and wen I was looking at schools, UCONN was as easy to get into and as poorly regarded academically as a community college. That was 1987 for a time persective.
Things have changed both for RU athletically, and UCONN academically.
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and wen I was looking at schools, UCONN was as easy to get into and as poorly regarded academically as a community college. That was 1987 for a time persective.
Things have changed both for RU athletically, and UCONN academically.
Rutgers is the state university of NJ. That alone makes it special. Rutgers is a member of the very prestigious AAU...something UCONN is not and can only hope to achieve. That is something special.
Rutgers is the 8th oldest college in the United States. That makes it pretty special. Rutgers has amazing alumni, including Garret Hobart, a former Vice President of the United States under President McKinley..... the biologist, Selma Waskman, who won a Nobel Prize for his discovery of the antibody for tuberculosis.... and maybe the world's greatest economist, Milton Friedman, also a winner of a Nobel Prize.
The fact that you don't know any of that is more a reflection of your poor education than it is of Rutgers' merits. And.. good for you if you'd rather go to school in the middle of no where rather than a city with a vibrant restaurant scene, bar and brewpub scene, multiple theaters including the State Theater, and multiple museums and cultural centers. But you do have cows, right?
We have a 53,000 seat on campus state of the art football stadium. That's pretty relevant. At least that what Jim Delany told Tim Pernetti in the initial talks between the two.
By the way, The highway does not go through any of the actual campuses of Rutgers, they are all clearly defined. The highway runs along side of it....and even if it did...a highway cuts through Harvard as well...and I guess you wouldn't have gone there for that reason as well?
You are a poor example of a New Jersey education.
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You're overselling Rutgers.
They're heading to the Big Ten because 1) Maryland is and 2) they're in New Jersey.
They're not an academic wonderland nor do they have a particularly good athletic program.
And Jim Delaney's first thought on their 'state of the art' stadium was, "Say, can you build a new one?"
They're heading to the Big Ten because 1) Maryland is and 2) they're in New Jersey.
They're not an academic wonderland nor do they have a particularly good athletic program.
And Jim Delaney's first thought on their 'state of the art' stadium was, "Say, can you build a new one?"
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I hate these Rutgers/UConn pissing matches. I respect Rutgers and their fanbase. Rutgers is in a better position academically (member of AAU), located in a spot that could help deliver Philly and NYC, and already expanded their football stadium. That is why they got the invite to the B1G ahead of UConn. UConn has the better athletics but will need the next 1-2 years to position for an AAU invite (UConn is close and already ranked favorably to other AAU members in certain criteria used), stabilize MBB APR scores to continue its national prominence, and get back to being a bowl football program and expanding the Rent. Once UConn can gain acceptance to the AAU, they already have the US News Ranking backing, also excellent location that can help deliver Boston and NYC, and a solid history of conference and national championship athletic programs.
I happen to think RU/UConn need each other, in certain ways. It's no coincidence that once UConn joined the Big East, RU began to become competitive that led to stadium expansion. Together, they could deliver NYC and completely lock out the ACC and others.
I happen to think RU/UConn need each other, in certain ways. It's no coincidence that once UConn joined the Big East, RU began to become competitive that led to stadium expansion. Together, they could deliver NYC and completely lock out the ACC and others.
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Rutgers is a good school like UConn and are ranked comparably by U.S. News, although UConn is ranked slightly higher. Yes, Rutgers has the AAU designation, but UConn will in the future. As for acceptance rates (2011): Rutgers 61.1%, UConn 47.3%.
I wish Rutgers good luck in the Big 10 and I hold no animosity towards them. Unless they upgrade their athletic program, they will be as successful in the Big 10 as they were in the Big East. Not very.
I wish Rutgers good luck in the Big 10 and I hold no animosity towards them. Unless they upgrade their athletic program, they will be as successful in the Big 10 as they were in the Big East. Not very.
