OT: A real class act.....

[chj001]

Had the weak tennis organization nipped it in the bud, there would be no Serena situation. Why no one didn't pound out McEnroe was always a mystery to me. McEnroe and Connors behavior caused me to not watch tennis.

Strongly agree. I was at the infamous McEnroe/Nastase night match back in the '80s when both players started acting badly. Eventually. the chair umpire, Frank Hammond, I believe considered one of the best of that era, began calling penalties on both players, one of whom called for the tournament referee. Perhaps influenced in part by an extremely unruly crowd (I remember being quite embarrassed by the behavior of not just the players but the crowd as well,) his response to requests by both players that Hammond be removed, was to replace Hammond, rather than support him.

 

[oldude]

Eh, I don't think they have a "right". They take it, and refs let them get away with it, but I don't believe there are any rights to question calls and argue with refs. Other than the challenges with Hawk-eye (which really doesn't apply here).

Oh, and I do not consider it belligerent at all. Maybe you've never played sports before??

Actually, you’re incorrect. The rules of tennis have a procedure in place for a player to challenge an umpire’s decision. Subsequently, if the player is not satisfied with the umpire’s decision they are allowed to appeal that decision to the tournament referee, which is exactly what happened in Serena’s match. While the ruling was not overturned, Serena was well within her rights to question the decision.

I assure you I’ve played and coached several sports through college and beyond. You claim to be a soccer referee. When a player disputed one of your calls, have you ever told them to “shut up and play?”

 

[Beemer]

Had the weak tennis organization nipped it in the bud, there would be no Serena situation. Why no one didn't pound out McEnroe was always a mystery to me. McEnroe and Connors behavior caused me to not watch tennis.

I agree. If the various tournaments and the ATP had had the guts to hammer those two (Ilie Nastase too) right from the start tennis would be a much better game today. Controversy sells though and they chickened out.

 

[SVCBeercats]

If you notice in my response to temery’s post, I equate Serena’s remarks with Meyers7 “shut up and played” remark.

I did notice and Serene's remarks went way beyond shut up and play.

 

[oldude]

I did notice and Serene's remarks went way beyond shut up and play.

So if you did notice my post equating the two sets of remarks, why in the world did you feel it necessary to then ask me how I classified Serena’s remarks? Were you simply trolling for a response so that you could disagree?

 

[JustinesGuy]

Serena was not penalized for questioning a call. She was penalized for abusive behavior.

And I don't know of many sports where the player has a right to argue with a ref. Questioning a call is asking, "are you sure?"

I hate the finger pointing by Serena too. Pointing her finger at the chair. Argh.
Ok we’ve beat this one to death.

She’s wrong , needs to clean up her act. Should be reprimanded. Time for me to move on and talk hoops.

 

[Bama fan]

You say potato, Myers said patato. If it was said to her directly, I agree it would have been a bit too much.

Meyers has always had trouble with his vowel sounds. Kinda like a Kiwi. he should get some help from Vowelguy!

 

[eebmg]

Latest wrinkle. After all is said and done, Serena seemed to do Naomi a big favor.

"Naomi Osaka is reportedly set to sign Adidas' biggest deal with a female athlete — and it could make her one of the highest-paid women in sports"

A deal worth $8.5 million annually could be announced Thursday, according to The Times


Naomi Osaka is reportedly set to sign Adidas' biggest deal with a female athlete — and it could make her one of the highest-paid women in sports

I can't even imagine how popular she must be in Japan

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Some interesting info regarding the booing and what Osaka was thinking.

Here's one: " Osaka admitted that she thought the crowd might have been booing at her during the match. "At the time, I did kind of think they were booing at me," she said. "I couldn’t tell what was going on because it was just so loud in there, so it was a little bit stressful."

U.S. Open Champ Osaka Reveals Serena Williams Said She Was "Proud" of Her During Match

Going to buy her parents a TV with her winnings. That's got to be one crazy TV!

 

[eebmg]

Some interesting info regarding the booing and what Osaka was thinking.

Here's one: " Osaka admitted that she thought the crowd might have been booing at her during the match. "At the time, I did kind of think they were booing at me," she said. "I couldn’t tell what was going on because it was just so loud in there, so it was a little bit stressful."

U.S. Open Champ Osaka Reveals Serena Williams Said She Was "Proud" of Her During Match

Going to buy her parents a TV with her winnings. That's got to be one crazy TV!

Actually. Ellen gave her a 65" TV so she does not even need to dip into her winnings.

Also Ellen giving Naomi some major agita by texting her crush Michael B. Jordan.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I hate the finger pointing by Serena too. Pointing her finger at the chair. Argh.
Ok we’ve beat this one to death.

She’s wrong , needs to clean up her act. Should be reprimanded. Time for me to move on and talk hoops.

A report of Refs considering boycott of Serena's matches. Anonymous sources kind of stuff. Doubt anything comes of it, though maybe it will spark a union effort.

Tennis Umpires Reportedly Considering Serena Williams Boycott

 

[triaddukefan]

A report of Refs considering boycott of Serena's matches. Anonymous sources kind of stuff. Doubt anything comes of it, though maybe it will spark a union effort.

Tennis Umpires Reportedly Considering Serena Williams Boycott

Hope they do boycott.... they are only gonna hurt their pocket books. They can always find new refs.

 

[oldude]

A report of Refs considering boycott of Serena's matches. Anonymous sources kind of stuff. Doubt anything comes of it, though maybe it will spark a union effort.

Tennis Umpires Reportedly Considering Serena Williams Boycott

I’m sure that if the tennis refs all strike, tennis tournaments everywhere will have a really hard time finding people to sit in lifeguard chairs and announce the scores of the match over a P.A. system, which is about 98% of their job.

