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cancontent said:
In a previous post I noted I don't think she could have been because it happened during a dead ball situation.

Was what she did enough to be considered a flagrant 2? That's the only scenario that would have had her ejected immediately. If anything she would have received a technical.

As no one was assessed a technical earlier when the first shoving situation happened, it wouldn't have been enough for an ejection at that point as two technicals are required for an ejection.

I'm still of the opinion that had the referees done their job in the first half, a lot of this mess could have been avoided.
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Nope. Players can be ejected at any point (even after the game). Live ball, dead ball has nothing to do with it.
 
Bigboote said:
The first push by Mabrey was after Clark had pushed Sheldon in the chest.



During the first half when it started getting chippy, Antonelli said she was glad the officials didn't call any T's. I've been thinking that if they had at least issued warnings after Sheldon/Mabrey/Clark first got into it and whistled the first extra-curricular activity after that, they might have been able to avoid this.
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Many years ago in the NBA Mendy Rudolph would always take control of a game early if they got too physical. One quick warning then a technical . Players got his point very fast, and they always got back to playing basketball.
 
YKCornelius said:
Nope. Players can be ejected at any point (even after the game). Live ball, dead ball has nothing to do with it.
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Correct.
Official Ashley Gloss said in the pool report after the game that the contact made by Mabrey did not rise to the level of ejection or meet the criteria for a flagrant 2.
 
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baggerbob said:
Many years ago in the NBA Mendy Rudolph would always take control of a game early if they got too physical. One quick warning then a technical . Players got his point very fast, and they always got back to playing basketball.
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Speaking of the good ol’ days — did the play by Cunningham on Sheldon toward the end of the game give anyone flashbacks of (IIRC) McHale clotheslining Rambis in the Celts-Lakers series many years ago?
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
Correct.
Official Ashley Gloss said in the pool report after the game that the contact made by Mabrey did not rise to the level of ejection or meet the criteria for a flagrant 2.
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Thanks for posting it. At least I was partially correct per the referee's perspective. The foul has been upgraded since last night.
 
I was impressed with Minnesota yesterday. Phee did not have her all-star, League MVP type game yesterday against Las Vegas but other Lynx players stepped up and played well. Courtney Williams and her mid-range game is lethal! Diamond Miller had her best game as member of the Lynx. She looked amazing out there. I think Diamond needed a game like this for her confidence. Alanna Smith looked great as well. Way to go, Minnesota!! As for Las Vegas. Wow.
 
cancontent said:
By what standard? The number of times I see posts like this on the board, it makes me shake my head.

The same was being said about Hillmon when she was drafted by the Dream. Some thought Amihere being drafted in 2023 was a sign she was going to get cut. Who's still in Atlanta?

If she does get waived, it doesn't mean she's not fit for the W. It may be a situation that Connecticut wasn't the right fit for her. Bridget Carleton is a great example of that as she was a 2nd round pick who got waived and is now a key cog in Minnesota. That took time as well as she had to work her tail off to earn her starter's role.
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Anyone who has eyes can see she is outmatched and unprepared.

Her skillset is not good enough in this league. She is 6 foot, so not good enough to play the 4. She isn’t a 3 either because she has zero ball handling skills and her perimeter game and defense declined significantly since she left DePaul for LSU. If she wanted to better herself she was better off going to USC or SC.

She’ll be out the league within couple years
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Apparently sales for Sophie Cunningham jerseys are blowing up after last night's action.
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Sigh. Had a feeling that would happen based on how the fans celebrated her when she fouled Sheldon. For as much as we read and hear complaints about the game being too physical, the fan reaction at the game seems to indicate otherwise.
 
cancontent said:
Sigh. Had a feeling that would happen based on how the fans celebrated her when she fouled Sheldon. For as much as we read and hear complaints about the game being too physical, the fan reaction at the game seems to indicate otherwise.
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I think the reaction is "finally someone is giving it back to the other team after the way they've been going after Clark since she entered the league." That's my read.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I think the reaction is "finally someone is giving it back to the other team after the way they've been going after Clark since she entered the league." That's my read.
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Either way, it still being celebrated by a subset of the WNBA fanbase. It doesn't matter if it's Clark or someone else, it's a mob mentality that contradicts the media talking heads saying fans don't want this in the game. If they can make it an exception because it's Clark, what's to stop them from explaining it away when the next generational talent goes pro?

