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CL82 said:
Agree, except the whole UConn hasn't been spending on football, they aren't sure whether or not football matters to them, etc narratives. I don't think that narrative will fully go away, but it could be redirected, as we saw here, that Connecticut is now paying attention to football with the hiring of Mora.
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Only way to change that perception is by winning against good P5 teams. There isn't another way to change this.
 
I don’t see the ACC getting poached for the next ten years. FSU is making themselves less attractive to both the B1G & SEC. I highly doubt Florida, UGA, South Carolina and the lower tier teams will want either FSU or Clemson. They don’t need another automatic loss and a redundancy of markets.

The B1G studied 10 schools, two of which were Oregon & Washington. The five ACC teams were UNC, Duke, UVA, GT & Miami. All are AAU schools. The other 3 were Cal, Stanford & Utah.

If the B1G and SEC decide in the future, 2036, to grow to 24 teams the remaining ACC teams will all join the B12. A lot depends on the money offered by the networks in 2031.
 
UConn should have did this back in April. Perhaps they'd be in.

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B12 and ACC on the clock!

Thanks, that made that easy. For what it’s worth immediately after mentioning that the big 12 got calls from Connecticut and Memphis after it said that it was “open for business” he then goes on to comment “I’m not sure that’s gonna happen.” So, yeah, I mention, but almost immediately afterwards...
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The replies back then shot this down. Sometimes you have to be willing to be the 1st.
 
Khal Drogo said:
Carolina schools always wanted UConn. FSU and Clemson did not. BC and Syracuse would probably keep us out along with the football schools.
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FSU and Clemson are looking for any way out. BC and Syracuse should be wise enough to see the writing on the wall and know that they need anything they can get to try and save any value to the ACC. We add value, period. This isn't the 2010's where they can hold grudges and get away with it.
 
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UCFBfan said:
FSU and Clemson are looking for any way out. BC and Syracuse should be wise enough to see the writing on the wall and know that they need anything they can get to try and save any value to the ACC. We add value, period. This isn't the 2010's where they can hold grudges and get away with it.
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FSU and Clemson have made it exceptionally clear that if they could find a way out they would be out. They are still in the ACC, entirely because they are unwilling to pay the massive cost (a bit north of $100 million exit fee, anyone's guess at the GOR buyout but that would likely start at half a billion dollars) to leave the ACC.

There is quite a bit of time before Cuse and BC need to worry about saving value in the conference once Clemson and FSU leave.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
FSU and Clemson have made it exceptionally clear that if they could find a way out they would be out. They are still in the ACC, entirely because they are unwilling to pay the massive cost (a bit north of $100 million exit fee, anyone's guess at the GOR buyout but that would likely start at half a billion dollars) to leave the ACC.

There is quite a bit of time before Cuse and BC need to worry about saving value in the conference once Clemson and FSU leave.
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They will likely land in the Big 12 anyways and knock UConn out again
 
hank970 said:
I can't imagine that Nebraska would willingly accept such a cut in revenue.
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They wouldn't.

Additionally, if Rhule get's the job done there, the narrative that they don't belong will disappear.
 
Aug 31st is one of those rare moments where we get to showcase our upgraded football program— to the Big12 gurus who badmouthed our football, to the ACC who are trying to figure out the future, to the media who perennially love to doubt us—-and to our own skeptical fanbase.
Take the field with confidence and take the fight to NCState on the 31st and there’ll be lots more folks talking about the Husky renaissance. It’s all right there before us. Lots of ACC and Big12 eyeballs will be watching.

Which of these two headlines will we be reading after the game?

“UConn does little to dispel the reluctance of the Big12 to invite them to the party and confirms the ACC’s long held perception as they get dismantled by NCSt 42-6”
OR
”UConn shows the doubters why they were high on Bret Yormark’s Big12 wishlist and should be on the ACC’s, by upending NC St with a relentless attack for all 4 quarters, in a surprising 36-21 victory.“

This is our chance. Be there and make a difference.
 
Nostical said:
Aug 31st is one of those rare moments where we get to showcase our upgraded football program— to the Big12 gurus who badmouthed our football, to the ACC who are trying to figure out the future, to the media who perennially love to doubt us—-and to our own skeptical fanbase.
Take the field with confidence and take the fight to NCState on the 31st and there’ll be lots more folks talking about the Husky renaissance. It’s all right there before us. Lots of ACC and Big12 eyeballs will be watching.

Which of these two headlines will we be reading after the game?

“UConn does little to dispel the reluctance of the Big12 to invite them to the party and confirms the ACC’s long held perception as they get dismantled by NCSt 42-6”
OR
”UConn shows the doubters why they were high on Bret Yormark’s Big12 wishlist and should be on the ACC’s, by upending NC St with a relentless attack for all 4 quarters, in a surprising 36-21 victory.“

This is our chance. Be there and make a difference.
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UConn wins by two touchdowns! Let's go Huskies!!
 
