ACC wants UConn if ND comes too

[gars44]

Wow, are you 12?

You didn't respond to any of my points.

If they lose a team to the SEC, which "Big XII" team will they select and why? I told you why Kansas and Missouri are highly unlikely additions. Is the ACC going to take Baylor?

Cut the guy some slack. He made a mistake on the big 12 thing, but his other points are very good.

 

[gars44]

I never said Missouri rejects the SEC, obviously they would go to the SEC over the ACC if money is the determing factor. For argument sake let's say once Texas A&M is a sure thing the SEC gets Clemson to commit. Now the ACC has 13 teams so they want to add a team to get to 14. Who do they invite?

The best school they can get, right? Is UConn that school? They could probably have their pick of Big East schools given the current panic mode. But, there are better options available in the Big 12, in my opinion.

Texas. Only Texas. That's your salvation.

 

[tzznandrew]

Cut the guy some slack. He made a mistake on the big 12 thing, but his other points are very good.

"Keep dreaming" was his response. He's since been more cogent, but if you don't think that's annoyingly dismissive, given that I had responded to most of his points fairly, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[toppencil]

I'd say that some of the B12 schools are theoretically better options (i.e. have better football programs and markets--Texas, OU, Mizzou), but they either aren't likely to go due to money (Texas/OU) or geographic (Texas/OU/Mizzou) reasons.

The word is that Mizzou has an offer right now from the B12. That's what I'm basing my comments on. If they have rejected the SEC, they aren't going to the ACC. I they aren't going, none of the others are (barring B12's collapse--which is still possible). Once none of the B12 schools aren't going to the ACC, you don't really have a better option Athletically, Geographically, or Academically than UConn.

Also, thank you for responding to the points more clearly.

Don't get me wrong, UConn in the ACC would be great for UConn but not for the rest of the conference. Leaving doesn't sit well with my ideas of loyalty and trust. A strong conference can be built from the remaining Big East schools with the right leadership. I hope the conference gets its act together and finds a way to survive. If anyone else leaves, say West Virginia (IMO the best football program left in the league), the Big East will probably go back to its roots as a basketball conference.

The remaining Big East football schools will have to cobble together a conference - The Island of Misfit Toys. What if UConn ends up in that group? Will this new conference be part of the BCS? What kind of TV money will it get? To me it seems better to band together and try to move forward as a group rather than hope you win the lottery.

The Big East should be giving the finger to the ACC not all begging to be part of it. But that's just one man's opinion.

 

[gars44]

"Keep dreaming" was his response. He's since been more cogent, but if you don't think that's annoyingly dismissive, given that I had responded to most of his points fairly, I don't know what to tell you.

I hear you. We are all sensitive. I thought he was being animated, not trying to insult you.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Joe Schad was on ESPN Radio this morning. Said there was no interest among ACC schools in going to 16. Neinas was also on, and said that 10 was the probable number of schools, but there was not a rush. The SEC has already rejected every Big East school that inquired, and the Big 10 is holding tight.

No one is coming to rescue us. Time to move on.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Waylon, did you see Neinas on Gameday this morning? he was spinning his backside off but the reality (when all of the spin was removed from his comments) is that the B-12 isn't even close to being in agreement on how to remain together as a conference. It may take weeks before anything new is announced but the B-12 drama is far from being over.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Waylon, did you see Neinas on Gameday this morning? he was spinning his backside off but the reality (when all of the spin was removed from his comments) is that the B-12 isn't even close to being in agreement on how to remain together as a conference. It may take weeks before anything new is announced but the B-12 drama is far from being over.

So what? The Big 12 schools have no where else to go. The Pac 12 voted down Texahoma and it wasn't close. And even if Texas runs away, there is no way the Big 12 will ever help UConn.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I'm not claining that the B-12 will (or even can) help UConn. You however are convincved that there is such solidarity there that no pieces will fall to reach the point where the ACC would be in position to consider another member or two. This is not yet the case (regardless of what Schad said).

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I'm not claining that the B-12 will (or even can) help UConn. You however are convincved that there is such solidarity there that no pieces will fall to reach the point where the ACC would be in position to consider another member or two. This is not yet the case (regardless of what Schad said).

The Big 10 and Pac 12 are not expanding. The SEC may add 1 more. Is there some bizarre corner case where the ACC adds UConn and Rutgers? Theoretically. Is it time to move on and rebuild the Big East? Absolutely.

 

[uconnfan68]

I'm not knocking you here, but I just don't understand this one. When the Big East dies, and the Catholic leagues reform into a smaller conference, what's to stop ND from parking its teams with the Catholics and staying independent in football?

ND has said publicly that they would prefer to be with the FOOTBALL schools for the OTHER sports, not the BB schools. They want their cake and they want to be able to eat it at their leisure. They are using both the BB-onlies and the FB schools. If there is a split, you won't see they lined up with Seton Hall, PC, DePaul, etc. for the Olympic sports.