2025 Recruiting: Acaden Lewis final four

[RuffRuff]

 

[dennismenace]

It's amazing how quick the guys we're recruiting become horrible players the second there's a whisper of them committing to another school

Their "playing" is just fine and not horrible. They are perhaps misguided and lack a few intangibles. Their choices will be indicative of this. By their choices they may reveal that they would not fit in this culture. It's not for everyone. That's OK.

 

[boog204]

Their "playing" is just fine and not horrible. They are perhaps misguided and lack a few intangibles. Their choices will be indicative of this. By their choices they may reveal that they would not fit in this culture. It's not for everyone. That's OK.

This is why we're generally considered to be a "toxic" fanbase. A player who chooses to go to another school is not "misguided" or "lack intangibles." They are choosing another school that may be a better fit for them for a myriad of reasons.

 

[dennismenace]

This is why we're generally considered to be a "toxic" fanbase. A player who chooses to go to another school is not "misguided" or "lack intangibles." They are choosing another school that may be a better fit for them for a myriad of reasons.

I wrapped up my comments which are just an opinion with this:

"By their choices they may reveal that they would not fit in this culture. It's not for everyone. That's OK".

I don't know what their reasons might be and neither do you.

I would not label this as "toxic" but that's just my opinion.

And btw, who considers us to be a "toxic fanbase"? "Cuse?" LOL.

 

[TheHorde]

I wrapped up my comments which are just an opinion with this:

"By their choices they may reveal that they would not fit in this culture. It's not for everyone. That's OK".

I don't know what their reasons might be and neither do you.

I would not label this as "toxic" but that's just my opinion.

And btw, who considers us to be a "toxic fanbase"? "Cuse?" LOL.

Seriously. Name me a fan base that isn’t toxic. I’m sure examples can be found in literally every fan base of “toxic behavior”.

 

[HooperScooper]

nd btw, who considers us to be a "toxic fanbase"? "Cuse?" LOL.

Andy Katz

Andy Katz list’s his top ten fanbases

I think we all know how passionate and dedicated the majority of our fanbase is so it’s nice to see Katz recognize that in his tweet today. I saw this cbkreport a couple of months ago and we weren’t listed in the Biggest Fan or Passionate Fan category but in the Toxic Fan category. Let’s...

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[boog204]

Seriously. Name me a fan base that isn’t toxic. I’m sure examples can be found in literally every fan base of “toxic behavior”.

For sure... But when the "toxic" fanbase thread came up a few weeks ago many people poo-poo'd it. This is an example. If a player chooses elsewhere they do not fit our culture. Again, there are many, many reasons that a player would choose to go elsewhere and it is not immediately a character flaw, lack of intangibles, or anything else. We are not the best choice for everyone. And that is perfectly fine.

 

[TheHorde]

For sure... But when the "toxic" fanbase thread came up a few weeks ago many people poo-poo'd it. This is an example. If a player chooses elsewhere they do not fit our culture. Again, there are many, many reasons that a player would choose to go elsewhere and it is not immediately a character flaw, lack of intangibles, or anything else. We are not the best choice for everyone. And that is perfectly fine.

I don’t think that comment was meant to describe EVERY recruit that goes elsewhere that way. Geography and being close to family is a good reason. Concerns over playing time might be another. There are some. But sometimes programs that win at a very high level are accused of being “toxic” frankly out of jealousy. The Patriots and its fan base drew a lot of hate from other canvases, including the Jets. The old quote about glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind there.

 

[awy]

DH is pretty toxic but he's also right most of the time. just strive to be both toxic and correct.

 

[RuffRuff]

 

[FlippinCrazy!]

I don’t think that comment was meant to describe EVERY recruit that goes elsewhere that way. Geography and being close to family is a good reason. Concerns over playing time might be another. There are some. But sometimes programs that win at a very high level are accused of being “toxic” frankly out of jealousy. The Patriots and its fan base drew a lot of hate from other canvases, including the Jets. The old quote about glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind there.

Best example of a toxic fan base is the Yankees. Throwing bottles and cans onto the field when they’re playing poorly or when a call doesn’t go their way.

 

[TheHorde]

Best example of a toxic fan base is the Yankees. Throwing bottles and cans onto the field when they’re playing poorly or when a call doesn’t go their way.

I’m a Red Sox fan, and there are plenty of degenerates at Fenway. EVERY fan base has them. Usually jealousy is what drives hate and perjoratives like calling a fan base “toxic”. A school that hasn’t made the tournament or a bowl game in a decade or two doesn’t generally get classified that way because nobody cares lol.

 

[UC1995]

I wouldn't consider us toxic. We just took a lot of notes when we were down and everyone was piling on us for our fall in basketball, for being in the AAC, for being horrible in football.

Now we are bringing those receipts and cashing in. Though I won't engage in it I revel in knowing that Syracuse is irrelevant and their site is like a ghost town. Karma!

 

[boog204]

I don’t think that comment was meant to describe EVERY recruit that goes elsewhere that way. Geography and being close to family is a good reason. Concerns over playing time might be another. There are some. But sometimes programs that win at a very high level are accused of being “toxic” frankly out of jealousy. The Patriots and its fan base drew a lot of hate from other canvases, including the Jets. The old quote about glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind there.

