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The guy drafted #34 last year (Jaylin Williams on Thunder) signed a 4-year $8 million deal with the last 2 years non-guaranteed (so $4 mil guaranteed).

A similar deal probably gets Andre into the draft. We'll see.

#30 last in the first round is a really similar contract ($4.5 mil guaranteed over first 2, then years 3 and 4 are team option, with the 4th year being almost double the previous 3 in $). But 2nd round doesn't have the restricted free agency, so a player might actually prefer going early 2nd round.
 
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Unless things have changed, being a second round pick (where the is no requirement to guarantee a contract) will have a good amount of dependence on the team's cap situation. A team over the cap (again, unless things have changed) will have less flexibility, even with 'bargain level' free agents if there is an extra couple million locked onto a guaranteed second round pick.

Once the first round ends things can get dicey in terms of what type of guarantee a player can expect to receive.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Unless things have changed, being a second round pick (where the is no requirement to guarantee a contract) will have a good amount of dependence on the team's cap situation. A team over the cap (again, unless things have changed) will have less flexibility, even with 'bargain level' free agents if there is an extra couple million locked onto a guaranteed second round pick.

Once the first round ends things can get dicey in terms of what type of guarantee a player can expect to receive.
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This changed with the new CBA, 2nd round picks are now treated the same as 1st round picks and you get a salary cap exception to sign the player
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
If he’s 4th pick in the 2nd without the combine drills and measurements, the late 1st is more than feasible.
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I doubt that Andre's combine results will impact his draft status at all. Every GM in the league knows just how much of a freak athlete he is.

He'll get into the late first if he shows some shooting promise in workouts.
 
navery12 said:
This changed with the new CBA, 2nd round picks are now treated the same as 1st round picks and you get a salary cap exception to sign the player
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You (and other nerds) knowledge of this stuff is amazing. I know absolutely nothing about the behind-the-scenes of basketball, and I wouldn't even know where to start if I DID want to know.
 
husky429 said:
I doubt that Andre's combine results will impact his draft status at all. Every GM in the league knows just how much of a freak athlete he is.

He'll get into the late first if he shows some shooting promise in workouts.
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I was thinking more the agility drills and team play. I think he’ll shine in the fast pace scrimmages.
 
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husky429 said:
You (and other nerds) knowledge of this stuff is amazing. I know absolutely nothing about the behind-the-scenes of basketball, and I wouldn't even know where to start if I DID want to know.
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I wish there was more useful stuff taking up all the space in my brain, but instead it's filled with useless sports trivia and stats/rules
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
I was thinking more the agility drills and team play. I think he’ll shine in the fast pace scrimmages.
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The reason why I don't think either of those will really help him is because people are already expecting him to obliterate the agility drills, and to be a connector in team play. The way he moves up this draft is showing folks that he can be an asset despite no discernable NBA scoring skill.
 
From Rookie Wire - USA Today. Combine runs May 16-18.

The list of players reportedly invited to compete in the draft combine as of May 1st:
  1. Mouhamed Gueye, Washington State | Source
  2. Coleman Hawkins, Illinois | Source
  3. Andre Jackson Jr., UConn | Source
  4. Bobi Klintman, Wake Forest | Source
  5. Seth Lundy, Penn State | Source
  6. Omari Moore, San Jose State | Source
  7. Grant Nelson, North Dakota State | Source
  8. Jalen Pickett, Penn State | Source
  9. Brandin Podziemski, Santa Clara | Source
  10. Adama Sanogo, UConn | Source
  11. Ben Sheppard, Belmont | Source
The list of players reportedly invited to compete in the G League Elite Camp:
  1. Charles Bediako, Alabama | Source
 
SoFla Steve said:
From Rookie Wire - USA Today. Combine runs May 16-18.

The list of players reportedly invited to compete in the draft combine as of May 1st:
  1. Mouhamed Gueye, Washington State | Source
  2. Coleman Hawkins, Illinois | Source
  3. Andre Jackson Jr., UConn | Source
  4. Bobi Klintman, Wake Forest | Source
  5. Seth Lundy, Penn State | Source
  6. Omari Moore, San Jose State | Source
  7. Grant Nelson, North Dakota State | Source
  8. Jalen Pickett, Penn State | Source
  9. Brandin Podziemski, Santa Clara | Source
  10. Adama Sanogo, UConn | Source
  11. Ben Sheppard, Belmont | Source
The list of players reportedly invited to compete in the G League Elite Camp:
  1. Charles Bediako, Alabama | Source
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I know we are all about Andre here, but Sanogo is the guy who has a real opportunity to open some eyes and flash some NBA power forward skills. Guarding in space, shooting, ball handling, passing. I think he'll surprise people.

Andre is dependent upon a team seeing something and thinking they can use what he does. If he's projected from late 1st to early 2nd I think he needs to stay in the draft.
 
Ratso said:
i agree that AJ is draymond, as disruptive but 10000x athletic
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NOPE
more athletic yes, now for sure
young Draymond had a scoring game and his D was flawless
AJax is not Draymond and Draymond is not AJax
 
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There are hundreds of guys that would be good enough to play in the NBA if they are in the right situation. Cody Zeller is getting serious playoff minutes right now. I didn't think he was still in the NBA. There are other very good players throughout the world that had a few years in the league and then didn't get re-signed who are all good enough. It seems like if you are out for a year its very very hard to get back in. Shabazz didn't get picked up by a team a couple years ago and because of that he will probably never make it back in. 15 years ago, even if he wasn't in the rotation, he would be on a roster like Ollie was. But GM's seem to value taking chances on younger kids at the end of their benches instead of veteran/mentor type guys.
 
auror said:
Looney is 6'8 without shoes and 7'3" wingspan. Curious to see how Sanogo lines up with that.
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I expect about the same. He's also probably 20-30lbs lighter than Sanogo, and I'm guessing has much better measurables for athleticism
 
husky429 said:
You (and other nerds) knowledge of this stuff is amazing. I know absolutely nothing about the behind-the-scenes of basketball, and I wouldn't even know where to start if I DID want to know.
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Wait -- you're on the internet and wouldn't know where to start to look up a fact?
 
businesslawyer said:
Wait -- you're on the internet and wouldn't know where to start to look up a fact?
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Best bet is either the new AI, ChatNBA, or TikTok, not sure which. But my approach would be to try Boneyard search, find a pizza thread, and then give up.
 
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Hawkins comes in at 12 and Andre at 32 in this USA Today Mock.

It felt like he was probably the most fouled three point shooter in cbb watching, but happy to see a stat that confirms it.

“UConn’s Jordan Hawkins is a movement shooter perfect for the NBA.

The All-Big East guard leads all players in points scored on handoffs and off-ball screens during the NCAA men’s tournament, per Synergy. But this isn’t just a stellar run for the UConn star during March Madness. He has done this all season.

The NCAA champion drew a ton of contact and led Division I with 23 fouls drawn on 3-pointers, per CBB Analytics. Even if defenders got a hand in his face, Hawkins still managed to shoot 38-for-93 (40.6 percent) on contested 3-pointers, per AI-Powered statistics provided by Stats Perform.”
 
husky429 said:
I expect about the same. He's also probably 20-30lbs lighter than Sanogo, and I'm guessing has much better measurables for athleticism
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Sanogo is 6’9 with shoes, 245 Ibs and 7’1 wingspan. Pretty close.
 
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