There is just nothing “collegiate” about how this kid feels. There is no school growing up, no desire to win, no being part of a team or program. It’s as stepping stone as I have felt with a top recruit. So sure his dad is transparent, but it doesn’t even feel like they give an f other than $$. Seems like the kind of kid better suited for the Ron Holland route.
Some kids actually are just that good though that they can do that. There’s been a few situations where a kid went to a school like Oklahoma State or LSU and did just fine.saying that a kid is a bag-chaser is an objectively true statement if what Trilly has said is true. Now I know the dad is kind of a weirdo and wants to do everything in the recruitment, so I guess that could be it. Honestly a lot of the bag-chasers that really don't care about winning aren't bad kids, but as basketball players, they are more focused on money than improving their game or winning. On the other hand, if it is all the dad, than obviously it isn't the kid's fault. I would actually feel a bit of empathy. it seems weird that he isn't allowed to do anything in the recruitment.
Wondering where we are with Aristode? Have not heard his name brought up among BY'ers in a while.
May be that good but not sure any one freshman can be that valuable to a teams success. These kids at 18 all have limitations when going up against men in their first year. We shall see with Flagg this year.Some kids actually are just that good though that they can do that. There’s been a few situations where a kid went to a school like Oklahoma State or LSU and did just fine.
In some cases they may do themselves a favor by doing so if a coach can’t mesh them correctly with a team ala Cam Reddish.
You’re looking at it from a team point of view.May be that good but not sure any one freshman can be that valuable to a teams success. These kids at 18 all have limitations when going up against men in their first year. We shall see with Flagg this year.
AJ is probably a great kid. His recruitment has just felt entirely transactional without a shred of soul in it. His apparent top choice is due to NIL and the coach having just come from being an NBA assistant.
I get this but when you are associating yourself with a college program, that has fans, alumni and pride, you can strike a balance in the approach. It’s bigger than the individual and that recognition is part of good character.You’re looking at it from a team point of view.
When looking at it from the kids point of view and doing what is best for them and there family. Winning a knockout tournament in one year probably isn’t going to be that high on the list.
Especially when they have much better odds of taking care of their families now in college, while also still looking at the best long term option of the NBA and making more money there. That’s most kids ultimate goal. Justifiably.
I think this is a reasonable viewpoint for multi year players and college football players. Not one and done super recruits.I get this but when you are associating yourself with a college program, that has fans, alumni and pride, you can strike a balance in the approach. It’s bigger than the individual and that recognition is part of good character.
Who is going to walk away feeling like they have an actual relationship with a university that they can always lean on, Stephon or Isiah Collier?
Maybe I’m asking for too much here, but like Dan Hurley, would like to see a kid that has a little bit invested in helping a program in some meaningful way, versus just helping themself.
If the conversation is Stephon Castle vs Isaiah Collier that's a completely different conversation than AJ Dybantsa. If the NBA didn't have their stupid rule he wouldn't even have to go through this charade.I get this but when you are associating yourself with a college program, that has fans, alumni and pride, you can strike a balance in the approach. It’s bigger than the individual and that recognition is part of good character.
Who is going to walk away feeling like they have an actual relationship with a university that they can always lean on, Stephon or Isiah Collier?
Maybe I’m asking for too much here, but like Dan Hurley, would like to see a kid that has a little bit invested in helping a program in some meaningful way, versus just helping themself.
And even harder to ROOT forTrilly on his discord says Dysbantsas choice will be to the highest bidder, and why BYU and KSt are in it. Apparently he heard KSt has mega type donors willing to write checks and it’s why they appear on so many top recruit lists (they paid Coleman Hawkins 2mm).
Interesting intel because now fairly obvious why Hurley tapped out with Dysbantsa. Beyond the dad being odd and controlling, college is 100% just a bag to the NBA for that kid. Thomas also has KSt on his short list, which is an indicator that NIL is a major driver (despite playing KSt off as an all diverse coaching staff). I mean what top recruit goes to Manhattan, KS for any other reason than NIL? Even though he went Dukes way, Cooper handled his recruitment is such a more authentic way than AJ, who is a one year cash mercenary - hard to route for.
NIL should be important but if it’s clear that it’s far and away the most important and you’re willing to go to a second rate program for it, Godspeed.
Winning a knockout tournament?.... It's more than a knockout tournament. Its the pinnacle of the sport, that greatly greatly enhances the value of the players that succeed in it. From the viewpoint of the kids they should want that.You’re looking at it from a team point of view.
When looking at it from the kids point of view and doing what is best for them and there family. Winning a knockout tournament in one year probably isn’t going to be that high on the list.
Especially when they have much better odds of taking care of their families now in college, while also still looking at the best long term option of the NBA and making more money there. That’s most kids ultimate goal. Justifiably.
I love the tournament, but succeeding in there is not the end all be all from a strictly long term vantage point. It’s a luxury more than anything. Kevin Durant didn’t even make it out the round of 32. Reed and Dillingham both just went top 10 (non top 10 recruits by the way) after getting upset in the 1st round.Winning a knockout tournament?.... It's more than a knockout tournament. Its the pinnacle of the sport, that greatly greatly enhances the value of the players that succeed in it. From the viewpoint of the kids they should want that.
Ummm Meleek Thomas?
Because he wrote "self Serving" instead of "self-serving," my agreement tops out shy of 100%, but I substantially agree with you.Agree 100% with the first sentence.
It's like you don't know us at all.The character assassinations of kids and their families that don't go to UConn are beyond corny and lame now, it's kinda wild that some of y'all are actually adults talking like this.
...and guess what, it's corny and lame on those sites too.It's like you don't know us at all.
(For what it's worth, this is a phenomenon that can be found on every college fan site.)
Yep, but inevitable....and guess what, it's corny and lame on those sites too.
Who is going to walk away feeling like they have an actual relationship with a university that they can always lean on, Stephon or Isiah Collier?
Well bless his heartIt sounds like Ace Dybantsa is screening based on NIL, and then with a final 8 or whatever it is he'll let AJ evaluate the schools and pick his favorite. He was quoted in one of the posts here as saying if AJ's favorite school offered $8 million NIL and another offered $10 million NIL, they'd go with AJ's favorite for $8 million. Based on that, AJ hasn't had a say yet, and AJ may care about non-financial considerations.
Why should he not do this? He is forced to spend an extra year due to the NBA rule. All one and dones are not in college to learn. In fact most do not attend class.Well bless his heart
Yeah, I started its own thread because it's such a hot topic lately. $5 million? Any guesses who that is?Also an interesting NIL article out by the CBS team:
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Candid Coaches: What is the most amount of NIL money someone has asked you or your staff to pay for a player?
We asked college basketball coaches how much NIL money they are being asked to arrange to sign top recruitswww.cbssports.com
Look no further than our guy AJ. I can’t think of another player that can command that without ensuring laughter.Yeah, I started its own thread because it's such a hot topic lately. $5 million? Any guesses who that is?
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Candid Coaches: How much NIL money are recruits asking for?
Figured this deserved its own thread since it's been a pretty big topic recently. Most of the coaches agreed that what everyone is hearing about NIL packages is exaggerated but since the kids and their families hear these figures they then ask for the moon. So there's a lot of negotiating for...www.the-boneyard.com