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Nostical said:
Aug 31st is one of those rare moments where we get to showcase our upgraded football program— to the Big12 gurus who badmouthed our football, to the ACC who are trying to figure out the future, to the media who perennially love to doubt us—-and to our own skeptical fanbase.
Take the field with confidence and take the fight to NCState on the 31st and there’ll be lots more folks talking about the Husky renaissance. It’s all right there before us. Lots of ACC and Big12 eyeballs will be watching.

Which of these two headlines will we be reading after the game?

“UConn does little to dispel the reluctance of the Big12 to invite them to the party and confirms the ACC’s long held perception as they get dismantled by NCSt 42-6”
OR
”UConn shows the doubters why they were high on Bret Yormark’s Big12 wishlist and should be on the ACC’s, by upending NC St with a relentless attack for all 4 quarters, in a surprising 36-21 victory.“

This is our chance. Be there and make a difference.
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Hell ya!!!!!
 
Nostical said:
Aug 31st is one of those rare moments where we get to showcase our upgraded football program— to the Big12 gurus who badmouthed our football, to the ACC who are trying to figure out the future, to the media who perennially love to doubt us—-and to our own skeptical fanbase.
Take the field with confidence and take the fight to NCState on the 31st and there’ll be lots more folks talking about the Husky renaissance. It’s all right there before us. Lots of ACC and Big12 eyeballs will be watching.

Which of these two headlines will we be reading after the game?

“UConn does little to dispel the reluctance of the Big12 to invite them to the party and confirms the ACC’s long held perception as they get dismantled by NCSt 42-6”
OR
”UConn shows the doubters why they were high on Bret Yormark’s Big12 wishlist and should be on the ACC’s, by upending NC St with a relentless attack for all 4 quarters, in a surprising 36-21 victory.“

This is our chance. Be there and make a difference.
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The extra large effort they have been making about attendance lends some creditability to the notion that this game means a lot more than usual.
 
ScottVib said:
One thing to remember is it’s not FSU - Tennessee vs. FSU - Wake in a vacuum…

It’s does FSU - Tennesse become more valuable enough than the Arkansas - Tennessee game that would’ve been in that slot compared to the drop in value from the FSU - Wake vs. Cuse - Wake game they now have for that slot.

FSU makes “worthless” ACC content airable. While they boost the SEC content is it by enough to overcome the cost. Similarly what’s more valuable to ESPNs massive outlay for the playoff? FSU as the 10-2 ACC champions seeded 4th or as a 8-4 at large 8th seed slated for a second round rematch with #1 Alabama (if they win). Especially if that alternative involves a 9-3 Pitt reaching the tournament now as ACC champ blocking an at large bid to Tennessee. (So FSU & Tennessee vs. Pitt & FSU in the playoff)

FSU arguably has much more value to ESPN as the big dawg in the ACC then as a member (say upper class) in the SEC (even before you factor the pro rata costs involved in each deal). I just don’t see a lot of reason for ESPN to bend over backwards to move FSU or anyone else from the ACC before 2036 (I guess the only argument would be a world where they’re lost to the Big Ten and FOX if they don’t match the deal).
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In these new mega conferences there will be a lot of 500 to sub-500 teams. I’m not sure parity makes alumni happy.
 
NC State was predicted in the preseason ACC poll to finish 4th in conference.

Vegas odds have UConn +15.

An upset would set up the Huskies for a good season...

BC is predicted to come in as next to last in ACC and Cuse as #10.
 
billybud said:
NC State was predicted in the preseason ACC poll to finish 4th in conference.

Vegas odds have UConn +15.

An upset would set up the Huskies for a good season...

BC is predicted to come in as next to last in ACC and Cuse as #10.
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What were the Fresno State odds last year? +14?
 
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We hear the same story all the time: Why is it always UConn has to win this game to get to a power conference! ( Everyone thought if UConn beat Louisville under coach P they would get the ACC nod.) Well, UConn won that game, but lost the battle for ACC admission. UConn has to have great attendance! UConn had a easy path in the NCAA tourney! Yet Cal and Colorado, two crummy athletic programs are desirable? Forget about blockade by BC, FSU, Clemson and ESPN. Forget about the 4 corner schools and the Big 12. Notre Dame gets AAU status without merit. Cal and SMU considered for ACC membership. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Hopefully UConn will get off to a great start this football season, and I hope they can at least keep it close.
 
Nostical said:
Aug 31st is one of those rare moments where we get to showcase our upgraded football program— to the Big12 gurus who badmouthed our football, to the ACC who are trying to figure out the future, to the media who perennially love to doubt us—-and to our own skeptical fanbase.
Take the field with confidence and take the fight to NCState on the 31st and there’ll be lots more folks talking about the Husky renaissance. It’s all right there before us. Lots of ACC and Big12 eyeballs will be watching.

