There is just nothing “collegiate” about how this kid feels. There is no school growing up, no desire to win, no being part of a team or program. It’s as stepping stone as I have felt with a top recruit. So sure his dad is transparent, but it doesn’t even feel like they care other than $$. Seems like the kind of kid better suited for the Ron Holland route.in a way dybantsa's dad being completely honest about the NIL priority saves a lot of time investment for a lot of programs. prob better than the stringing along approach.
Went to a school that was heavily pre-med. a lot of those kids never saw the light of day, no fb games, frat parties, p/t jobs, hanging out and listening to records, chasing girls/boys etcThere is just nothing “collegiate” about how this kid feels. There is no school growing up, no desire to win, no being part of a team or program. It’s as stepping stone as I have felt with a top recruit. So sure his dad is transparent, but it doesn’t even feel like they give an f other than $$. Seems like the kind of kid better suited for the Ron Holland route.
Went to a school that was heavily pre-med. a lot of those kids never saw the light of day, no fb games, frat parties, p/t jobs, hanging out and listening to records, chasing girls/boys etc
They were very focused. Is that different than Dybsanta?
I am going to sound emotional and self Serving. But I would have wanted Thomas to commit by now. Money talks and bull—- walks. If you are about culture and winning and improving, there is one option for you. Make your decision. The more time passes the more I am rooting for Lewis to be a Husky.
saying that a kid is a bag-chaser is an objectively true statement if what Trilly has said is true. Now I know the dad is kind of a weirdo and wants to do everything in the recruitment, so I guess that could be it. Honestly a lot of the bag-chasers that really don't care about winning aren't bad kids, but as basketball players, they are more focused on money than improving their game or winning. On the other hand, if it is all the dad, than obviously it isn't the kid's fault. I would actually feel a bit of empathy. it seems weird that he isn't allowed to do anything in the recruitment.The character assassinations of kids and their families that don't go to UConn are beyond corny and lame now, it's kinda wild that some of y'all are actually adults talking like this.
There is just nothing “collegiate” about how this kid feels. There is no school growing up, no desire to win, no being part of a team or program. It’s as stepping stone as I have felt with a top recruit. So sure his dad is transparent, but it doesn’t even feel like they give an f other than $$. Seems like the kind of kid better suited for the Ron Holland route.
Some kids actually are just that good though that they can do that. There’s been a few situations where a kid went to a school like Oklahoma State or LSU and did just fine.saying that a kid is a bag-chaser is an objectively true statement if what Trilly has said is true. Now I know the dad is kind of a weirdo and wants to do everything in the recruitment, so I guess that could be it. Honestly a lot of the bag-chasers that really don't care about winning aren't bad kids, but as basketball players, they are more focused on money than improving their game or winning. On the other hand, if it is all the dad, than obviously it isn't the kid's fault. I would actually feel a bit of empathy. it seems weird that he isn't allowed to do anything in the recruitment.
Wondering where we are with Aristode? Have not heard his name brought up among BY'ers in a while.
May be that good but not sure any one freshman can be that valuable to a teams success. These kids at 18 all have limitations when going up against men in their first year. We shall see with Flagg this year.Some kids actually are just that good though that they can do that. There’s been a few situations where a kid went to a school like Oklahoma State or LSU and did just fine.
In some cases they may do themselves a favor by doing so if a coach can’t mesh them correctly with a team ala Cam Reddish.
You’re looking at it from a team point of view.May be that good but not sure any one freshman can be that valuable to a teams success. These kids at 18 all have limitations when going up against men in their first year. We shall see with Flagg this year.
AJ is probably a great kid. His recruitment has just felt entirely transactional without a shred of soul in it. His apparent top choice is due to NIL and the coach having just come from being an NBA assistant.
I get this but when you are associating yourself with a college program, that has fans, alumni and pride, you can strike a balance in the approach. It’s bigger than the individual and that recognition is part of good character.You’re looking at it from a team point of view.
When looking at it from the kids point of view and doing what is best for them and there family. Winning a knockout tournament in one year probably isn’t going to be that high on the list.
Especially when they have much better odds of taking care of their families now in college, while also still looking at the best long term option of the NBA and making more money there. That’s most kids ultimate goal. Justifiably.
I think this is a reasonable viewpoint for multi year players and college football players. Not one and done super recruits.I get this but when you are associating yourself with a college program, that has fans, alumni and pride, you can strike a balance in the approach. It’s bigger than the individual and that recognition is part of good character.
Who is going to walk away feeling like they have an actual relationship with a university that they can always lean on, Stephon or Isiah Collier?
Maybe I’m asking for too much here, but like DH, would like to see a kid that has a little bit invested in helping a program in some meaningful way, versus just helping themself.
If the conversation is Stephon Castle vs Isaiah Collier that's a completely different conversation than AJ Dybantsa. If the NBA didn't have their stupid rule he wouldn't even have to go through this charade.I get this but when you are associating yourself with a college program, that has fans, alumni and pride, you can strike a balance in the approach. It’s bigger than the individual and that recognition is part of good character.
Who is going to walk away feeling like they have an actual relationship with a university that they can always lean on, Stephon or Isiah Collier?
Maybe I’m asking for too much here, but like DH, would like to see a kid that has a little bit invested in helping a program in some meaningful way, versus just helping themself.
And even harder to ROOT forTrilly on his discord says Dysbantsas choice will be to the highest bidder, and why BYU and KSt are in it. Apparently he heard KSt has mega type donors willing to write checks and it’s why they appear on so many top recruit lists (they paid Coleman Hawkins 2mm).
Interesting intel because now fairly obvious why Hurley tapped out with Dysbantsa. Beyond the dad being odd and controlling, college is 100% just a bag to the NBA for that kid. Thomas also has KSt on his short list, which is an indicator that NIL is a major driver (despite playing KSt off as an all diverse coaching staff). I mean what top recruit goes to Manhattan, KS for any other reason than NIL? Even though he went Dukes way, Cooper handled his recruitment is such a more authentic way than AJ, who is a one year cash mercenary - hard to route for.
NIL should be important but if it’s clear that it’s far and away the most important and you’re willing to go to a second rate program for it, Godspeed.
Winning a knockout tournament?.... It's more than a knockout tournament. Its the pinnacle of the sport, that greatly greatly enhances the value of the players that succeed in it. From the viewpoint of the kids they should want that.You’re looking at it from a team point of view.
When looking at it from the kids point of view and doing what is best for them and there family. Winning a knockout tournament in one year probably isn’t going to be that high on the list.
Especially when they have much better odds of taking care of their families now in college, while also still looking at the best long term option of the NBA and making more money there. That’s most kids ultimate goal. Justifiably.
I love the tournament, but succeeding in there is not the end all be all from a strictly long term vantage point. It’s a luxury more than anything. Kevin Durant didn’t even make it out the round of 32. Reed and Dillingham both just went top 10 (non top 10 recruits by the way) after getting upset in the 1st round.Winning a knockout tournament?.... It's more than a knockout tournament. Its the pinnacle of the sport, that greatly greatly enhances the value of the players that succeed in it. From the viewpoint of the kids they should want that.