ADB on Hurley Hiring

[whaler11]

If I were you (I'm serious about this) I would stop supporting UCONN sports. Stop being a fan (or whatever it is you call what you do, doesn't really seem like a fan)

So you think because I believe leadership should be held accountable and the government should be transparent I shouldn’t be a fan.

You are arguing that to be a fan one should be actively ignorant?

Sorry not everyone has a room temp IQ. Feel free to apply your stupid rules elsewhere.

 

[whaler11]

So whale is a tool in both the Cesspool and men's board. Thought it might just be his shtick when talking politics. Guess it's just his every day personality...sad.

Oh good another mouth breather who wants to celebrate their ignorance.

It’s a country moran jamboroo.

 

[polycom]

The position that someone here is arguing that tax paying citizens of the state shouldn't know at a very specific level how UConn funded Hurley + potentially paying a buyout is silly but not shocking.

 

[whaler11]

The position that someone here is arguing that tax paying citizens of the state shouldn't know at a very specific level how UConn funded Hurley + potentially paying a buyout is silly but not shocking.

Polycom: #notafan

 

[Guapo]

I fail to see how wanting basic transparency from the AD or the government is political in anyway...

Thankfully there's a very simple solution here:

Just tell us.

 

[Rocktheworld]

So you think because I believe leadership should be held accountable and the government should be transparent I shouldn’t be a fan.

You are arguing that to be a fan one should be actively ignorant?

Sorry not everyone has a room temp IQ. Feel free to apply your stupid rules elsewhere.

Lol @calluke liked that post

Of all people you’d think he would be on your side for fiscal transparency

But it’s just shut up and eat the Susie sandwich

 

[polycom]

Polycom: #notafan

The Yard is always an interesting place.

 

[metsfan2323]

So you think because I believe leadership should be held accountable and the government should be transparent I shouldn’t be a fan.

You are arguing that to be a fan one should be actively ignorant?

Sorry not everyone has a room temp IQ. Feel free to apply your stupid rules elsewhere.

Personally I hope they save the money by cutting soccer, but whatever, i'm sure we'll find out eventually, nothing to get all worked up about.

 

[calluke]

Of all people you’d think he would be on your side for fiscal transparency

I am on the side of fiscal transparency. But whale has a knack for acting like a tool when stating his case.

 

[Fishy]

They're not "paying" any part of his "salary". They're just going to donate to a general athletic fund with a wink and a nod.

Donors are not involved.

 

[metsfan2323]

Donors are not involved.

are donations going to the buyout if there is a buyout?

 

[whaler11]

Donors are not involved.

Great news. No reason not to open the books and take a victory lap.

 

[WrenchFan69]

Personally I hope they save the money by cutting soccer, but whatever, i'm sure we'll find out eventually, nothing to get all worked up about.

They're building an 8-digit soccer/olympic sports complex; I don't think it's getting cut. Also we're one of the top programs in the country. There's other ways to trim some fat if necessary.

 

[Dizzy21]

Great news. No reason not to open the books and take a victory lap.

The books are open. If you are doing a technical accounting of the men's basketball team in particular, they can afford the salaries, in fact, with the salaries they still take in more in revenue that they expend, so no donors needed to fund these transactions. If you are looking at an accounting for the department as a whole, the funding of all salaries is done with athletic department revenue, no donors, no state, no student fees.

 

[whaler11]

The books are open. If you are doing a technical accounting of the men's basketball team in particular, they can afford the salaries, in fact, with the salaries they still take in more in revenue that they expend, so no donors needed to fund these transactions. If you are looking at an accounting for the department as a whole, the funding of all salaries is done with athletic department revenue, no donors, no state, no student fees.

Wow the revenue covers the salaries! How about the other 50 million in expenses?

Does state and student revenue cover the stuff that generates the revenue? Like the scholarships for the players that actually sell the tickets?

If you’ve got the books post them. It can only make them look good if the numbers work.