Or, even better, the matches can be officiated like the vast majority of HS, College and tennis club matches everywhere....by the players actually playing the match.

 

[triaddukefan]

I’m sure that if the tennis refs all strike, tennis tournaments everywhere will have a really hard time finding people to sit in lifeguard chairs and announce the scores of the match over a P.A. system, which is about 98% of their job.

Or, even better, the matches can be officiated like the vast majority of HS, College and tennis club matches everywhere....by the players actually playing the match.

Shoot.... ......... I could ref..... just gimme half the money that these crybaby refs get paid....... transportation, lodging, and an food expense account..

 

[RockyMTblue2]

HoNo, seriously, I think they are jus

I’m sure that if the tennis refs all strike, tennis tournaments everywhere will have a really hard time finding people to sit in lifeguard chairs and announce the scores of the match over a P.A. system, which is about 98% of their job.

Or, even better, the matches can be officiated like the vast majority of HS, College and tennis club matches everywhere....by the players actually playing the match.

Ho Ho John McEnroe! Could be very entertaining.

 

[triaddukefan]

Ho Ho John McEnroe! Could be very entertaining.

I will admit, refs back in the day had a lot of patience and ability to hold their emotions in check. The way punks like Connors and a few others used to spout off...I'm kinda suprised that none of them asked them for a face to face meeting after the match. Perhaps they did....

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Shoot.... .... I could ref..... just gimme half the money that these crybaby refs get paid.. transportation, lodging, and an food expense account..

The umpires are the crybabies?

 

[triaddukefan]

The umpires are the crybabies?

Yes... if they are gonna boycott over this... then yes. Plenty of crybabies around in tennis..... players, and now looks like some umpires

 

[JDuro]

A report of Refs considering boycott of Serena's matches. Anonymous sources kind of stuff. Doubt anything comes of it, though maybe it will spark a union effort.

Tennis Umpires Reportedly Considering Serena Williams Boycott

This would be dumb. They need to not lower themselves and just keep doing their jobs. Boycotting will only give Serena apologists ammunition.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

This would be dumb. They need to not lower themselves and just keep doing their jobs. Boycotting will only give Serena apologists ammunition.

I suspect you are right. Bruised egos. Cooler heads will prevail. Or maybe Serena will buy them all a Mercedes?

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Yes... if they are gonna boycott over this... then yes. Plenty of crybabies around in tennis..... players, and now looks like some umpires

Boycotting won't do any good considering they have little power. That said, I understand them not being happy with the WTA and USTA.

 

[eebmg]

Latest wrinkle. After all is said and done, Serena seemed to do Naomi a big favor.

"Naomi Osaka is reportedly set to sign Adidas' biggest deal with a female athlete — and it could make her one of the highest-paid women in sports"

A deal worth $8.5 million annually could be announced Thursday, according to The Times


Naomi Osaka is reportedly set to sign Adidas' biggest deal with a female athlete — and it could make her one of the highest-paid women in sports

I can't even imagine how popular she must be in Japan

Just saw this.

Naomi Osaka, US Open winner, signs with Nissan as 'brand ambassador'

Osaka will be so huge in Japan

 

[vtcwbuff]

Osaka IS huge. A metro population of 19 mil (#2 in Japan) and 90 square miles.

 

[meyers7]

Actually, you’re incorrect. The rules of tennis have a procedure in place for a player to challenge an umpire’s decision. Subsequently, if the player is not satisfied with the umpire’s decision they are allowed to appeal that decision to the tournament referee, which is exactly what happened in Serena’s match. While the ruling was not overturned, Serena was well within her rights to question the decision.

I assure you I’ve played and coached several sports through college and beyond. You claim to be a soccer referee. When a player disputed one of your calls, have you ever told them to “shut up and play?”

Let's be clear here, I did not tell her to shut up and play. I suggested it would have been in her best interest to do that. Obviously she was not bright enough to do that and it cost her. As it should have. Somebody should have told her that. It would have helped.

And if you read my post accurately, I was not incorrect.

I highly doubt you've played or coached much (if any) if you've never come across "shut up and play".

 

[vtcwbuff]

Meyers - only one thing I disagree with. I think she is bright enough, it's just that she feels "entitled enough" to get away with acting the brat.

I don't follow tennis, but I wonder, do any low ranked players behave like that?

 

[SVCBeercats]

S

When I saw the title. I thought this thread was about Napheesa Collier. Now there is a class act!!! Even Dawn Staley has said so.

"Napheesa I've had a number of opportunities to coach her on USA Basketball teams and a solid citizen," Staley said on Thursday at NCAA women's basketball media day at ESPN. "I've never received a thank you card from any player that I've coached but she did that and that shows the true character of a person when they can do something like that. I love coaching Napheesa ..."

 

[temery]

Meyers - only one thing I disagree with. I think she is bright enough, it's just that she feels "entitled enough" to get away with acting the brat.

I don't follow tennis, but I wonder, do any low ranked players behave like that?

Yes, but low ranked players have far fewer opportunities because they often lose earlier in the tournament, and play fewer matches. And unfortunately, early round are not well attended, and are rarely televised, so some rules governing behavior aren't enforced as consistently.

 

[eebmg]

I was curious to see if Serena and Naomi may meet in the 2018 WTA Finals. Top 8 ranked get in and 2 alternates
Hosted in Singapore so Naomi has a clear advantage (or perhaps disadvantage with too much pressure?)

As of this moment, Naomi is in (ranked 4) and Serena is out (ranked 11) based on the latest wikipedia update at

2018 WTA Finals - Wikipedia


If I read this correctly, Serena has no more tournaments scheduled in which she could move up so unless their is some massive injury event, no meeting until next year is possible.