ACC votes to add Stanford, Cal, SMU: Conference presidents approve expansion to 18 schools

[Fishy]

What paid for Dan Hurley and Geno? Magic?

The students.

Remember them? They’re paying Geno and Danny. They pay $450-500 a head directly to athletics and then around $35M that ideally would be spent on them is diverted to athletics to keep that machine alive.

That’s how all of this is working.

 

[Fishy]

Pitino is earning hos BE stripes already

Rick Pitino makes fun of ACC for adding Stanford, Cal to conference

Everyone is making fun of the ACC, including St. John’s men’s basketball head coach Rick Pitino.

nypost.com

Stop it.

Man shiv’d the Big East back in the day, so this is nonsense.

 

[CL82]

Stop it.

Man shiv’d the Big East back in the day, so this is nonsense.

How did he shiv in the Big East?

 

[Fishy]

How did he shiv in the Big East?

Seriously?

 

[CL82]

Seriously?

Seriously. I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[upstater]

You are showing yourself to be clueless as usual. BC, Wake and UNC are all well above average institutions. Your point would have been better served focusing on Louisville, FSU and Pitt.

Pitt is better than BC and Wake, but not UNC.

 

[upstater]

By cutting I mean a move to FCS.

You mean for football?

 

[USNavyDog]

Why is an East coast conference like ACC adding two west coast teams from California and one team from Texas. Its ridiculous to have team way outside their geographical region travel that kind of distance to play the likes of Duke, UNC, Syracuse, etc. Why not just rename the ACC since its no longer an east coast-centric conference anymore?

 

[upstater]

Between college football money and NCAA tournament credits they will be making more in the ACC then they were in the AAC.

This is what people don't seem to realize about the huge gulf between the P4 and the others.

The P4 have access to huge bundles of cash that aren't even related to their media deals.

 

[Fishy]

This is what people don't seem to realize about the huge gulf between the P4 and the others.

The P4 have access to huge bundles of cash that aren't even related to their media deals.

Bingo.

There are millions of dollars to be had with just the inclusion in a power conference.

SMU will be way ahead.

 

[upstater]

The students.

Remember them? They’re paying Geno and Danny. They pay $450-500 a head directly to athletics and then around $35M that ideally would be spent on them is diverted to athletics to keep that machine alive.

That’s how all of this is working.

I'm not sure people are looking around enough to see what's going on. I see an unwillingness to look at reality, because the alternative is too bleak.

We have a P4 school in West Virginia firing 20% of the university.

We've got a new president at UConn openly threatening the legislature in the media.

We have U. Cal--a well-heeled school that spent way too much on athletic facilities with a massive hole in its athletics funding--back when it was in the Pac12, never mind now.

These are not normal things.

 

[kobebeanbryant]

Gentlemen, it has been a privelage sh!tposting with you this past decade…

 

[UConnJim]

The attitudes of some people on this board are hard to take. Is what happened to UConn in realignment a positive? Of course not, but you learn to move forward. People talk about revenue shortfalls, but did anyone notice there were 35k tickets distributed for the football game on Thursday? Of course there were freebies,... But, I think UConn did <$2 million in football ticket sales last year. What if you had 30k paying customers (not including students) to football games at an average of $30/ticket. That's $900k per game times 6 equals $5.4 million per year. Fill the Rent, and revenues will increase.

There are many options to raise revenues going forward. Increase attendance at all sports, hockey, soccer, football, basketball; make donations a focus and dramatically increase athletic giving; Increase reach out to potential corporate sponsors; figure out a way to monetize UConn+. Put it on cable systems in Connecticut and charge for it, maybe $0.25 to $0.50 per month; Figure out a way to monetize the naming of Gampel;....

Some will accuse me of being a pollyanna, but in my business career, I have never seen a company succeed when they thought the obstacles were too steep and they decided they couldn't compete. And, don't say there is nothing you can do. Buy a ticket to a game, rally your friends and family to attend a game, buy a UConn T-shirt, watch games on TV to improve ratings, donate $25 to the athletic department,...

 

[CL82]

We've got a new president at UConn openly threatening the legislature in the media.
These are not normal things.

For this one, at least, I think we can chalk it up to President Maric's unfamiliarity with legislative funding, negotiation, and in particular, public negotiation. She made a valid point in a tone deaf manner and an in opportune moment.

 

[Scoe]

The attitudes of some people on this board are hard to take. Is what happened to UConn in realignment a positive? Of course not, but you learn to move forward. People talk about revenue shortfalls, but did anyone notice there were 35k tickets distributed for the football game on Thursday? Of course there were freebies,... But, I think UConn did <$2 million in football ticket sales last year. What if you had 30k paying customers (not including students) to football games at an average of $30/ticket. That's $900k per game times 6 equals $5.4 million per year. Fill the Rent, and revenues will increase.