 

[Dizzy21]

Wow the revenue covers the salaries! How about the other 50 million in expenses?

Does state and student revenue cover the stuff that generates the revenue? Like the scholarships for the players that actually sell the tickets?

If you’ve got the books post them. It can only make them look good if the numbers work.

Auxiliary revenues and student fees cover most of the other budget that is referred to as "subsidy", which are things like bookstore revenue etc. Looking at the budget, the state literally provides zero dollars directly to the athletic department from a technical accounting perspective.

Granted one could argue that is just accounting and they are diverting the money from other things to go to the athletic department and that University money in general is state money, but on an accounting basis, no tax dollars technically go to the AD budget at all, it is all University Revenue one way or the other.

And as I said before, you were claiming this is some secret stuff, it is not and you seem like a smart dude so google it, it's all on the internet.

 

[whaler11]

Auxiliary revenues and student fees cover most of the other budget that is referred to as "subsidy", which are things like bookstore revenue etc. Looking at the budget, the state literally provides zero dollars directly to the athletic department from a technical accounting perspective.

Granted one could argue that is just accounting and they are diverting the money from other things to go to the athletic department and that University money in general is state money, but on an accounting basis, no tax dollars technically go to the AD budget at all, it is all University Revenue one way or the other.

And as I said before, you were claiming this is some secret stuff, it is not and you seem like a smart dude so google it, it's all on the internet.

LOL

So you know what you posted was complete nonsense but challenged me to google what anyone with a clue already knows.

Clearly you know the student government destroyed the adminstration on the pathetic accounting tricks they deploy.

Thanks for making my point. When they pay another guy 3 million annually with a giant buy-out looming for the last guy we deserve to see the books. Only morans still buy it’s funded with non-taxpayer dollars. A bunch of 19 and 20 year olds burned that stupidity to the ground for fun in student government.

The STUDENT GOVERNMENT gets it. But the esteemed grads of such a high ranking institution just can’t figure it out.

 

[whaler11]

This is pure comedy

https://senate.uconn.edu/wp-content...Senate-UBC-Report-on-AD-Subsidy-to-Senate.pdf

The most important thing to note is these relative children get it.

This one page has it all. In a handful of bullets disproves 90% of what posters have claimed over 2 days.

Thank you UConn Senate.

 

[Dizzy21]

View attachment 30090 This is pure comedy

https://senate.uconn.edu/wp-content...Senate-UBC-Report-on-AD-Subsidy-to-Senate.pdf

The most important thing to note is these relative children get it.

This one page has it all. In a handful of bullets disproves 90% of what posters have claimed over 2 days.

Thank you UConn Senate.

So to follow up on what I said about the budget, the student senate confirms exactly what I said. They also prove that with a little more googling you can find out the exact budget yourself, they did.

Whether you agree or not with the accounting, obviously the students do not, but an actual accountant who audits the books and approves this does, that is a different story. Fact remains that the budget is available to find, me and the students found it and the University pays for things exactly how I said they did, thanks for confirming what I said.

I am glad that one page did say it all, that all you had to do was google a little and stop complaining that someone was hiding the information.

 

[Towney007]

It's still stunning to me that people thought Ollie's buy out and then affording a really good coach wasn't going to happen. Whether anyone wants it to stay that way or not - the basketball program is an integral piece to the University an the state's identity. To let it just wither and die because of a buy out - and leave all that potential revenue on the table - is far more irresponsible.

It's been an incredibly well funded state university and national brand for some time. If the money isn't in the athletic budget - it's somewhere. And I told you that they'd find it. Which they did. Ollie's contract was peanuts in the big picture.

 

[metsfan2323]

They're building an 8-digit soccer/olympic sports complex; I don't think it's getting cut. Also we're one of the top programs in the country. There's other ways to trim some fat if necessary.

Does soccer turn a profit?