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in the interest of being factual, can you explain what has changed athletically at RU? Please point out all the trophy's RU has won, BCS Bowl appearances, Big East Championships in FB or BB, BET championships (that stands for Big East Tournament, in case as a RU fan you are not familiar with the term), or National Championships in any sport. We can start from 1987, so no one has to hear about your Co-Championship.
If RU was as great as you want us to believe you wouldn't be here trying to convince us. I respect RU because they have done things recently that has improved their football image. Things that Connecticut should have been doing imo. The respect pretty much ends there though.
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This is the typical Rutgers spin.
Real comment : Delaney told them originally they would have to move all conference games to Metlife stadium, but then they convinced him that the "on campus stadium" (in the middle of a residential neighborhood in Piscataway) was ok. They still have to play big conference games in Metlife
Rutgers spin: (on a UConn board no less): Delaney told them their wonderful on-campus stadium was the reason they were invited
Other common Rutgers folklore:
- They were invited to the Ivy league, but turned it down, because who needs the Ivy league right?
- Idiots in other parts of the country think Rutgers is a small, elite private college instead of a huge, sprawling state one, so that makes their academic reputation better. I have had a friend babble for an hour to me about how his Rutgers degree is worth more in Texas or California than in NJ.
Congrats on getting invited into the B1G, it will do wonders for the school. Hopefully they can use the money to fix up and unify the campus a little more. But the fact that you guys are over here defending yourselves speaks volumes.
Looks like someone dove back under their rock in '99 '04 and '11
This is all esoteric information that is worthless to anyone that didn't go to Rutgers and does not speak for anyone's education or lack thereof. Oh goodness, so I didn't know that McKinley's Vice President went to Rutgers...what a helpless ignorant I am....
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Back in 1986, my brother got into New York University, a full scholarship from Syracuse University, and was rejected from UConn. He went to NYU and is doing well.
From the ashes of the Terry Shea era, a lot has changed for Rutgers Football. For the last 10 years, I can provide winning percentages, bowl games/streak information, number of NFL players coming from Rutgers, recruitment rankings, however, you have the same access to this information as I do and its all relative. What I see as success, you may see as failure.
More important, the reason I'm on the UConn Boneyard is not to convince UConn fans of anything. I primarily read the threads because of information about conference realignment as its an interest of mine. Due to UConn's position, this board has a number of posters who are on the forefront of conference realignment information, as well as, there's a lot of very creative thinking about realignment.
There is also a minority of posters who use Rutgers to lash out about UConn's conference situation. Some posts have accurate information. Other posts have misleading and bad information and/or no information. Some posts use Rutgers as a means of self worth for UConn as a University. Once in awhile you have the utter nonsense such as a fairly confident statement from a poster that Rutgers is a cheap tuition path for people in New Jersey, nobody cares about its sports programs and there's no pride in the school. Then the poster continues to bash New Brunswick, infrastructure, the campus and everything else that he believes is wrong with Rutgers based on his observations of where he grew up. Sorry, this deserved a response.
If you and I were on another board and I made a nonsense statement that I was confident the State of Connecticut has very little population, is a state that people only drive through to get from New York to Boston, required clean up of where the football stadium is located, thus, I concluded nobody has an interest in UConn and its sports programs including pride in the school, would you respond? I'm willing to bet you would respond with facts and figures, the same as I did.
A number of Rutgers fans, myself included, empathize with UConn's conference position, wish the best for the Sports programs and would like to see UConn succeed with realignment to ensure its football and basketball teams play at the highest levels.
Listen, son, that was all me and you can just directly call me out. My posts are still in this thread unedited and I stand by my decision to not go to the severely overrated RU. There is literally zero reason to attend Rutgers unless, as previously mentioned, you're looking for a cheap, easy route to a degree as a resident of NJ (BUT OH DERP IT'S THE 8TH OLDEST COLLEGE IN THE US). You can try to justify your fandom all you want but it won't change anything. Sorry to break your heart.
