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AAC upcoming TV deal will have huge ramifications for UConn, league

Guapo said:
Honest question; what do you think a reasonable expectation is for the next contract?
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Regardless of what some of our more delusional posters think - the next contract will be a function of the numbers of parties interested.

Make a case for a legitimate second bidder (nevermind third or fourth).

I suspect they will have two offers from ESPN. One that looks like today and one that keeps what is on linear TV on TV and moves the ESPN3 content to ESPN+.

I’d guess the first deal gets them 3-4 million and the second deal gets them 5-6 million.

Breaking it into a bunch of pieces would probably get them a few more dollars but is suicide from a competitive standpoint. The only thing the league has going for it is the deluge of games easily available on ESPN properties and ESPN having so many windows because so much has/will move to the SEC and ACC networks.
 
whaler11 said:
I’d guess the first deal gets them 3-4 million and the second deal gets them 5-6 million.
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A school? The conference? A year?
 
whaler11 said:
Regardless of what some of our more delusional posters think - the next contract will be a function of the numbers of parties interested.

Make a case for a legitimate second bidder (nevermind third or fourth).
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It's an easy case to make.

The AAC is the only proven college sports draw that'll be on the market until 2025.

What's your professional background?
 
StunningSteve said:
It's an easy case to make.

The AAC is the only proven college sports draw that'll be on the market until 2025.

What's your professional background?
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So it’s easy to make but you can’t actually name one non-ESPN bidder.

LOL - you don’t want to go down the professional background path trust me.

Aresco has already capitulated to ESPN and ESPN+, his public statements are just groveling because he has no outs and is stuck relying on ESPN’s benevolence.
 
whaler11 said:
So it’s easy to make but you can’t actually name one non-ESPN bidder.

LOL - you don’t want to go down the professional background path trust me.

Aresco has already capitulated to ESPN and ESPN+, his public statements are just groveling because he has no outs and is stuck relying on ESPN’s benevolence.
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Not exactly.

He's contractually bound to not recognize other suitors until Spring of '19.
 
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StunningSteve said:
Not exactly.

He's contractually bound to not recognize other suitors until Spring of '19.
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And if had them he’d just shut up.

Stadium is likely the only other out and that is much worse than ESPN+. That’s how he threw in ‘platform’ in his statement.
 
whaler11 said:
And if had them he’d just shut up.

Stadium is likely the only other out and that is much worse than ESPN+. That’s how he threw in ‘platform’ in his statement.
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Lol. I'd really love to hear your background.

He'd just shut up?

What a fantastic approach going into negotiations.
 
StunningSteve said:
Lol. I'd really love to hear your background.

He'd just shut up?

What a fantastic approach going into negotiations.
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Good grief. Do they still have ashtrays on the desks at Memphis State?

My background is being the financial lead on dozens of deals way bigger than the pennies the AAC get paid.

With every post you further show how clueless you are on this topic.

Why don’t you give us the name of one entity that is going to drive up the price of the deal. Because that is the one and oy reason the price goes up.
 
whaler11 said:
Good grief. Do they still have ashtrays on the desks at Memphis State?

My background is being the financial lead on dozens of deals way bigger than the pennies the AAC get paid.

With every post you further show how clueless you are on this topic.

Why don’t you give us the name of one entity that is going to drive up the price of the deal. Because that is the one and oy reason the price goes up.
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Amazon
 
Whaler’s right.

Where is the second bidder coming from?

The only thing resembling leverage is that ESPN has to make an offer in the exclusive window that is high enough to discourage someone from just taking a flyer on AAC content. I don’t know who that would be, but say the AAC has to go into the market with only a $15M offer from ESPN in its pocket, it’s cheap enough for some nascent streamer to get involved.

And putting the conference on one of those services is suicide, so we’re back to Whaler’s contention that we have precious little leverage.
 
