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Yet somehow Newton averages 4.8 APG. Diarra hasn't been a slouch either.

Cole only averaged 4.1 last year, although he was good getting to the line.
We have no guards. We share the ball well. We have no guards. Not March guards. Not January guards. We have November guards. And if that sounds like a slight on Newton or diarra, it’s not. They are trying hard. I have no problem with them. It’s just our team make up.
 
Blaming the refs for the disparity is ridiculous. Providence played with tremendous intensity, attacked the rim, and drew fouls. That’s why a disrity. Hurley had no answers except to get angry and complain.

So you know better than a national media writer? Interesting. What are your credentials? Who have you interviewed to reach your conclusion?
 
This is really unbelievable. Twice in 2 games, twice before that in the history of the sport. Yeah, launch the investigation, this is an integrity problem now.
Last 10 years not forever.
 
We have no guards. We share the ball well. We have no guards. Not March guards. Not January guards. We have November guards. And if that sounds like a slight on Newton or diarra, it’s not. They are trying hard. I have no problem with them. It’s just our team make up.
100%.

Yes, Clingan needs more minutes as he's clearly (hilariously so) a better 5 than Sanogo. But they've got to create opportunities above the rim. That means you need legit PG distribution.
 
Complaining about the refs is a loser’s lament.
How did AJax play in the first half? How was the uptempo offense? How about the tenacious D? There's a reason we didn't see any of that.
 
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I rest my case.


Weak sauce - take the fine and light them up. You pull the last 2 game stats and you put the spot light right on it. You question the conference’s commitment to quality officiating. You say officiating disproportionately effected the team, impacts the players and undermines competition. You punch them right in the mouth and take your fine. He can afford it. That’s leadership and protecting your kids.
 
Tonight we shot 23% from 3 and 53% from the line. Was that the ref’ fault?

Meanwhile, Providence shot 44% from 3 and 83% from the line. Were the refs somehow helping them do that?

Stop making excuses.
 
Tonight we shot 23% from 3 and 53% from the line. Was that the ref’ fault?

Meanwhile, Providence shot 44% from 3 and 83% from the line. Were the refs somehow helping them do that?

Stop making excuses.

Obvious troll is obvious.
 
UConn was terrible shooting, but the foul disparity makes no sense to me looking at box score.

How does UConn give up 35 foul shots while PC has only 18 points in the paint and took only 49 shots. PC also shot only 32% from 2-point range.

Not saying refs were wrong in their calls, but the game was played at same physicality level, the rebounding was even, the 3-point shots were even.

Everything in this game was even except foul shots, 16 more free throws and held a +19 advantage from line.

This one was weird.
 
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We shot 4 free throws against Butler but won so the refs weren't the problem. We got out free throwed(new word) against LIU but won so no inquiry. Look at the free throw differential in the Oregon and Florida games. Through 16 games we have shot less free throws in eight of them. Two of the cupcake teams shot more. Our starting center has excellent post moves but shies away from contact. Karaban is a full year away from being a player that will try to initiate contact. Hawk is decent but still 10 pounds away from trying to draw contact on a consistent basis. Newton doesn't seem like he is interested in doing it. Andre doesn't have the offensive game for it. Not the game of Calc, Neheem or Diarra. Clingan played 20 minutes and shot 8 free throws which feels about right. We had a lot of wide open, run and gun games early which is what we want. The Big East is a different story. It's not the refs. We still have a very good team but drawing fouls is not our strength.
 
We played like garbage tonight. The officiating wasn't the issue. We couldn't move the ball.
This team has not looked not only like the best team in the country but we dont even look like the best team in the conference. Luckily its early enough that we can get back on track. I was thinking with Diarra and Alleyne starting to play well this team was going to take off but it seems like 1. Since conference play started the refs have been an issue. Anyone that denies it has his head in the sand. 2. AS is having trouble vs other quality bigs and 3. Our defense has looked horrible! In particular Karaban cant guard a chair and its really troubling.
 
We sucked shooting from three and from the stripe. Providence hustled more and seemed to get 90% of the loose balls tonight. Those were two huge reasons why Providence won.

I'm not gonna say the refs cost us the game, but it's OK to say the officials sucked too as much as our shooting did.