It's a slipper slope to me and the WNBA needs to do something about the refereeing situation. I don't have an issue with physicality as most BYers know I prefer FIBA interpretations more than NCAAW. My bone of contention has been the lack of consistency because that's what leads to these problems. The focus of emphasis on "freedom of movement" this season, which should have addressed this, seems to be just talk sadly. :(
 
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cancontent said:
Either way, it still being celebrated by a subset of the WNBA fanbase. It doesn't matter if it's Clark or someone else, it's a mob mentality that contradicts the media talking heads saying fans don't want this in the game. If they can make it an exception because it's Clark, what's to stop them from explaining it away when the next generational talent goes pro?

It's a slipper slope to me and the WNBA needs to do something about the refereeing situation. I don't have an issue with physicality as most BYers know I prefer FIBA interpretations more than NCAAW. My bone of contention has been the lack of consistency because that's what leads to these problems. The focus of emphasis on "freedom of movement" this season, which should have addressed this, seems to be just talk sadly. :(
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The league has consistently shown an inability to make necessary changes/adjustments. I have zero confidence in league management.
 
Bigboote said:
The first push by Mabrey was after Clark had pushed Sheldon in the chest.



During the first half when it started getting chippy, Antonelli said she was glad the officials didn't call any T's. I've been thinking that if they had at least issued warnings after Sheldon/Mabrey/Clark first got into it and whistled the first extra-curricular activity after that, they might have been able to avoid this.
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Clark pushed Sheldon after being poked in the eye and being bellied up (Jacy followed up the poke by rushing up to Clark and pushing her with her belly.) l believe I would have pushed back too. She can’t let these girls intimidate her! The refs are simply atrocious beyond belief! Mabry should have been ejected. I really think there’s a strong likelihood that Clark will not make it through this season if something is not done. It’s not just Clark either, though I think she gets it from way more people. The physicality is just way out of hand and is imo spoiling the game.
 
People are saying that Clark flopped but I saw a view that showed that she was tripped by Charles, I think accidentally when Mabry pushed her. She was facing away and when Mabry shoved her, her foot caught on Tina’s foot and down she went.
 
cancontent said:
Either way, it still being celebrated by a subset of the WNBA fanbase. It doesn't matter if it's Clark or someone else, it's a mob mentality that contradicts the media talking heads saying fans don't want this in the game. If they can make it an exception because it's Clark, what's to stop them from explaining it away when the next generational talent goes pro?

It's a slipper slope to me and the WNBA needs to do something about the refereeing situation. I don't have an issue with physicality as most BYers know I prefer FIBA interpretations more than NCAAW. My bone of contention has been the lack of consistency because that's what leads to these problems. The focus of emphasis on "freedom of movement" this season, which should have addressed this, seems to be just talk sadly. :(
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Look Stewie used to get hammered nightly her first 2 years in the league. Especially when she played Minnesota so this isn't knew it's just more people are watching now.
B ut if the league doesn't clean it up by the end of the year they will lose a lot of the new fans.
 
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baggerbob said:
Look Stewie used to get hammered nightly her first 2 years in the league. Especially when she played Minnesota so this isn't knew it's just more people are watching now.
B ut if the league doesn't clean it up by the end of the year they will lose a lot of the new fans.
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I’m gonna disagree with the last sentence. The new fans are just CC fans and as long as she’s in the league they aren’t going anywhere.
 
Geew1992 said:
I’m gonna disagree with the last sentence. The new fans are just CC fans and as long as she’s in the league they aren’t going anywhere.
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There are new fans coming because of Reese, Citron, Bueckers, Iriafen, etc., as well. Clark may have the lionshare of the numbers, but to assume she's the only one bringing in new fans is short changing the impact a lot of these new players have in the league.
 
GamecockFam said:
Phoenix is such a hard team for my brain to rationalize as a 'good' team. They don't pass the eye test, yet they win games. They look like a bottom 5 team but have the record of a top 5 team. :confused:
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This is how I see them as well. The schedule was kind to them early on, which is messing with people's brains. I think we'll see the real Phoenix towards late July/early August (when those undrafted rookies start to break down/tire out).
 
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