking the victim from fleeing.
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This sounds like an execution and for Oats to say the things he said knowing the details is shocking.

This is going to be a major story and I don't see Miller and Oats remaining at Alabama.
 
August_West said:
Its not. You can tell yourself that because you are a UConn fan, and I get it, I am too, but let's be real here. It's OK to recognize hypocrisy. No one died.

Personally I think they both should've gone to jail just for the sheer stupidity of taking them to a pawn shop in Willimantic. That is worthy of an appearance on "worlds dumbest criminals"
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I thought the pawn shop was in East Hartford. Doesn't make it any different but....
 
Chin Diesel said:
It's almost as if Oats could have just kept his mouth shut and not affirmatively glossed over a situation he knows he doesn't know all the facts.
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Im inclined to give him a temporary pass on that asinine statement. His whole promising career is crumbling in the blink of an eye. I'm sure he is out of his mind right now. Let's see what happens from here though. It's about to get real hot.
 
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