Don't mistake me, I'm not saying UConn deserved to get to the line more because we didn't. But Providence's FTA should have been much lower. There must have been a 4-5 minute stretch in the first half where every time Providence wasn't putting the ball in the hoop a foul was called. I'm tired of referees blowing the whistle because they ANTICIPATE a foul. You see it all the time and it kills the flow of the game.

Both halves the Friars were in the double bonus very early. For god sakes they called 47 fouls tonight. A complete joke.

Again, I'm not saying that's the reason we lost but I'd put it 3rd after our crappy shooting and Providence working to get all 50/50 plays.
 
We sucked shooting from three and from the stripe. Providence hustled more and seemed to get 90% of the loose balls tonight. Those were two huge reasons why Providence won.

I'm not gonna say the refs cost us the game, but it's OK to say the officials sucked too as much as our shooting did.

Don't mistake me, I'm not saying UConn deserved to get to the line more because we didn't. But Providence's FTA should have been much lower. There must have been a 4-5 minute stretch in the first half where every time Providence wasn't putting the ball in the hoop a foul was called. I'm tired of referees blowing the whistle because they ANTICIPATE a foul. You see it all the time and it kills the flow of the game.

Both halves the Friars were in the double bonus very early. For god sakes they called 47 fouls tonight. A complete joke.

Again, I'm not saying that's the reason we lost but I'd put it 3rd after our crappy shooting and Providence working to get all 50/50 plays.

The refs weren’t anticipating calls. When a team takes the ball to the hole - especially when they do it on fast breaks - and they do it before the defense can get their feet set, they tend to get the calls no matter who the refs are. Seeing that this was working for PC, Hurley could have done the same thing. But he didn’t.
 
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i'm loathe to complain about officiating since a) i ref high school basketball and b) it's generally for babies. but it is painfully obvious we are getting shafted with calls.

last night's game is even worse than it looks based on stats. there was a blatant attempt by the refs to balance the number of fouls in the second half when it was 7-2, or around there, by them calling ticky tack, inconsequential, non shooting fouls on providence.
 
i'm loathe to complain about officiating since a) i ref high school basketball and b) it's generally for babies. but it is painfully obvious we are getting shafted with calls.

last night's game is even worse than it looks based on stats. there was a blatant attempt by the refs to balance the number of fouls in the second half when it was 7-2, or around there, by them calling ticky tack, inconsequential, non shooting fouls on providence.
I agree I have family who officiate and understand the human element and try to be fair but this is egregious...I mean BOTH games UConn outscored PC and Xavier on the floor and essentially lost due to a one sided FT shooting contest. Ive watched 30 years of UConn basketball as well as nationally....to lose when you outscore the other opponent is RARE and usually its by a point or two either way. To lose when you outscore an opponent by 7? 9? Points AND lose by 10+ ...Id venture to say maybe 2% of the games EVER. Thats insanely rare. So unless these refs are "cooking" the games, which after Tim Donaghy, anything is possible especially with the nature and ease of gambling in our society currently, they have some issues with Hurley and are taking it out on UConn. Its clear to anyone watching.
 
We shot 4 free throws against Butler but won so the refs weren't the problem. We got out free throwed(new word) against LIU but won so no inquiry. Look at the free throw differential in the Oregon and Florida games. Through 16 games we have shot less free throws in eight of them. Two of the cupcake teams shot more. Our starting center has excellent post moves but shies away from contact. Karaban is a full year away from being a player that will try to initiate contact. Hawk is decent but still 10 pounds away from trying to draw contact on a consistent basis. Newton doesn't seem like he is interested in doing it. Andre doesn't have the offensive game for it. Not the game of Calc, Neheem or Diarra. Clingan played 20 minutes and shot 8 free throws which feels about right. We had a lot of wide open, run and gun games early which is what we want. The Big East is a different story. It's not the refs. We still have a very good team but drawing fouls is not our strength.


Dont tell that to Q-Afoul. There is a conspiracy dammit and we have to get to the bottom of it!
 
The refs weren’t anticipating calls. When a team takes the ball to the hole - especially when they do it on fast breaks - and they do it before the defense can get their feet set, they tend to get the calls no matter who the refs are. Seeing that this was working for PC, Hurley could have done the same thing. But he didn’t.