How about "entitled" instead of toxic? Virtually every recruit who chooses elsewhere is described as deficient in some way by our fanbase. Yet, there is an active thread criticizing "delusional" Kentucky fans for doing the same.

 

[TheHorde]

How about "entitled" instead of toxic? Virtually every recruit who chooses elsewhere is described as deficient in some way by our fanbase. Yet, there is an active thread criticizing "delusional" Kentucky fans for doing the same.

That’s painting with too broad a brush. “By our fan base.” By the entire fan base? Or by one or two or three opinions? And sometimes those opinions are wrong, but sometimes they are right. Adults often make mistakes in their lives and make bad decisions. Do 17 and 18 year olds? Sure they do. Some takes are bad and some have a lot of merit. Those who think all schools develop kids the same and it doesn’t matter where they go to school for the draft need to go read Braylon Mullins’ dad’s comments about this staff’s player development.

 

[FearThePups]

I’m a Red Sox fan, and there are plenty of degenerates at Fenway. EVERY fan base has them. Usually jealousy is what drives hate and perjoratives like calling a fan base “toxic”. A school that hasn’t made the tournament or a bowl game in a decade or two doesn’t generally get classified that way because nobody cares lol.

Not trying to hijack this thread, but we should have a thread for most obnoxious/toxic fan bases out there. I would start with the Philly Eagles.

 

[TheHorde]

Not trying to hijack this thread, but we should have a thread for most obnoxious/toxic fan bases out there. I would start with the Philly Eagles.

The Eagles is a solid choice. What other franchise has had a holding cell and on duty magistrate on site during home games? And booed Santa Claus and cheered as Michael Irvin was immobilized and carted off?

 

[Waquoit]

DH is pretty toxic but he's also right most of the time. just strive to be both toxic and correct.

Hurley is the opposite of toxic.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

That’s painting with too broad a brush. “By our fan base.” By the entire fan base? Or by one or two or three opinions? And sometimes those opinions are wrong, but sometimes they are right. Adults often make mistakes in their lives and make bad decisions. Do 17 and 18 year olds? Sure they do. Some takes are bad and some have a lot of merit. Those who think all schools develop kids the same and it doesn’t matter where they go to school for the draft need to go read Braylon Mullins’ dad’s comments about this staff’s player development.

The proverbial hit dog hollering.

 

[MuchoDogYears]

Hurley is the opposite of toxic.

Danny Detox

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Best example of a toxic fan base is the Yankees. Throwing bottles and cans onto the field when they’re playing poorly or when a call doesn’t go their way.

Careful….I was in the crowd at Gampel when a bunch of calls didn’t go our way vs Terry Dehere Seton Hall and Calhoun had to get on the mic to stop people from throwing ice and other things on the floor (I was too far away to reach the court with my soda and hot dog wrapper). So if that’s your main characteristic of a toxic fan base….

 

[TheHorde]

Careful….I was in the crowd at Gampel when a bunch of calls didn’t go our way vs Terry Dehere Seton Hall and Calhoun had to get on the mic to stop people from throwing ice and other things on the floor (I was too far away to reach the court with my soda and hot dog wrapper). So if that’s your main characteristic of a toxic fan base….

How about baseballs thrown onto the field when ARod was called out for slapping the ball out of Bronson Arroyo’s glove? Or batteries thrown at opposing outfielders? Lol

 

[JerseyAlum]

When we lost Flagg to Duke, I don't recall any uptick in "he didn't fit our system" and was likely the reason AK came back.

So Jalen Adams (and his whole family) unzip to show UConn Huskies and all is good, but if anyone we want reveals another team, so be it. I neither think it's about "which" other team nor about being jilted. We go after players, we get some, some go elsewhere. Makes a great story if we play them and it's brought up, but otherwise, I have no issues with losing recruits.

 

[boog204]

I have no issues with losing recruits.

Nor should we... I think Flagg was an outlier because we all knew that we were chasing from the start and we all, deep down, knew he fit the Duke "thing."

Just pulled up an old Ngongba thread to see if I am maybe misremembering. Quoting and paraphrasing: Duke "negatively recruited against us," "they buy their players," that PN "couldn’t carry Adama’s jockstrap. Or Donavan’s. Let’s get a real player,"Getiing 5 stars brings publicity, getting 4 stars brings championships," i.e. we didn't want him anyway, "Kids are dumb, naive , gullible and too easily manipulated. Especially this generation," and "exposes the mentality of many one and done$."

 

[HooperScooper]

Then there were 3. UNC is out.

The 6-foot-2, 170-pound combo guard from Washington, DC is no longer considering UNC. That leaves a final three that includes Duke, UConn, and Kentucky.

UConn:
"The visit was very impressive and I've been there twice now. They have a great coaching staff, atmosphere, and energy. I really enjoyed being there. Their main message is I can come in and play. They're looking for two guards to come in for this class and one big so the opportunity is there."

Four-star combo guard Acaden Lewis sets Duke official visit

Acaden Lewis is down to three schools with two official visits left.

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