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I’m not too optimistic after reading that article especially when Aresco is banking on this,

“We need to get paid for what we’ve done,” Aresco said.“

That’s not happening with ESPN.
 
gampelcrazies said:
Amazon
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Now if that were true... you’d keep your trap shut until Feb19 and wouldn’t be talking about metrics that have no relation to Amazon’s business.

Amazon et all while maybe not impossible seem pretty far fetched.
 
I’ve been saying double digits for years - and whaler11 has Pooh Pooh. I think at least $10m per school. And getting Tier 3 for us is huge.

That’s a multiple over $3m.
 
Pudge said:
I’ve been saying double digits for years - and whaler11 has Pooh Pooh. I think at least $10m per school. And getting Tier 3 for us is huge.

That’s a multiple over $3m.
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When did they ever say the schools get t3 rights back?

Is anyone other than me going to actually name a second bidder that is going to drive things to 120 million a year?

The absolute best realistic thing I can dream up is Sinclair buys the Fox RSNs and bid using that ‘network’ plus the OTA Sinclair affiliates and their Stadium streaming platform.

Now keep in mind ASN went belly-up and got rolled into Stadium so it’s not something that worked before.

This is the reality - not Netflix or Amazon.
 
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whaler11 said:
Now if that were true... you’d keep your trap shut until Feb19 and wouldn’t be talking about metrics that have no relation to Amazon’s business.

Amazon et all while maybe not impossible seem pretty far fetched.
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Another thing to think about it:

How much will "non money" variables, specifically better bowl tie-ins, factor into the negotiating process?
 
Guapo said:
Another thing to think about it:

How much will "non money" variables, specifically better bowl tie-ins, factor into the negotiating process?
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They can’t recruit without the exposure.

ESPN+ is coming together a lot faster than I thought it could. They should be looking to partner on that growth and go for complete saturation across the properties.

4/6/8/10 million - no matter the number hard decisions need to be made soon in Storrs.
 
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I'll give you two potential conventional bidders: CBS and AT&T Warner Media.

CBS has already been broadcasting AAC football and basketball games and this is where Aresco came from. And, CBS Sports Network needs more content with the future of unbundling. On the CBS network, CBS has some SEC football game rights, mostly 3:30 PM games. They have noon and night time slots mostly open. And CBS already does the Army/Navy game and the ND/Navy games when Navy is the home team. CBS already owns the NCAA basketball tournament with Turner Sports. And, CBS has a hole in their weekend lineups in the winter and could use some weekend day time basketball games.

As for Turner Sports, they own TBS, TNT, and TruTV and they own part of the NCAA men's basketball tournament with CBS. AT&T just bought Time Warner and they have deep pockets and a larger market cap than Disney. Turner desperately needs more sports content to remain relevant and they have financial risk with unbundling.

Finally, the big streaming services are all bigger companies that Disney by market cap: Alphabet (Google): $780 billion, Amazon: $825 billion, Facebook: $563 billion, Netflix: $170 billion, Disney: $155 billion. Do they find college sports an interesting asset to expand? Remember when the Big East signed with a young company named ESPN back in the day? It was groundbreaking. Would they start with the AAC and then go after other conferences later?
 
CL82 said:
Pretty sure the AAC voted to give UConn control of its T3 rights. Best source I could find was a Dooley tweet with Megan Bard confirming it.
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Reported awhile ago.

Whaler is talking out of his hindquarters. If he had a clue, he'd know that.

"My background is being the financial lead on dozens of deals way bigger than the pennies the AAC get paid."
LMFAO i.e. absolutely clueless about media valuations and properties
 
Our Tier 3 rights, or what people are referring to here, are not really worth much because there’s not a lot left over to call Tier 3.

Whatever ESPN doesn’t want is usually sold off to CBSSportsNet...whatever is left over after that is generally just some women’s hoop content.

That’s what was sold off to SNY. Originally, that money went to the conference, but the conference voted a while back to let us keep it.
 
Fishy said:
Our Tier 3 rights, or what people are referring to here, are not really worth much because there’s not a lot left over to call Tier 3.