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First, I'm not your son. Writing negative and offensive opinions about a University that I did not attend and have limited knowledge of, or worse a biased opinion about, is not part of my DNA. I addressed your subjective post directly with facts about fandom attendance at Rutgers. You chose to focus on the "not admitted" part without reading the rest of the sentence. Good for you. I'm glad you found zero reason to attend Rutgers. Rutgers would not be interested in that type of student. Your unsubstantiated opinions certainly do not break my heart. My heart would be broken if Rutgers did not have a path forward out of the Big East.
"Son," in this case, a clueless child flailing around trying to justify their actions or beliefs in order to satisfy others, to whom said beliefs ultimately mean nothing.
I can't help if you are offended by my opinions of RU. That speaks more of your subconsciously similar opinion of RU. Your holding offense adds more weight to my criticisms than anything. Your post was little more than general butthurtedness, and I quoted only the part that was in any way worth responding to because it was the only part that could be discerned as being directed at me. Nice passive-aggressive attitude.
Too bad you weren't on the admissions board of Rutgers, or else you surely would have not wasted the admission offer that I received. Looking back, I actually found it funny how much Rutgers was an afterthought after I had been accepted to UConn, TCNJ, Northeastern, and the like. Hell, I probably would have gone to Rowan as an engineering student before I went to Rutgers.
Rutgers is at best am in-state fall-back. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can reconcile your attending.
I can't help if you are offended by my opinions of RU. That speaks more of your subconsciously similar opinion of RU. Your holding offense adds more weight to my criticisms than anything. Your post was little more than general butthurtedness, and I quoted only the part that was in any way worth responding to because it was the only part that could be discerned as being directed at me. Nice passive-aggressive attitude.
Too bad you weren't on the admissions board of Rutgers, or else you surely would have not wasted the admission offer that I received. Looking back, I actually found it funny how much Rutgers was an afterthought after I had been accepted to UConn, TCNJ, Northeastern, and the like. Hell, I probably would have gone to Rowan as an engineering student before I went to Rutgers.
Rutgers is at best am in-state fall-back. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can reconcile your attending.
I will not and do not accept that. Nice try in insulting me once again. but you fail. I gave you several reasons, non sports related, why I am proud of my university. Why don't you give me some reasons as relevant as the ones I provided...why you're proud of UCONN.
Rutgers is everything as a flagship state university that UCONN is....and in my opinion, more. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you will see what the Big Ten saw when choosing Rutgers over UCONN.
I'm not offended by your opinions of Rutgers. I'm offended by your sheer ignorance and stupidity of about the flagship university of your home state.
You must not have tried very hard in high school. If you did, you wouldn't be so under-educated. Unless you applied to UConn in the last two years, Rutgers was ranked ahead of UCONN in the USN&WR for like the last 50 years running ...and remains ahead of UCONN in all BUT the USN&WR to this day. That is the only rag that puts UCONN ahead of Rutgers.
If you think you are going to tell Rutgers fans that we are nothing but a safety school, you're out of your league, son. We have way too much to be proud of as an institution...to be insulted by a flea like you....who most likely did not get in to Rutgers. All those other schools you mentioned? Sure you got in to them.
I would be pissed if I couldn't get into my flagship state university, especially since they are on their way to the Big Ten.
I get it. I get your hate. If I didn't try hard enough in high school, I would be mad too.
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Oh my god go away already. It's freaking Christmas. I most definitely got into Rutgers. I can scan in my acceptance letter, it was he very first one I got. What the hell do they tell you people when you go there that makes you think it's freaking Harvard? It's a good state school, so is UConn. I personally think NB and the Rutgers campus are a thole. You don't I guess. Rutgers is certainly not for everyone. Deal with it. You think UConn is in the middle of nowhere. I agree, that doesn't bother me that you think that, and I loved it.
Any time I have been to scarletnation.com, I have seen several inaccuracies and outright lies posted about UConn. I don't even think of responding. You know why? IT DOESN'T MATTER AND IT'S THIER BOARD. The fact that you guys keep coming here to "correct us" speaks to deeper character flaws within yourselves. Use this holiday for some self reflection.