Which of these two headlines will we be reading after the game?

“UConn does little to dispel the reluctance of the Big12 to invite them to the party and confirms the ACC’s long held perception as they get dismantled by NCSt 42-6”
OR
”UConn shows the doubters why they were high on Bret Yormark’s Big12 wishlist and should be on the ACC’s, by upending NC St with a relentless attack for all 4 quarters, in a surprising 36-21 victory.“

This is our chance. Be there and make a difference.
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I know right? If only the stuff could be decided on the field. I mean I wish we had an opportunity to play Louisville head-to-head right before the ACC made the decision on which school should replace Maryland. A win back then could've changed everything!
 
buddy said:
We hear the same story all the time: Why is it always UConn has to win this game to get to a power conference! ( Everyone thought if UConn beat Louisville under coach P they would get the ACC nod.) Well, UConn won that game, but lost the battle for ACC admission. UConn has to have great attendance! UConn had a easy path in the NCAA tourney! Yet Cal and Colorado, two crummy athletic programs are desirable? Forget about blockade by BC, FSU, Clemson and ESPN. Forget about the 4 corner schools and the Big 12. Notre Dame gets AAU status without merit. Cal and SMU considered for ACC membership. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Hopefully UConn will get off to a great start this football season, and I hope they can at least keep it close.
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That win against Louisville in 2012 is sort of a half story...

True, UConn upset an 11 win Louisville....but UConn went on to have a losing season while Louisville went on to beat the 11 win Gators in the Sugar Bowl....

IMHO, Consistent winning seasons and wins over regarded teams will bring the Huskies football respect.
 
UConn has had some bad luck in CR...

ACC....Shalala already had the committment to add BC and Syracuse as a requirement for Miami to accept an ACC bid. Louisville looked pretty good and was in danger of being taken by the Big 12.

Big 12....The implosian of the Pac torpedoed UConn's chance as #14...
 
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billybud said:
UConn has had some bad luck in CR...

ACC....Shalala already had the committment to add BC and Syracuse as a requirement for Miami to accept an ACC bid. Louisville looked pretty good and was in danger of being taken by the Big 12.

Big 12....The implosian of the Pac torpedoed UConn's chance as #14...
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Thanks for the recap. :eek:
 
billybud said:
UConn has had some bad luck in CR...

ACC....Shalala already had the committment to add BC and Syracuse as a requirement for Miami to accept an ACC bid. Louisville looked pretty good and was in danger of being taken by the Big 12.

Big 12....The implosian of the Pac torpedoed UConn's chance as #14...
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Louisville wasn't in danger of being taken by the B12 since they picked WVU already. UConn was blocked by FSU and Clemson. It is as simple as that.
 
buddy said:
We hear the same story all the time: Why is it always UConn has to win this game to get to a power conference! ( Everyone thought if UConn beat Louisville under coach P they would get the ACC nod.) Well, UConn won that game, but lost the battle for ACC admission. UConn has to have great attendance! UConn had a easy path in the NCAA tourney! Yet Cal and Colorado, two crummy athletic programs are desirable? Forget about blockade by BC, FSU, Clemson and ESPN. Forget about the 4 corner schools and the Big 12. Notre Dame gets AAU status without merit. Cal and SMU considered for ACC membership. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Hopefully UConn will get off to a great start this football season, and I hope they can at least keep it close.
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Your comment about ND is spot on! 35 years of a title drought and everyone kisses their ass. They run roughshod over their ACC part time conference mates. No wonder FSU and Clemson want out...
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Louisville wasn't in danger of being taken by the B12 since they picked WVU already. UConn was blocked by FSU and Clemson. It is as simple as that.
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Maybe the thought was that UConn would be there if they wanted to go after UConn in the future.
 
billybud said:
Maybe the thought was that UConn would be there if they wanted to go after UConn in the future.
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That's always been the thought on UConn. Nobody else will take them, and if the ACC finally decided that there was a reason to add them, they would be available.
 
NE Football said:
I don’t see the ACC getting poached for the next ten years. FSU is making themselves less attractive to both the B1G & SEC. I highly doubt Florida, UGA, South Carolina and the lower tier teams will want either FSU or Clemson. They don’t need another automatic loss and a redundancy of markets.

The B1G studied 10 schools, two of which were Oregon & Washington. The five ACC teams were UNC, Duke, UVA, GT & Miami. All are AAU schools. The other 3 were Cal, Stanford & Utah.

If the B1G and SEC decide in the future, 2036, to grow to 24 teams the remaining ACC teams will all join the B12. A lot depends on the money offered by the networks in 2031.
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The ACC is next on the clock. No way FSU and Clemson stay until the end of the GOR. To think otherwise means you’re a fan of Syracuse or BC or Wake and are desperate to hold on to your spot in. P4 conference while it still exists.
 
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