You have convinced me. I am going to be a Providence fan like you.
 
Dont tell that to Q-Afoul. There is a conspiracy dammit and we have to get to the bottom of it!

For you to be right, UConn must have forgotten how to play defense after beating Oregon, Alabama, Iowa State, Oklahoma State and Florida. How does a team forget how to play defense?

UConn somehow ran that gauntlet with easy wins, but can't slow down freaking Providence without fouling?

Logic is not a strong suit of this board.
 
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But Boneyard martyrs said that it wasn't the refs.
Well that’s one of the craziest stats I’ve ever seen put up on the boneyard - so either newton, Diarra hawk , Ajax and Joey c are the worst penetrating guards for a highly ranked team in the last decade -or the refs hate us. If true ,that’s nuts
 
For you to be right, UConn must have forgotten how to play defense after beating Oregon, Alabama, Iowa State, Oklahoma State and Florida. How does a team forget how to play defense?

UConn somehow ran that gauntlet with easy wins, but can't slow down freaking Providence without fouling?

Logic is not a strong suit of this board.
They’re in a slump. It happens. Xavier annihilated us on defense. Danny’s teams always foul a lot. The offense was working a lot better early in the season. There are other answers to just “Wahh it’s the refs fault wahhh”.
 
For you to be right, UConn must have forgotten how to play defense after beating Oregon, Alabama, Iowa State, Oklahoma State and Florida. How does a team forget how to play defense?

UConn somehow ran that gauntlet with easy wins, but can't slow down freaking Providence without fouling?

Logic is not a strong suit of this board.
Agreed Logic isn't strong with some on this board. People point to certain game and say "see you can win with big foul discrepancies" the reality is YOU CAN. But take a look -either you have to shoot the absolute lights out 50%+ each game which what team can do THAT every game? Not many....and or the OTHER team just has to shoot so poorly (Butler) for you to overcome it.

The issue I see with specifically the last 2 games is that when ALL else is EQUAL, UConn has to overcome the refs bias to win. THAT right there IS the issue. I would be fine if PC smoked us and shot insane from the field, they didn't. I would be also fine if Xavier did the same, they also didn't. This is where the problem lies. Both games played close to even were decided on the foul line with ONE team getting decidedly preferential treatment. Its super clear.

Think about this....Even IF UConn shot a perfect 100% from the line against PC they would have still lost. That's a problem people. Both teams shot 36%, PC made 3 more 3pt shots. UConn outscored them on the floor and even if they shot 100% from the foul line they still would lose. That's nuts and quite frankly should not even be able to happen in ANY CBB game anywhere.
 
They’re in a slump. It happens. Xavier annihilated us on defense. Danny’s teams always foul a lot. The offense was working a lot better early in the season. There are other answers to just “Wahh it’s the refs fault wahhh”.

You think Providence is much better than all 5 of those teams. Got it.
 
You think Providence is much better than all 5 of those teams. Got it.
You’re actually insufferable lol. You have a one track mind and anything that challenges your OPINION is wrong. Get over yourself, not a good look.
 
Agreed Logic isn't strong with some on this board. People point to certain game and say "see you can win with big foul discrepancies" the reality is YOU CAN. But take a look -either you have to shoot the absolute lights out 50%+ each game which what team can do THAT every game? Not many....and or the OTHER team just has to shoot so poorly (Butler) for you to overcome it.

The issue I see with specifically the last 2 games is that when ALL else is EQUAL, UConn has to overcome the refs bias to win. THAT right there IS the issue. I would be fine if PC smoked us and shot insane from the field, they didn't. I would be also fine if Xavier did the same, they also didn't. This is where the problem lies. Both games played close to even were decided on the foul line with ONE team getting decidedly preferential treatment. Its super clear.

Think about this....Even IF UConn shot a perfect 100% from the line against PC they would have still lost. That's a problem people. Both teams shot 36%, PC made 3 more 3pt shots. UConn outscored them on the floor and even if they shot 100% from the foul line they still would lose. That's nuts and quite frankly should not even be able to happen in ANY CBB game anywhere.
All else was not equal is the whole thing. We got outplayed both games.
 
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