Compensation such as this is a classic defense mechanism. It's similar to closeted homosexuals who cannot reconcile their sexual/romantic nature being the most vocally homophobic.
But I wouldn't know any of this, I didn't even get in to Rutgers.
But I wouldn't know any of this, I didn't even get in to Rutgers.
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Your insecurity, by insulting my school to feel good about your own school, is providing me entertainment as well.
And resorting to childish homosexual jokes? A true sign of someone not capable of carrying an intelligent conversation. You're obviously from the "low class" section of NJ. Probably the reason you were denied by RU.
Ok, You're no longer fun. I'm out. Enjoy your new place in the conference of schools that are unwanted by the big boy conferences.
Maybe some day you'll get into the MAC. That would be a step up from the slop you're being left behind with.
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Holy crap you are editing your post like 3 times after you post them, this is great. You are so concerned with UConn, this is like watching a psychology experiment unfold before my eyes.
You have some serious insecurities, UCONN and Rutgers are really closely ranked academically. I was admitted to both, and went to Rutgers. It doesn't make either school any better or worse. Rutgers had a much better ranked program in what I wanted to do. It's clear you're attacking the merits of Rutgers to boost your preconceived ideas. Nothing we say can change what you believe, even if none of the facts support what you are saying.
In one of our worst seasons in the last 10 years. One loss doesn't define a program, Pitt lost to Youngstown state. Michigan to Appalachian, Arkansas to LA-Monroe. It happens. I think looking at programs on a decade long scale is fairly reasonable test of where it is heading.
What dumb logic. The edit function gets used most often right after someone posts something, because of grammar. They also reword their arguments once they have reread them.
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Thank you for the kind words RUwinning, I guess I should have expanded my thought for all of the UConn obsessed RU posters out there that get their panties in a bunch if a NJ native tells them that going to college in the sprawling bus systems of gorgeous NB and Pisc was not their idea of an ideal college experience.
This bugsy guy has several times posted a post with mild insults in it and then It would appear, sits for a few minutes and lets his rage build up, then goes back and adds another paragraph of insults to the post. This is not a simple edit for grammar; it would lead one to believe that this board, which is the board of a school that is not even a conference mate anymore, takes up a significant amount of his time and energy
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I'll save Rutgers and UConn fans a lot of time by simply posting the following facts:
Rutgers and UConn are peer institutions academically.
Rutgers and UConn are similar football programs.
Rutgers Basketball hangs up NIT Appearance Banners at The RAC, while UConn hangs up 3 National Championship banners.
New Brunswick isn't a great town, but the individual campuses are nice, however it has a disjointed feel because you have to take buses to get between the 5 campuses (College Ave, Busch, Livingston, Cook and Douglass). Storrs is quite literally in the middle of nowhere in Eastern CT. Storrs is UConn. You either hate it or love it.
And ultimately the only difference that matters in this exercise is that New Jersey has a lot more cable TV households than Connecticut.
Rutgers and UConn are peer institutions academically.
Rutgers and UConn are similar football programs.
Rutgers Basketball hangs up NIT Appearance Banners at The RAC, while UConn hangs up 3 National Championship banners.
New Brunswick isn't a great town, but the individual campuses are nice, however it has a disjointed feel because you have to take buses to get between the 5 campuses (College Ave, Busch, Livingston, Cook and Douglass). Storrs is quite literally in the middle of nowhere in Eastern CT. Storrs is UConn. You either hate it or love it.
And ultimately the only difference that matters in this exercise is that New Jersey has a lot more cable TV households than Connecticut.
I'd love to see the path of logic that brought you to the conclusion that I am somehow insecure about my decision to not go to Rutgers.
No your insecurities are about the worth of UCONN, you can not validate your self worth without denigrating Rutgers.
Exactly this. This is extremely correct, but I believe UCONN does command a large amount of TV's still.
Seriously? are you that dumb that you don't even know how you're being insulted?
An.d you got into Rutgers? Sure you did!
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