There are many options to raise revenues going forward. Increase attendance at all sports, hockey, soccer, football, basketball; make donations a focus and dramatically increase athletic giving; Increase reach out to potential corporate sponsors; figure out a way to monetize UConn+. Put it on cable systems in Connecticut and charge for it, maybe $0.25 to $0.50 per month; Figure out a way to monetize the naming of Gampel;....

Yep this has to be the plan moving forward. The doom and gloomers who offer no solution are part of the problem themselves.

 

[upstater]

For this one, at least, I think we can chalk it up to President Maric's unfamiliarity with legislative funding, negotiation, and in particular, public negotiation. She made a valid point in a tone deaf manner and an in opportune moment.

It is very difficult to believe given the risk-averse mentality of 99.9% of the people in that position. They get there by NEVER EVER stirring the pot. It's practically in their DNA.

 

[navery12]

The attitudes of some people on this board are hard to take. Is what happened to UConn in realignment a positive? Of course not, but you learn to move forward. People talk about revenue shortfalls, but did anyone notice there were 35k tickets distributed for the football game on Thursday? Of course there were freebies,... But, I think UConn did <$2 million in football ticket sales last year. What if you had 30k paying customers (not including students) to football games at an average of $30/ticket. That's $900k per game times 6 equals $5.4 million per year. Fill the Rent, and revenues will increase.

There are many options to raise revenues going forward. Increase attendance at all sports, hockey, soccer, football, basketball; make donations a focus and dramatically increase athletic giving; Increase reach out to potential corporate sponsors; figure out a way to monetize UConn+. Put it on cable systems in Connecticut and charge for it, maybe $0.25 to $0.50 per month; Figure out a way to monetize the naming of Gampel;....

You throw out a lot of ideas, but the reality is that all of them are just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. It doesn't mean we shouldn't try to or won't increase attendance at football games. But an extra $3M from football attendance isn't changing anything significantly for the athletic department.

The only idea I completely disagree with is your UConn+ idea. Charging for UConn+ and putting it on cable is a surefire way to make sure that you lose 95% of your customer base. It goes against the entire purpose of it being created

 

[huskyinfl]

ESPN has been of no help - we need to lean into the $$$ and use our hedge fund guys - Cohen and Dalio really can't help us?

 

[AllHusky]

UConn's athletic director has a lot of explaining to do. This makes no sense on any level. The fact that UConn can't even get an invite to join the ACC makes no sense. They are a fit in many ways. If this truly is a political decision because on a grudge that some school has over UConn, then this should be made transparent once and for all. This isn't fair and in an era of NIL and big money for athletics, this puts UConn at a big disadvantage.

We saw last night firsthand what the big discrepancy in talent level means for the football program. Moves like this will eventually extend to our basketball program and other sports if things aren't changed right now.

How do you change it?? Yes it is inexplicable, and it happened again.

 

[AllHusky]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but can you explain how the 93%+/- of the student body that doesn't play a sport is harmed academically by the conference affiliation for non-academic competition?

CORRECT
Not one bit!! Go to campus-gorgeous place, go to class,--great education, graduate-great future. The college sports environment is a long way from being defined, is it ugly and messy-yes, has it been good to us-no, should we continue to strive yes, should we give up-no.

 

[HooperScooper]

You are showing yourself to be clueless as usual. BC, Wake and UNC are all well above average institutions. Your point would have been better served focusing on Louisville, FSU and Pitt.

Isn't Pitt a very good school? Not elite but way above average.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Who would you like me to talk to? Noble? Benedict? D'Amelio?

How is this very, very bad for men's basketball? UConn is going to make cuts to men's basketball? UConn is going to get left out of the men's tournament? The entire Big East is going to get left out of the men's tournament?

Everything except men's basketball is about to have its budget gutted. And as an alum, even as a state resident, this feels like Brutus' knife just landed.

Et tu?

Even men's basketball will need cuts.

 

[BigTenFan]

UConn basketball programs will be just fine
Olympic sports will suffer because of lack of funding. Not sure where the money will come from

 

[AllHusky]

After last night they feared UConn's rise to prominence may one day eclipse them if we were in the ACC, so to preserve their status as one of the top six football schools they decided to water the league down and keep UConn out...........

Don't count this theory out. Call it the BC effect, BC knew it was over for them athletically as we rose to prominence in the 90's, so they beat feet and blocked us. Not exactly the same, but similar for NC St(we coulda shoulda woulda beat them)

 

[AllHusky]

I had someone tell me recently that UConn will be invited to join the BIG 12 next year. This person talks to people within UConn. I won’t say exactly who but it sounded legit.

not unimaginable, hopefully true