Whatever ESPN doesn’t want is usually sold off to CBSSportsNet...whatever is left over after that is generally just some women’s hoop content.

That’s what was sold off to SNY. Originally, that money went to the conference, but the conference voted a while back to let us keep it.
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So a few bad MBB games, a few football games, but a ton of WBB games. That package has value.
 
CL82 said:
So a few bad MBB games, a few football games, but a ton of WBB games. That package has value.
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Last year the SNY games were 5 MBB games, 1 football game, and 15 WBB games.
 
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CL82 said:
Pretty sure the AAC voted to give UConn control of its T3 rights. Best source I could find was a Dooley tweet with Megan Bard confirming it.
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The Huskies have a lucrative TV deal with SNY (about $1 million a year) and a media rights deal with IMG (bringing in about $9 million a year, and set to expire after 2017-18) that is one of the best in the nation. The SNY money had gone directly to the AAC and then split among all member schools, but UConn argued during recent conference meetings that it should keep that money. Athletic directors voted in favor of that proposal, and UConn will retain about $3.1 million over the next three years because of it.

As Big East Money Dries Up, UConn Must Create Fresh Revenue Streams
 
StunningSteve said:
Reported awhile ago.

Whaler is talking out of his hindquarters. If he had a clue, he'd know that.

"My background is being the financial lead on dozens of deals way bigger than the pennies the AAC get paid."
LMFAO i.e. absolutely clueless about media valuations and properties
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Fishy said:
Our Tier 3 rights, or what people are referring to here, are not really worth much because there’s not a lot left over to call Tier 3.

Whatever ESPN doesn’t want is usually sold off to CBSSportsNet...whatever is left over after that is generally just some women’s hoop content.

That’s what was sold off to SNY. Originally, that money went to the conference, but the conference voted a while back to let us keep it.
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CL82 said:
So a few bad MBB games, a few football games, but a ton of WBB games. That package has value.
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A Memphis State grad who probably moves boxes at FedEx is talking smack lol. Tomorrow I’ll be working on things with 2 and 3 more zeros than the AAC deal and he’ll be explaining to someone why they lost their shipment from newegg.

UConn didn’t get their tier 3 rights back. They got the money back for the women’s basketball deal that was signed with SNY prior to the AAC deal. I believe it was exactly $1mm a year.

Unless something has changed the league owns everything going forward and UConn can’t sell the women’s basketball rights again.

Maybe Mrs Aresco should get her facts straight before running her mouth? Stunning Steve couldn’t value the loose change in his pocket - he can’t even dream up an entity that will magically make the contract bigger.

God it’s bad enough UConn has to subsidize this community college league - maybe don’t encourage their stupidest graduates.
 
Storrs South said:
The Huskies have a lucrative TV deal with SNY (about $1 million a year) and a media rights deal with IMG (bringing in about $9 million a year, and set to expire after 2017-18) that is one of the best in the nation. The SNY money had gone directly to the AAC and then split among all member schools, but UConn argued during recent conference meetings that it should keep that money. Athletic directors voted in favor of that proposal, and UConn will retain about $3.1 million over the next three years because of it.

As Big East Money Dries Up, UConn Must Create Fresh Revenue Streams
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Oh so who had it right? Let’s count the years... 18, 19, 20. 1 million x 3 years = 3 million and then bye bye - those rights get sold with the rest of the AAC inventory in the 2021 deal.
 
Fishy said:
Our Tier 3 rights, or what people are referring to here, are not really worth much because there’s not a lot left over to call Tier 3.

Whatever ESPN doesn’t want is usually sold off to CBSSportsNet...whatever is left over after that is generally just some women’s hoop content.

That’s what was sold off to SNY. Originally, that money went to the conference, but the conference voted a while back to let us keep it.
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I think that people are just saying that any new deal needs to preserve for UConn 100% of any WBB contract we get.
 
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