Whaler the grouch lost all of his money gambling so now everything in the state that doesn't turn a profit needs to be cut. The university itself will be closing soon in favor of online learning. All state kids will now be learning from Youtube, all questions will be answered via Wikipedia, and all degrees will be hand delivered by the Wizard of Oz.

Really, 8 digits for a soccer stadium? Private funding I assume?

 

[whaler11]

Does soccer turn a profit?

Whaler the grouch lost all of his money gambling so now everything in the state that doesn't turn a profit needs to be cut. The university itself will be closing soon in favor of online learning. All state kids will now be learning from Youtube, all questions will be answered via Wikipedia, and all degrees will be hand delivered by the Wizard of Oz.

Really, 8 digits for a soccer stadium? Private funding I assume?

You are the stupidest person here. Quite an honor.

Asking how things are funded is not demanding to eliminate things that aren’t profitable.

When I say we have the athletic department WE deserve I’m specifically talking about morans like you who don’t even believe the citizens deserve a transparent government.

 

[CTMike]

You know Whaler has the Yard on tilt when wanting greater transparency in our AD becomes a controversial topic.

 

[whaler11]

You know Whaler has the Yard on tilt when wanting greater transparency in our AD becomes a controversial topic.

The best part is you know the metsfan actually believes the Mets are poor and can’t afford to bring in players.

 

[Deadrody]

It’s more evidence they can’t be trusted with money.

Shouldn’t even be an option that the government can hide their sources of revenue from taxpayers.

Shouldn’t we be aware of potential conflicts of interest? Quid pro quos?

Who would accept this from the department of transportation or law enforcement?

No one.

What nonsense. It's the athletic department. It's not the DOT. Beyond which, that's PRIVATE, donated money. That is not "government revenue". It's private donations that offset the need for public tax money. And, there are two sides to that, and the donor side deserves at least some modicum of privacy. And what kind of quid pro quo do you think would be so terrible that it needs to be divulged because it could somehow be a "conflict of interest".

You're off the deep end on this. It isn't rocket science.

 

[Deadrody]

Allowing the athletic department to accept what is essentially dark money is ridiculous.

It opens the entire university up to be manipulated by anonymous donors.

If a donor bails SuzieLax and DB out of a mess - what do they get in return?

If anyone is stupid enough to think they don’t collect...

As for CCSU in my opinion they should sponsor men’s and women’s basketball and plow the rest of the dollars they waste into student wellness and recreation.

But moran metsfan doesnt get my issue isn’t with what Hurley makes - it’s that we don’t see the math.

Right... that's the ticket. These guys don't want prime access to the team, coaches, etc., and the best seats, apparently, they ALSO want to blackmail the president and AD. You're flat out nuts.

 

[Deadrody]

Are you arguing that we don't have a right to know where the money is coming from?

Yes. Private donations to the UCADF are not public funds and the donor information is private. Period. Again, it is not "public funding" or "government revenue". It's private money that offsets the need for public funds. The state of CT ought to be GRATEFUL for every single dollar that is donated that the state taxpayers don't have to provide to UConn.

 

[CTMike]

Ok... and when the AD spends more than what has been donated... where does that come from?

 

[CL82]

Boosters are not paying any part of his salary.

It was a rumor that turned out not to be accurate.

Are they backstopping the Ollie buyout? That made more sense to me. It isn't atypical to have booster help pay to get a struggling coach out.

 

[whaler11]

Yes. Private donations to the UCADF are not public funds and the donor information is private. Period. Again, it is not "public funding" or "government revenue". It's private money that offsets the need for public funds. The state of CT ought to be GRATEFUL for every single dollar that is donated that the state taxpayers don't have to provide to UConn.

Let us show our appreciation to them with transparency. Let’s be able to know our state employees are working in good faith.

We know they are awesome rockstars - what’s the danger in letting some sunlight in?

Shouldn’t be anything to be angry about - if they are doing such a great job they should show the world!

Why do you hate accountability so much?